I suppose it is, however, when you pick a movie that is a well-regarded as that one, you are going to get people like me who actually read the screenplay as sort of a non-dvd commentary. It fills in the movie. I actually possess the screenplays to nearly 100 films (both in book, actual screenply from movie, and on my computer).
Now, had you asked for the last line of dialogue in 'Sweet Sweetback's Badaaass Song' or 'Cannonball Run 2', then I suppose the winner would really have to know that film.
Jake, my friend, your call - either way is not a problem, although I am very interested in "Fuck Slaves"
Chinatown,Facedance,Bruce Seven Movies Great Taste all great movies in their own context. Also on that note Blade Runner...the Scene on the Rooftop in the Rain w Rutger & Ford ... "Time to Die" still spellbinding... as was Darla's ass in 'Where the girls Sweat' . Ah the mind knows no boundries as all these thoughts of beauty sex & cinema can meld ..... the visuals in "Hero" and the pleasure of shooting Sandra Romain. Life is Good. Hey Jake,Glenn
Or people who google to find the answer and come up with the screenplay version
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 11 2006 : 1:22PM
Holy shit...diligence pays off!!Ewww, role play!! Kewl!!Try an LA area truck stop where they don't clean them out but every 12 hours.Edited by - Eric381 on 10/11/2006 1:30:45 PM
Threesomebody, where has the the trust gone? If people on a web-site committed to serious discussions aon topics such as Gaping, Reverse-Gangbangs, JM Production, On Camera Incest, Rough Sex, B&D (but mostly D), fetishes that would make Seka blush, and which porn star looks the youngest, then what have we become?
Can't all three of you just get along? Or at the very least, perhaps you could reach a 2/3 majority. And as a final tactic, you could play rock, paper, scissors (Lisa: "Poor Bart - He always picks Rock." Bart: "Good ol' reliable rock. Nothing beats rock." Together, "One-two-three!" Bart: D'oh!!"
I decided to check out Fuck Slaves since the trailer with the shot of Annette Schwarz in that tight blue outfit jiggling her ass intrigued me...
But shit, what was with the rough BJ scene...specifically, when she's on her back with her head over the end of the bed...the guys were thrusting into her mouth so fast...how could she have said "stop" EVEN if she wanted to??? She kept saying 'ohh god' everytime they pulled out...and not in a good way IMO...sometimes it looked like it took two or three slaps on the guys legs (and two or three extra thrusts) before she could get a breath....
Seriously, if someone feels the scene is going too far...(ie...not being able to breathe...just watch the scene in question...) what are the chances they will even say 'No' or 'Stop'. Maybe they'll think if they say no....
- they won't get paid? - other directors won't shoot them - pressure to just grin and bear it...
???
It was mostly that part of the scene which made me wonder...why even do it?
I think the scene was really good, and intense, i like when the Boy deepthroat me with nmy head hanging over the bed, cause its hard to breathe and when i really like something than it makes me think oh my god i can not believe that this happen, thats why i say oh my god!!! I am so horny and just can not believe how horny it makes me. Oh my god... I love it and maybe it have sound strange... I think a girl knows that it sounds diffrent if u say something when ur head is bended so much over, spit is in ur nose etc...
Censors are ignorant, they have no idea HOW to watch some material. People say directors like Jake Malone or Brandon Iron are rough, still I get the feeling that girls get treated much better than on most porn sets... they motivate the girls to push it further instead of expecting it.
And, of course, fuck the censors. Now I'm going to dl the trailer and then perhaps import a copy (I've given up on 'local distributors' for all kinds of reasons). Fight the power.
Some people don't/will never, get it. S/M, B/D, rough sex, etc.
If you have to ask, " Why would you do that?", as in, "Why would you want your lover to take you over his knee and SPANK you?...Doesn't that hurt?...How could you LIKE it, if it hurts?", then you will never get it, it's not your thing and that's fine, just move on to things that DO turn you on.
And Annette, my darling, I love the picture on your avatar, but can't you rotate it? Or did you want it like that?
Please write and tell me how you're doing and did you get my e-mail.
