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wheelchair1
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Posted - Jun 1 2005 : 9:12PM
I've been using a trial of dBpowerAMP for ripping cds to MP3. I like the different options of bitrates, the easy UI, and the sound encoding quality. After the 30 day trial it's unusable.

Does anyone know of a way to redownload it or reinstall it so that the lock comes off? OR does anyone know a comparable FREE program?

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Posted - Jun 1 2005 : 9:37PM
If it's good then why don't you buy it?
cv
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Posted - Jun 1 2005 : 10:38PM
I've used LAME, both on Wintel PCs and Macs. I believe there are free GUIs for each.

I know that on a Mac, there's a plug-in that allows you to use the LAME encoder from iTunes.

EL_
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 12:25AM
itunes does so much and it is free! try it. regedit if you can find all the stuff you could fix and reinstall but just buy it if it is that great.
PL
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 1:01AM
I'm a free whore too, like to get what I can for free as often as I can... Well within legal boundaries....

Anyway, try CDex

I use it and like it, 100% free and does a good job.

 
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 1:04AM
I like to get stuff free because it saves me from getting something I end up not liking. However, I do tend to pay for stuff if I keep it - IrfanView, for example.

It isn't free to the person writing the program, after all.

jamesn
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Hurrab
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 7:47AM
Though people might not like me for proposing it..

Windows Media Player 10 is capable of creating MP3 files in addition to various version of WMA.

willywilly
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 12:43PM
jamesn
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 1:36PM
blade really isn't a very competitive encoder these days, if you want to know more i'd search around hydrogenaudio.org a bit.
kukm4
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 2:02PM
I've used Audio Grabber Its free.

From one of the recent headlines on the homepage.
...I am working with Spoon from dBPowerAMP with that. (Basically, he is telling me how to support the internal encoders he have for his program dBPowerAMP).

Any x-tra files you might need in addition to the program will be in the download section.

Hope this helps

Kukm4
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Edited by - kukm4 on 6/2/2005 2:11:36 PM

willywilly
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Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 2:55PM
Fair enough. I'm not really into audio, so I am not current.
I just remembered it from having used it a time or two. It worked - good enough for me - and it was free.

By competitive, what do you mean? Can't be the price - :) .
Do other encoders do a better job somehow? how so?
What should one look for, etc. ?

Thanks

jamesn
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 12:36AM
.mp3 is a lossy format, meaning the encoder doesn't keep all the data of the original .wav. the goal when encoding from disc is basically to achieve transparency at the lowest possible bitrate and filesize. good codecs use a well-designed psychoacoustic model to guess what's most likely to be recognized by your ear or not in any chunk of data, some don't have one at all. lame's about the best .mp3 can get as a format--everything's tweaked from how it varies the bitrate to saving space by using joint-stereo instead of 2-identical channels. it's still being developed and tested, i don't think anyone's changed blade in years-basically you'll get better-sounding music at smaller filesizes.
EL_
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 12:40AM
jamesboston what do you use for wav encoding then?
willywilly
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 10:22AM
Very clear.

Thanks!

 
willywilly
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 10:43AM
Just for the hell of it, I looked around for lame. Of course, Google swamped me with choices. :) Looks like there are a million different versions, etc.

Tried the page you mentioned above - Exact Audio Copy - figured they might have a good link for obtaining lame.
Found a link there, sure enough. It goes to this link .

Maybe I didn't spend enough time looking around, but all I found to download was source code, which seems to be what I recall sourceforge as being the place to go for.

Can you recommend a place to go, for folks that are not wanting all the gory details and background and to compile, to get the version you recommend of lame that will run on Win9x?


kukm4
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 12:28PM
Hello
If you scroll up to my last post I got a link for program Audio Grabber. If you go to download section you can also find a link for Lame Codec and mirror links incase the 1st one does not work.
jamesn
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 4:37PM
you probably want 3.96.1, which can be found on rarewares.org or the sourceforge LAME project page.

EL_-what format do you want the files to be? for mp3, lame's your best bet. ipods play .aac, irivers and rio karma's will play .ogg, both are more modern than .mp3 by a small margin. you can play any of them on your computer. if you want to go lossless, flac or .ape are the best options, but are about 50% compressed so you might not want to use them for a large collection of music on a small hard drive.

hydrogenaudio.org is really the authority on the subject, you've got the people developing pretty much all of the current formats checking in there.

kukm4
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 4:43PM
Aside from the codec. what is the best choice in terms of bitrate? CBR(constant bitrate) or VBR (variable bitrate?
jamesn
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 5:22PM
LAME offers a few options that are pretty hard to improve on. -preset standard is transparent to almost everyone, it's VBR and averages somewhere around 180 for bitrate. if you've got a portable, i'd consider -preset medium or adding the -Y switch to standard and drop things a bit for smaller files. VBR routines tend to work poorly at bitrates below 128, but you're not likely to find anything that's transparent in that range.

basically the -standard preset is never going to sound bad and you don't improve upon it much even by throwing more bits at it.

willywilly
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 7:19PM
I looked there. It specifically says "LAME MP3 DLL".
I was wanting the whole thing - compiled executable for Win9x - not just something to use in conjunction with some other program.

Fortunately, I went back after reading your post, and this time clicked through. At the download site, it appears to be more than just the .dll. :)

Thanks

willywilly
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 7:24PM
Went there. Found it. Looks like the filedate on the .exe is a few days older than on the .exe in the zip file I got from the site linked through the Audiograbber site, even though both indicate the same version number.
hmmm...

Haven't experimented with either yet. I'll see what I got eventually. :)

Thanks again.

willywilly
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Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 7:40PM
This is slightly off topic, but it might help somebody who is lurking and following along:

Can somebody give me a quick lesson in how to use sourceforge.net?

Here's what I did:
I went to http://sourceforge.net/ .
In their little search box on the left, typed in lame .
It defaulted to Software/Group so I left that as is, and clicked on Search.

Got several hits.
This looked like the one for Lame itself:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lame/

Here's my problem - when I go there, all I can find is tarred versions, that I suspect are source code for linux versions.
A few times in the past, I've found myself looking for something on sourceforge.net, and this reminded me that this has happened before.

Apparently, I don't know what I'm doing with sourceforge. :)
You wouldn't have sent me there looking, if there was not a Windoze version there somewhere. Previously, I had the idea that sourceforge was just for linux software.

Is there a trick to finding compiled, ready to run software there? Zipped, not tarred? And is there a trick to finding Windoze softare there?




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