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Cumwhipper
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Mini-Review : "American Gokkun" (JM Productions)

Well boys and girls, Amber Rayne was not making it up. With the help of Ashley Blue using a couple of spoons, Amber collects the sperm of some 70+ men in a blender cup. Ashley then proceeds to hook it up to the blender and make a cum frappe - about milkshake consistency I'd guess. The resultant dessert is then given back to Amber, who sucks it down with a straw. And she sucks it down FAST! We're talking less than 30 seconds to swallow this ginormous spooge cocktail. She then produces not one, but TWO burps, and the second one is a long and loud belch. AWESOME!!! Amber smiles and eggs the guys on throughout.

I don't think I saw Amber flinch once - not even when cum landed in her eye. As a matter of fact, she laughed when the cum landed on her face instead of in her mouth. Sort of reminiscent of the Sasha Knox scene in "American Bukkake #29", where Sasha seemed to enjoy every load that hit her face and mouth.

This scene must be seen to be believed. Amber, Ashley, and Jeff Steward have collaborated in creating one of the filthiest, sickest displays of depravity ever, and they have my total admiration. Amber is just an unbelievable slut. After seeing her balls-to-the-wall scene in "1 Lucky Fuck #2", I wasn't sure how much crazier she could get, but this is way beyond even that scene.

The Leah Luv scene is in stark contrast to Amber's scene. Leah clearly gets overwhelmed about halfway through her scene. In her scene, the guys basically use her mouth as a cum dumpster, dropping load after load after load into it. Her mouth just gets more and more full of spooge, and she's laughing and gargling and bubbling it up. Again, this just has to be seen to be believed. Unfortunately, Leah reaches a point where she can't hold it in her mouth anymore, and projectile spits it out. We're talking about 20 loads-worth here - a huge amount. Most lands on her lower belly and pussy, and Jeff encourages her to scoop up what she can and put it back in her mouth. She does this, and manages to swallow most of it, but then it seems like the reality of what she's in for hits her, and she starts to waiver in her love for the anonymous spooge of dozens of strangers.

After god knows how many loads have been dumped in her mouth (she swallows periodically - some small and some large gulps), one guy seems to intentionally aim for her eyes, and makes a bullseye. Leah is not amused! You can tell she wasn't expecting it. Leah soldiers on and manages to drain every dick in the room at least once. Several of the guys seem to be "repeat offenders" and come back to drop another load in her mouth. At one point, a very noticeable, involuntary belch makes it's way up and out of Leah's by-now full little tummy. Really good stuff.

Leah ends the scene VERY ready to take a shower. I don't think we'll see Leah back for a repeat performance. But this was quite a memorable scene as well. Leah is a total trooper.

Can't wait to see what's in store for future participants in this spooge-fest of a series. Based on this first release, I'll almost certainly be buying future installments without needing a rental.

An absolute MUST for cumswallowing fans!

vgarry
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 7:44AM
I read that Sasha Knox is performing in American Gokkun 2. Can anyone confirm this info.
Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 7:50AM
I can't confirm it, but I do know that Sasha has expressed interest in performing in this new series. It seems tailor made for her. Sasha Knox and Amber Rayne are two perfect examples of the new generation of porn girls who absolutely love cum, and make no bones about it. It's a refreshing contrast to the cum dodgers and spitters of old!
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Sasha Know in AG, that is proof that Gawd is not dead.
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 2:47PM
Is it just that usual static JM crap where the fat dudes all mill around and then agonzingly jerk off on the girl or in the blender or whatever without any physical contact? If there's no sucking, it ain't porn to me.
 
kh
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 2:59PM
I gotta agree with Skronker. If there is no interaction, why not just have all the guys come in a bowl ahead of time and just drive it there(slowly, so as not to spill in the trunk) and have her down it.

What a waste of two hot stars.

Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 3:55PM
Nobody is holding a gun to you and Skronk's heads making you watch it. Go start your own thread and stop being a killjoy.
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 4:01PM
Ashley Blue?

Ugh.

Why JM why!!! I understand she's eager... but she is so busted.

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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 5:03PM
I fear for my soul but I must see this. JAV is awesome but it lacks that connection that only gets formed when viewer and performer speak the same language. When the girl swallows her hundredth load, I need to know what she is murmuring to herself as she realises the extent of the madness her desires have driven her too.

Dear God Cumwhipper; it makes tired just thinking about how much porn you must watch every week

EDITED: grammar

Edited by - Dreamer on 8/19/2006 5:04:33 PM

Ryan81
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Sounds bo-ti-ful
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How can I kill your joy if you really loved the scene?
I was trying to determine if there was oral sex in the movie or if it was strictly a fat slob bukkake loser jerk off flick? Rather than rudely dismiss me, you could provide an answer to my question. Then I'll know if the movie is for me or not. I find the American Bukkake series to be a total waste of my time. Your mini-review was so eloquent and passionate it made me think this might be an exception. But I'm only interested if there's cocksucking.

