Are you still directing movies for Platinum X? If you are have ever given any thought about directing future projects which deal with the following genres?
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Posted - Sep 20 2005 : 11:37PM
Alex,
Yes I am still directing with Platinum X, in fact I shoot a new movie each month and have new releases coming every month starting in November including Ass Wreckage 2, Taste Her Ass 2 and On Your Knees Bitch.
As far as the catergories suggested, I have shot several so-called MILF's in my movies but not an entire movie devoted to it.
As far as Female/male strap on stuff - never say never but it's really not something I am into personally and I feel I create better product when I am filming something that makes me wet too...
Interracial? Any day! I have shot several interracial scenes for Platinum X and plan to shoot many more.
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Posted - Sep 21 2005 : 3:37PM
They are not ACTUALLY MILF scenes persay, but I have shot many girls who are mothers (usually young mothers)- whether they want that known or not I am unsure.
What is the obsession with MILF? I guess I really don't get it. Can someone explain it to me?
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Posted - Sep 21 2005 : 4:31PM
That's what I was curious about, is it the age and the maturity that comes with motherhood (if it's age don't mom-age women do the same, even if they don't have children?) or does it have to do with the fact that they have given birth? Or is it more along the lines of a forbidden thing, perhaps carried over from one's youth when you may have had a friend with a hot mom?
A MILF is a woman that an unexperienced highschool boy wants to be introduced by into the great mystery of sex.
In my opinion its not important that she has given birth.
But for most boys the only experienced women they ever met are the mothers of their friends, hence MILF instead of WILF. A MILF has an age between early thirties and mid fourties.
You just entered the MILF zone, Kylie. And you are the hottest MILF on earth, no matter if you have children or not.
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Posted - Sep 21 2005 : 6:15PM
So essentially it's a younger man/older (and I use that word loosely) woman attraction?
I filled in on Playboy's XM Radio awhile back and we interviewed some people from the website www.urbancougar.com which seems to be along the same lines. Their take is more older women looking for younger men, but they also focus on younger men searching for older women, partly because they appreciate their knowledge and experience. (that and women in their 30's are fucking crazy in bed - you know what they say about the "dirty-thirties"!)
Please, if anyone else wants to share their take on MILF's I am curious...
Sorry, if you find the term degrading, I won't use it anymore to describe you.
For me as a non-native speaker its difficult to get all implications of an English word.
Perhaps it got this degrading implication because fourty year old directors shoot MILF porn with women who were in the MILF age when the directors were in their teens?
I think this acronym simply became de facto standard when referencing mature women, and by mature we're talking 30+. In any case those who exceed the age of main porn contingent (18-25) and reached certain ripeness. I mean porn today is saturated with young girls. Seeing experienced horny vixens in action can be refereshing. I believe 3SB can provide valuable input on the subject.
Don't really think it matters if they are actually mothers. Who can check anyway?
I guess some part of juvenile phantasies may play a role in this. You have sites like, "you best friends hot mom" and something about banging a teacher, etc.
Well, it kind of grows on you. Perhaps it shouldn't be taken literally. What would you prefer to be called, Kylie?
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Posted - Sep 21 2005 : 7:40PM
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I think this acronym simply became de facto standard when referencing mature women, and by mature we're talking 30+. In any case those who exceed the age of main porn contingent (18-25) and reached certain ripeness. I mean porn today is saturated with young girls. Seeing experienced horny vixens in action can be refereshing. I believe 3SB can provide valuable input on the subject.
Don't really think it matters if they are actually mothers. Who can check anyway?
I guess some part of juvenile phantasies may play a role in this. You have sites like, "you best friends hot mom" and something about banging a teacher, etc.
Well, it kind of grows on you. Perhaps it shouldn't be taken literally. What would you prefer to be called, Kylie?
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Hmmm. I'll have to think about it - kidding.
I agree with you that 30+ women can be sooooo much sexier than young girls. I personally prefer my women to look like women, act like women and fuck like whores! :) I am just happy that you think I am sexy in a world filled with fresh young inexperienced pussy! Thank you!
First, thanks for being so incredibly cool, witty and funny. As someone who's been a journalist, I liked how you handled yourself during the Michael Jordan controversy as a journalist. You're an actress I not only lust after, but one I actually think would be great to converse with, and one any guy would be proud to be involved with.
