I wonder if it would be possible to flood the tube sites with such horribly shot porn that people get fed up and pay? It it possible? Like stop the footage at the best shot, put a lot of boring solo stuff on there, repeat the same footage,cut the sound, or is there just too much of it to matter?
Go look at some of those sites, they are already flooded with crappy porn, but it doesn't seem to stop people from going there. Jacco
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Zaer Deactivated User
249 Posts 10/07
Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 1:10AM
The RIAA thought a number of years ago that it might work to discourage users of p2p technology to flood those networks with poor quality recordings of singles. It didn't. Edited by - Zaer on 2/15/2010 1:11:19 AM
Unfortunately... tube sites are here to stay (at least for a good while). The majority of them are moderated so all your attempts to upload crappy porn will be for nothing. Tubes, along with many other ways for fans to get their porn for free are making this industry slowly die (in it's current form). Whoever thought, "Hey... let's give away all this porn and then we'll sell it" is a real idiot. I'd like to punch them square in the nuts. - Swirlie CEO Porn with Swirlie
My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06
Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 1:33PM
How are tube sites able to pay for the resources that are used? Such things as web site registration, servers, file storage, etc. Not to mention people that do the programming, moderators. All these bells and whistles needed to provide tube site services. Who pays and how?
There are a couple different types of tube sites... those considered "illegal tubes" and "legal tubes". Illegal tubes are the ones you hear about most. I won't name URL's, but you know the ones. They have full length stolen 15-45 minute scenes on there. The legal ones usually have much shorter videos, like samples ranging from 3-5 minutes. The biggest difference is the legal ones were granted permission to use all the content on the tube. Anyway... a lot of people running legal tubes use content called "hosted content" which means the website it's promoting flips the bandwidth bill. Not all legal tubes use hosted content, some host their own. The bigger "illegal tubes" just steal scenes and add them to their tubes. However, the cost of web servers and hosting these days are pretty low so it's not as bad as you would think. How do they make money? Ad revenues by selling things such as cam site and dating sites. They also can sell traffic to other sites (meaning visitors who visit the advertised site from the tube). Bottom line is this... if you have a lot of website traffic, there's always going to be someone out there willing to pay for it. The value of it is the variable, though. Anyway... running a tube site can run anywhere from $20 a month to $20,000 a month (or more) depending on MANY different things. The big illegal tube sites are run by larger companies (on the down low, though). Hopefully that explains a little. I know how the shit works, but I'm not always good at describing it. - Swirlie CEO Porn with Swirlie
My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06
Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 9:20PM
So, if I understand this 'cost' issue either advertisers are paying the costs or it's a loss leader for another site, which is recovering cost through advertisers. Isn't just a matter of time before most of these tube sites prove to be ineffective as 'billboards' for advertisers and the advertisers stop paying?It's difficult for me to image that anything can be run for $20/month, if you count all the costs, particularly the cost of the person(s) that do routine maintenance. It costs me more than that each month to flush my toilet. Anyway, nothing is FREE. It's just a matter of who is paying for it. In the case of web sites, the bottom line seems to be advertisers (or hobbyists). It's difficult for me to image that advertisers will continue to 'pay for' tube sites that don't 'pay off' as advertising platforms.
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Master D Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 9:35PM
Even know most porn movies cost around $30.00 to $35.00 but you get what you pay for. But I don't even used the free porn sites but I will used web based sites like Bang Bros and BlacksonBlondes which I do used.
Robert... yes, you are correct. The cost of running these sites is paid for by advertisers buying prime real estate or it is a loss leader for another one of their projects. You have to remember, whoever has the most traffic online has the most power. Here's something to think about... notice you don't see full length scenes shot by Brazzers on most of the big tubes? You do see samples, though... ever wonder why? However, on those same sites... you see full length videos from all sorts of other studios. The reason is simple... you can't sell what you're giving away for free. Brazzers owns some of the largest tube sites, but you won't find full their full length videos on any of them. Anyway, when I said $20 a month for a tube, you have to understand that that is for the most basic tube site there is. Think about it... all you need is a small virtual host for $20 a month and use sponsor hosted movie samples. That means the sponsors or affiliate programs are flipping the bill for the actual video bandwidth since it's hosted on their servers and not yours. However, porn surfers are smart and they want the full length stuff... so you have to go to the illegal tubes for that. Oh, and you mention the "routine" of running a tube. If you go the sponsor hosted video route, the other sites do all the work. You just add a bit of code and it automatically updates. I wish that tubes with full length videos would die out... but I'm a realist. They won't. They're here to stay. The only thing that would change it is global policing of hardcore material on the net, and that's just not a reality... so as someone who is in the business... I have to learn to adapt to the new way of doing things or I'll be left out. Tubes, torrents and file sharing websites are killing the "pay for porn" business model. The new generation just doesn't think that porn is something that you pay for. - Swirlie CEO Porn with Swirlie
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Clam Digger Deactivated User
Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05
Wow! I can't believe that big companies will try to kill the overall demand for paid porn to sell advertising links. If people can get there thrills for free, they won't buy from the big company hosting the site too, don't you think? You SHOULD get what you pay for. Nothing for nothing! They are stealing. A house of cards divided against itself will fall!