Is there?

Ryan81
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 5:36PM
While I do like the "American Bukkake" series, I do find it to be weaker than John Thompson's stuff, simply because there's no interaction between the male performers' cocks and the girls' mouths. My only guess as to the reason for this, is that it's meant to be more about sexual humiliation.
I always prefer girls to be more proactive in their scenes, although it's not a tragedy if they are not.

Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 5:48PM
No.

Believe me skronk, I have my own tastes in porn, and if I enjoy a movie even if there's very little actual mouth-on-cock contact, your opinion that it isn't really porn is not going to make me enjoy it less. I just find it annoying. I felt like you were rudely dismissing MY opinion, so perhaps that's why I reacted so strongly.

No worries, it's a big porn world out there, with plenty for everyone.

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I said, "It ain't porn to me ."

I was asking for more info, and clearly stating what I do and don't like in this type of movie. I wasn't attacking your taste in the least. I've watched about a dozen different JM titles along these lines and always been disappointed. I was looking for a reason to rent this one, given your enthusiasm. Anyway, thanks for answering my question. I'll skip it.

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That's what I jerk off to.
 
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Is this a porn discussion forum or just a place where fanboys wax lyrical?
IWAdult
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Skrunker hit the nail on the head. i watched the film last week and i found it a waste of time and talent. Seeing a girl kneeling there waiting for 71 guys to jerk off into her mouth or a cup for over an hour and a half is boring to me.

And to see Leah Luv's face after her scene was sad. she looked like she was about to cry. I felt bad for her.

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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 9:21PM
And that's what I jerk off to.

I'm not really much into this kind of stuff either, but for a change of pace a bit of a circus act might be entertaining. I'm checking it out.


I've noticed some tension on the board. It sucks that people have to tread lightly, or indicate that they've had enough. Move the fuck on if you you're not interested.


Cumwhipper, good mini-review.


Skronker, I asked you a question too in another thread - hoping you can enlighten me.

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:bananajerk:
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Movies like this are the reason uninformed types decide to go after the porn industry.

They assume the truly un-erotic and tasteless stuff that happens in these vids is the NORM.

Cumwhipper: By lining JM's pockets you are making it worse for all us.

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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 9:52PM
Yeah, apparently you can't discuss the merits of a flick in an honest direct manner without offending someone. That wasn't my intention. I comment as a FAN of the blowbang and the Mike John/Jules Jordan/Brandon Iron/T. Von Swine mope gropes ... If they ain't no blowing or no banging, it doesn't work for me. That's all I'm saying. It works for you? Great.

Happy dance

Can you give me a hint? Which thread?

Edited by - skronker on 8/19/2006 9:58:09 PM

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Posted - Aug 19 2006 : 10:15PM
@skronker - My apologies. I just overreacted (and didn't read your original post carefully enough). People are free to discuss whatever they want on this forum.

@Ejac - Thanks for the feedback on the mini-review. I love circus acts!

@tritone - I respect your point of view, but if I like a movie, I'm going to say so. Much as I hate the idea that the same "uninformed types" that I loathe as much as anyone will target porn because they might make assumptions about "American Gokkun" being the "norm", I refuse to censor my preferences. If Gonzalez and the rest of those jackbooted thugs want to bring a lawsuit against JM for making Bukkake, Gokkun and Gag Factor movies, let them go ahead. Better to get all this shit aired out in court and deal with it directly rather than this slow, steady picking away (e.g. 2257). Oh wait, maybe the Supreme Court isn't such a good idea after all. We're totally screwed!

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Click.

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Sure no problem ... I didn't want to be misread.
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You know when a fruit is no longer fresh and its old ?? well thats how I feel about all the jm bukkake videos ( American Bukkake and Lesbian Bukkake ) A long time ago , Jeff Stewart and Ashley Blue came up with a good original concept: Make hardcore porn that pushed the limits of good taste....well that taste has gotten sour!!!!!!!!! I say its time for someone else to take over JM Productions. Someone who can make serious creative Bukkake porn.