So anyway...insight into the MILF phenomenon, with some empirical data but largely anecdotal experiences...I fantasized a lot about older women, especially growing up. Boys when they hit puberty get turned on very easily, almost all the time (at least I did) and - at least in the 1980s, in my hometown - most girls in early puberty didn't put out (13-16...nowadays statistics suggest sex occurs much younger and more prevalent.)
Anyway, for a 14 year old boy, older women presented examples of women who were sexually active, and who did sometimes present themselves in a very flirtatious if not overtly sexual manner (and I am convinced many knew what they were doing.)
I think here of the 30something next door neighbor who always came to the door in her negligee when I was delivering papers. I only halfway joke here when I say I saw more "accidental" nudity from here than I saw intentional nudity from a dancer I once dated. And for a 15 year old boy with raging hormones, that was strong stuff. It is strong stuff to be a teenager jerking off in the bathroom and hear the sexy next door neighbor also masturbating with the shower massager and yelping loudly. That might have been, to a kid, the first actual proof I had that women had libidos beyond what I read and saw in the movies. (I grew up in a very repressed Catholic family. My Mom has not dated anybody since my Dad passed, 25 years ago.)
Another aspect to it is, chances are a young male had the first inkling of his own sexuality and sex appeal through an older woman - at least for me, that was the case. My Mom worked with a boss who was hot. She was flaky, catty, mean, but also pretty wild - she was a school principal but she hung out with bikers. And as I started lifting weights and running - as my body started developing - she started groping my arms and "accidentally" brushing against me. (She did that to a lot of jocks.) To a 16-year-old girl, this would've probably been horrifying. To a boy, it was an unconsummated fantasy which was a ticket out of hormonal hell. Older women were sexual, and there was a cool taboo in imagining that - when they expressed an interest even if it was just flirting, even if it was just fucking with our heads - we'd be hot enough that they just might risk the job, the husband, whatever, and have sex with us when we came to mow the lawn, or came into the office, or whatever.
It's an archetypical male fantasy. The odd thing I think few people realize is, a lot of porn stereotypes portraying women do have corollaries in men. We always see the sexy Lolita in the schoolgirl outfit seducing the teacher, but when I was 16, I wanted to be the underaged basketball player taking the naughty principal on her desk, her pinstriped business dress and Victoria's Secret undies in disarray.
There's also the revenge motif. Sometimes, somehow, guys find it hot to sleep with the sister, mom or wife of a jerk who annoys them. It's even a common theme in the jokes and insults guys use. If you are 16 and there's an asshole who yelled at you for walking across his lawn, and his wife's sunbathing, it is entirely likely that evening you will be fantasizing about sex with the wife. If there's a student who's a jerk to you and his Mom's hot, chances are you fantasize about anally penetrating his Mom with a facial cumshot finish timed just as he walks in the door, traumatizing him so much it sends him to years of therapy. It is sex as power, for good or ill, and as boys figure out what to do with the thing between their legs, it's a theme they revisit.
For most guys, the MILF fantasy is never realized (I never had anybody older when I was in high school) so it lingers.
When guys reach their late teens and early 20s and do become sexually active, the MILF takes on a different meaning. In some respects, she is more experienced, and also perhaps more willing to do new things. When I was in my early 20s, I dated girls my age, but also a few women in their early 30s, and it was really sexy, albeit sometimes in a twisted way.
One I dated was a former student of my Mom's, and 10 years older, so her last memory of me until we met and dated was as a baby, not unlike her own kid at the time we started dating. And there were makeout sessions where she'd want sex, but be horrified that she was dating someone so young who was the kid of a teacher she respected. We went ahead and were intimate, but there was this sense of "I shouldn't be doing this..." that made it really hot, where it felt wrong but a nice kind of wrong. Very taboo and sexy.
Another factor: I think women in their 30s and 40s are conditioned to feel less attractive, when they aren't. (Kylie, you're a perfect example of how attractive the 30something can be.) At the same time, women reach their sexual peak at that age, while perhaps wondering if guys will find still find them attractive and competing with younger women, in a sense. (Amy Rigby wrote a great song about it called "Invisible.") So when younger guys who could be with younger women do pay attention, sometimes that makes their day...and yeah, sometimes it was fun to be a boy toy at age 24, just like I'm sure being a "trophy date" can make a girl feel sexy for a time. But at least in that period of my life, I'd date a mom, I'd sleep with a mom, but I'd never see long-term happening.
The thing is, often a guy's perspective shifts as he ages, whether he gets married, or has kids, or just has happen what happened to me. I was dating a very nice, very gorgeous mother of two. The sex was great, she was a former dancer, and I could not commit. I didn't want a readymade family. We were due to go out on her birthday. I had to work. She met up with an abusive ex, and he killed her.
The aftermath of that - realizing what that woman meant to her kids, and realizing that perhaps if I'd given the relationship a chance, she'd be alive - took the notion of the MILF and humanized it for me. I still find Moms sexy - I still find lots of women sexy - but it's the soul, the dedication...the depth...that flavors it now. A sense of being comfortable in their own skin...
I mean, I do think Janine is very beautiful, for example. But I never really was amazed with how sexy she was - maybe it was because of the long-term vegetarianism - until a few weeks ago when she responded to some fool criticizing her nipples with words to the effect that she was a mom who breastfed, and her kids matter most to her, and she loves her pancake nipples and her "big ass" and her gray hair, because dammit, she earned them.
That sense of comfort in her own skin and the defiance of some jerk who tried to marginalize her because her life progressed and evolved - because she did not stay some static pin-up queen - just floored me. It impressed me on a level that not only really turned me on, but also made me think, yeah, if I ever had a shot at being friends with that woman or ever dating a woman like that - not looks so much as personality - I would. For my money, Janine could spout porn cliches all day like "Fuck me hard with that big cock" and there's still nothing hotter than a girl with the courage to say "I love my big ass, and I love my gray hair. I love my kids. I earned them."
Because she's human. Because we all are. And we all age. We all evolve. And as we do, we need that fantasy - and occasionally reality - that the cute blond with the smile lines at the PTA meeting likes to be tied to the bed and ravished with the "wascally wabbit" vibe, and the cute redheaded HR person with the new baby loves videotaping herself because she secretly fantasizes about being a porn star. We need the MILF for what she represents - the progression of male and female sexuality and power.
Or at least that's my take. Sorry it's so long. Did that help at all Kylie?
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Posted - Sep 22 2005 : 2:05PM
Yes. You can see me in Manuel Ferrara's Mind Fuck, Jewel's Cumvert and coming soon my Open for Anal 2 and On Your Knees Bitch. I have also performed in a few features lately too: Pretty Mess for Vivid, Backwash Babes (not really a feature) for Hustler, No Man's Land 40 for Video Team and a few others. To check out some of the recent releases visit my online store at www.kylieirelandstore.com to get discription and my thoughts on each title.
Kylie, so happy to hear that your still performing! I've never seen you look hotter. Are there any interracial or DP scenes on the horizon?
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Posted - Sep 22 2005 : 2:35PM
I think it's used as a generic term to describe mature women. I hear it used to describe Lauren Graham all the time and she's childless (and if the rumors are true, she won't be conceiving naturally).
The fascination with older women is, in the view of this 38-year-old, simply us guys realizing that teenagers have a tight body and an empty head. Beyond boobs and buts that defy gravity, they have nothing going for them, and that includes the confidence and surity that comes with maturity. Remember the old Jack Palance commercial, where he said "Confidence is very sexy, dontcha think?" An older (read: 30s) woman knows who she is, what she likes and wants, and what a man likes.
Put it this way: I'd rather have just you or Graham or Shania Twain or Uma Thurman over any of the generic, undistinguished teen from the Barely Legal flicks any day. :)
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Posted - Sep 22 2005 : 2:57PM
There might just be, I sort of toss myself into scenes based on what I am in the mood for! I defintely want to do another DP and another interracial...hmmm, perhap there is an interracial DP in the future, eh?
Just watched your Cumvert scene with Manuel-- can't believe this was the first time you'd fucked him, it was a great scene, the best on the disc along with Hillary's.
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Posted - Sep 22 2005 : 3:47PM
Thanks! I absolutely love Manuel...ah, i he was single I would be a-chasin' that one! Since then I have done several scenes with him - Mind Fuck, Pretty Mess, Blush(to be released later this year), The Whore Next Door. That boy just knows how to fuck the ladies right.