Heres a list of how the bukkake videos should be improved:

1) Make American Bukkake more creative with new younger hotter sexier girls and even older sexy milfs who all want to be cummed on and drink down gallons of sperm. Enough of feeding the cumsluts with spoons and shit, only use cum bongs, more funnels, buckets and other objects that can deliever all that good yummy semen loads :) Also have men who are ready to ejaculate on the women, not just step up to the camera and take forever to explode :) Plus make the bukkake more spontenous, have 4 guys or 3 guys cum on the slut at the same time!! Not wait for 1 dumb guy at a time...Bukkake should be done in such an unpredictable way, that it should require more men at the same time jizzzing, creaming , and spunking loads after loads all over pornstarlets :) and finally NO CAMERAS FLASHING!!!!

2) Make Lesbian Bukkake more creative and use real pornstarlets who can REALLY SQUIRT/EJACULATE. Not fake pussy douche water injections that magically gush out again..NONE OF THAT!!!! Enough of pornstars like Gen Padova, Delilah Strong and other skinny girls who have no tits....If Lesbian Bukkake is going to have nothing but women on women watersports, then please....give us girls like Doninta Dunes, Kiki Daire, Jewel De Nyle, Brianna Banks, Gina Ryder and Shyla Foxx who have the right big tits and curvy body to make watching 2 hours of lesbian squirting enjoyable instead of boring us with flat ugly pale anorexic boney cumsluts who have a dry pussy! And finally, the sex ....ohh the lack of lesbian sex in Lesbian Bukkake is just irritating beyond belief, instead of 10 minutes of repetitive solo girl masturbation, lets have 10 hotter minutes of ALL-GIRL LESBIAN "SEX" which means: strap-on dildo fuckings, strap-on 3 sums, 4 sums, anal beads and butt spanking play with tons of body oil....more oral sex on the pussy.....and let it all end in a big wet bukkake pussy squirt climax. Turn Lesbian Bukkake into Where The Girls Sweat and Buttslammers with all that hardcore oiled up girl-girl sex and real squirting.....I know Im repeating myself now but Im really passionate about watching all the bukkake porn thats being produced today by studios like JM , ELEGANT ANGELS AND FILMCO.

Now...........if anyone out there has some good ideals or even better ideals than mine, please give me a good honest reply...thanks

 
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Lesbian Bukkake is totally fake. If it's not piss it's douche. They get like $100 a squirt/blast. Pretty easy work.
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yeah but its not real porn :( dammm...has todays pornography gotten to the point of just lameduck entertainment?? its like hello?? this is still about sex! not girls gone wild and see how much the girls can laugh, joke around on camera and pretend to do serious nasty stuff :(

fuck the money if the girls arent gonna take porno seriously ...

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The girls are just picking up a paycheck. I don't think it matters to them beyond that.
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Well?? It does matter to me :) especially if im buying all this porn....but in my case, i download all my porn for free (:O)

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That sounds suspiciously like promoting illegal file sharing. AdultDVDTalk doesn't condone such activities and if the admins decide you are promoting them your account will be deactivated.
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The blender thing destroys the appearance of the cum which I hate, excessive gargling also makes cum look like something else than cum.

Leah Luv's scene sounds exactly why I don't like JM... I can't jerk off to that kind of stuff without feeling guilty about it. If I directed it I would at least ask her if she needs to take five, clean her up a bit, maybe give her something for those red eyes... girls who put up with us perverts deserves a little bit more respect imo...

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I already have 20 accounts registered for here. DONT TEST ME ....and im not admitting to illegal file sharing, but with the amount of crappy porn being produced today, can you really blame someone for wanting to share files instead of buying them??? especially when the studios dont respect viewers request?? hypocrites

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I have no interest in testing you. This is a private forum. You either comply with the rules or you get thrown out. QED.
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I love it when you do Latin.
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mod note: post removed for violating the Forum Etiquette


Edited by - hardware on 8/20/2006 11:09:55 AM

 
Cumwhipper
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Bye bye RAGE69. We barely knew ya! LOL
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LOL! Well, regardless of whether the mods take you to the woodshed, Ill go ahead and say that I agree about the cameras flashing during Bukkake scenes. For the life of me, in this age of digital cams when you can almost certainly get better stills right of the camera, why JM insists on trying to take flash pictures with a high-speed camera. I I'm frame-by-framing though a particularly nasty sequence, then every flash of that stupid camera washes out many of the frames. WTF? And maybe one or two of those camera shots actually make it onto the boxcover anyway.

Then of course, there's the cameraman himself, often blocking the best lighting as he's filming. Haven't they ever heard of overhead lighting?

Yes, the American Bukkake series has plenty of flaws, but Sasha Knox's scene in "American Bukkake #29" was the best AB scene I've ever seen. And I've enjoyed several other recent AB scenes. It's not usually great, but it's often very strokeworthy.

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Hardware - Did you graduate "summa cum loudly"?
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I don't think that was graduation, no.
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This is why i love ADT they take no bullshit and don't fuck around.
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The way to improve American Bukkake and American Gokkun is for producers/directors to study the masters: Japanese bukkake & gokkun flicks and GGG. I'd like to see more of the GGG orgiastic feel to the AB and AG series. Show us some sucking and fucking before and during the cum build up and cum swallowing. And the Japanese have so many imaginative ways to collect and play w/ cum: bowls, funnels, masks holding cum in place, slurping off faces, swapping back and forth, etc.
I'd also like to see more vaginal stimulation of the girls while they collect and eat cum. Stick a vibrator in her cunt while she's collecting. Or fuck her. Or have her sit on a guy's face. Or she could masturbate. Just picture her getting more and more aroused as her mouth (or a bowl) fills up. Then, just as she cums herself she gulps down a massive amount of thick, chunky, stingy jism. Now we're talking Oscar winning performance. Also, more verbal encouragement from the girls. Let them beg for more. I mean really beg like they're addicted to cum and have GOT to have more. And talk to us w/ their mouths full. Tell us how good it tastes and how hot it makes them. And THEN beg for some more. Lots more. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Ryan81
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Posted - Aug 21 2006 : 12:44PM
That's exactly my feeling, too, Texan. That's why I prefer GGG to AB.
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Posted - Aug 21 2006 : 4:37PM
To be sexually excited by somebody else's unwilling sexual humiliation is sadism. I am not a sadist and I don't believe that jerking off to this imagery is sadistic. Why? Because everything that took place was consensual.

Leah CHOSE to do this. I don't have any personal knowledge of her reasons but I'm guessing she did it for the money, she did it for the glory of being the very first American porn star to do something this extreme, she did it for her fans and she did for herself, to learn how much she was capable of taking. Regardless, Leah CHOSE to be degraded and in my book, that means she is the one with the power and has not been degraded at all.

Gunzo is concerned that the shooting of the scene was abusive to Leah and I know JM shoots can be a car-crash sometimes but I, perhaps naively, have the belief that the girls can stand up for themselves and if Leah felt she was in pain and this was not being addressed she would have stood up and walked off the set.

The experience was clearly physically exhausting and increasingly unpleasant; she was facing a huge challenge that would be impossible for most women to even consider and unsurprisingly found it very tough-going towards the end, and now she has done it once as an experiment she probably doesn't feel the need to do it again (but then look at how many GGG/JAV girls go back again and again and again...) All of this is fine, normal, perfectly understandable. I like to see porn stars getting challenged. I don't see this as evidence of abuse. To have gone through all this makes her some kind of Goddess in my eyes and I shall always think of her with admiration just as I do with Debbie Diamond or Britney Madison.

This is how I see it anyway. There is a strong smell of misogyny around JM Productions (the box cover for this very DVD for example) and I wanted to clarify my own individual position. Counter-opinions are welcome.

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I love the most hardcore gonzo stuff, I think Jake Malone is nice to the girls in Throat Gaggers... doesn't matter what nasty things he call them or how he's putting them down, he still comes off as a nice guy.
My point: girls should not want to leave the set prematuraly at all... if that's the case there something wrong with the director and his use of psychology.

In JM bukakkes there's like a wall between the girl and the guys, they're never equals, not even BTS. This is what disturbs me the most, that the girl seems left alone to endure this difficult performance. Then she hurries to the shower, probably grab her check without even saying 'thank you'. Not my idea of porn as 'a big family'.

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For me, an erotic bukkake or gokkun flick is one in which it appears that the girl would do it all for free. Actually, she'd pay the guys for the opportunity. This implies a collaborative relationship between the guys and the girl(s): they're partners in a mutually satisfying sexual experience. AB & AG typically fall short of this. The AB film w/ Sasha Knox was one of the more successful exceptions to this shortcoming. I want the girl to want the cum, not endure it for $$.
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@ Cumwhipper: thanks for this thread!

@ Tritone: this is an example of movies responsible for 'uninformed types' to 'go after the porn industry'? I only wish it would be this "ying-jang-ish". At least 'they' would be informed enough knowing this specific movie.

Reading Cw mini-review, I immediately decided to buy this movie. Personally I would like to see the porn industry as a reasonably good commercial and democratic environment, enough so to make AG a series when demand asks. I like to vote, and within a 'freedom of speech and opinion' it would be very sad seeing this made difficult by people like you who vote what they like,and destroying all other options to vote for.
Very sad indeed.

p_n

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It's all about watching guys jerk off.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!


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Not to put too fine a point on this, but for me it's actually about watching guys jerk off into a pretty girl's mouth and eventually watching her swallow massive amounts of spooge!
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Sure, if that's your thing...
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