Hillary is amazing, isn't she? She is so quiet and sweet and innocent until you turn the camera on her...then...pow! Dirty nasty whore! A good vote for Best New Starlet.
I would totally second that vote for Best New Starlet!! As for Manuel knowing how to fuck the ladies, I would also heartily agree with that statement. I had no idea this was Hillary's first scene for PXP but watching the BTS I found that out and this must've been pretty early in her career for that to be the case. You both should definitely hook up for a scene!
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Posted - Sep 22 2005 : 4:59PM
I have shot her several times (so has my boyfriend, Bryn aka director Eli Cross) and she is truly amazing.
Hillary did a kinky scene (with Renee Pornero and Katrina Kraven)for me in Taste Her Ass 2 which comes out this December. Nasty!
Another great scene with her is one Eli shot for Hustler called Backwash Babes, an all anal, ATM, cum-swapping movie. It was Hillary, Julie Night and Alex Sanders Fuckin' hot! (I was in it too!)
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Posted - Sep 22 2005 : 5:30PM
The MILF is a good idea. There are plenty of hot ladies in porn who've had long careers and still bring it with the best of them. Kylie Ireland, Rayveness, Tiffany Mynx, Nina Hartley, Vanessa Del Rio, Ginger Lynn, Amber Lynn, Vicky Vette, and a few others. Where do I sign up?
I remember one scene where Alex Dane played a daughter and Nicki Sterling played a mother who was teaching her daughter how to have sex her boyfriend by some hands-on training. You could do a great film using that theme.
I don't get why all of a sudden we are hearing so much about this MLIF crap. I have been a huge fan of Kylie for a long time and I hope to see her do a one on one IR scene in a none watermarked movied.
I was kinda wondering the same thing myself. In any case, I don't consider Kylie a milf. I think she's a real class act. Even if all she did from now on was direct i'd still buy her titles. You just don't see that kind of name recognition in the business nowadays.
That being said, Kylie...sweetie please don't go behind the camera full time just yet...pretty pleeeze!!
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Posted - Oct 19 2005 : 5:47PM
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I was kinda wondering the same thing myself. In any case, I don't consider Kylie a milf. I think she's a real class act. Even if all she did from now on was direct i'd still buy her titles. You just don't see that kind of name recognition in the business nowadays.
That being said, Kylie...sweetie please don't go behind the camera full time just yet...pretty pleeeze!!
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No worries, I am not completely behind the camera yet, I still have some fantasisies to work out and a couple projects I want to do.
The next movie of mine (directed by me) that has me in it is Open for Anal 2 - I did a rockin' one-on-one with Steve Holmes.
I am under contract for gonzo and directing to PXP but I still occasionally do a feature for other companies. (Just cause I say feature doesn't mean it's fluffy either!! The aren't features like back in the day!) A couple really nasty movies are out now -
-Babackwash Babes (Excessive/VCA; an all anal ATM, cum-swapping-movie)
-Epiphany (Hustler - dungeon scene with Lauren Phoenix, Julie Night, Katrina Kraven and Kimberly Kane)
-No Man's Land 39 (Video Team - we beat he crap out of Kieko in a kidnap scene)
-No Man's Land 40 (g/g anal romp with with Trina Michaels)
-Pretty Mess (Vivid - a nasty anal scenes with Manuel Ferrara)
-Blush (coming from Vivid - another one with Manuel)
...and of course a few with Redlight/Plaitunum X:
-Open for Anal 2 (PXP - coming soon - anal with Steve Holmes)
-Mind Fuck (Redlight; directed by Manuel - 2 scenes; one with Manuel and one playing a dominatrix)
-Cumvert (PXP; directed by Jewel - yet another with Manuel - what can I say! I love working with Manuel!)
-On Your Knees Bitch (PXP; directed by me - coming January - has a bonus BTS BJ scene with the director!)
Whew! That outta be enough to keep you all entertained for awhile...
FYI - I also sell most of these in my online store if you would like a personally autographed copy!
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Posted - Jul 12 2006 : 5:07PM
Hi Kylie, do you have any idea when Ass Wreckage 4 will be released? I'm looking forward to seeing the SaSha Knox and especially the Joanna Angel scenes. Thanks, BF