Love, your biggest fan, Jake
Edited by - jake malone on 10/12/2006 1:42:48 PM
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Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 1:47PM
Hey Jake,
I have a question:
I live in Canada. When this movie comes out on DIVX, I will rent it. Will it be the uncut version I'm getting?
I think I rented something from them once before and it was the uncut version as opposed to the Canadian release.
I think that's one way of getting around the our crappy Canadian laws.
Jake my sickest pervertst sex partner in my young life....
I will write u soon back i promise!!! I will rotate i thought i did it...
I can say u in Munich u cant find the movie anymore, they have a wait list for two weeks, i orderd myself one for my parents for christmas. That they can see they rased me to good Man Ass Cleaning Slave...
P.S.: Jake i like the text under the picture and specially the spelling...
Luv u and slap ur Face from me...
jake malone wrote: Thank you Annette,
Some people don't/will never, get it. S/M, B/D, rough sex, etc.
If you have to ask, " Why would you do that?", as in, "Why would you want your lover to take you over his knee and SPANK you?...Doesn't that hurt?...How could you LIKE it, if it hurts?", then you will never get it, it's not your thing and that's fine, just move on to things that DO turn you on.
And Annette, my darling, I love the picture on your avatar, but can't you rotate it? Or did you want it like that?
Please write and tell me how you're doing and did you get my e-mail.
Love, your biggest fan, Jake
Edited by - jake malone on 10/12/2006 1:42:48 PM [/quote]
Even though you rotated the picture, it still has the same file name. Since your browser stores images locally to make pages load faster, and the rotated picture still has the same file name, your browser doesn't recognize the change. You need to force a refresh for it to update the image to show the new position - hit the F5 key.
Don't call it BDSM or rough sex. You're only roughing up women in your movies. It's a one way street. It's called misogyny.
Making extreme misogynist movies is the realm of the lazy and incompetent.
What went wrong, Jake? You made some pretty hot sex movies in your RLD days, but now you've landed in Evil Angel territory, you put out woman-hating crap.
I believe if my German is not completly gone it means horse.
Annette is the best deep throater I believe I have EVER seen. At 49 and having watched porn for 30 years or more I think that is saying something. She is adorable, smoldering, cute, nasty, fearless and a complete turn on to me. Plus I have had a soft spot for frauleins since I spent 3 years in Germany.
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Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 3:20PM
It seems you haven't watched enough Annette flicks, that's what I think.Daddy would be proud, no?Quite the contrary, like directors such as Ivan, I think Jake's flicks are quite creative and sensual. They add a sense of obedience that otherwise exist mostly in fantasy. The only "woman-hating" is that labeled by those types who think that porn (read: fantasy) should be snuggles & kisses, luvy-duvey shit. Much the same I find tattooes quite erotic, Jake's movies are held to the same light.
Open your mind...or just don't bother watching. Fewer critics are needed in porn, but not to say that ass-kissing is necessary either. There is something for EVERYONE.
Still, would Jake Malone be cool with a woman violently thrusting down his throat with a strapon? Well...perhaps yes?
I guess my point was...what if a girl who isn't as...er...wild as Annette gets into a scene like that...but realizes they're in over their head MID-SCENE...are they really going to say 'stop'? Will they be able to? Will they feel pressured to keep going?
Do what you want...as long as there is no coercion involved.
PS. To Hardware:
Please tell me who is in your avatar pic...I love those kind of shots.
Edited by - 007 on 10/12/2006 3:40:04 PM
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 3:47PM
I suppose?...if he wanted to experiment with his sexuality, or was outright gay.
You act as if he's doing it out of spite against "woman-kind", or for that matter...with girls who aren't cool with it??
As for Hardware's avatar, it's Wanda Curtis as I so learned earlier this week through a similar question.
Don't give me this retarded bullshit. I said that only women were the recipient of this "rough" sex. Only the women are being humiliated. That's misogyny by definition.
I'm only complaining because I thought he made some pretty good porn in the past.
007, i can garantee u that Jake, is a person who take so much care of the peformers ,what they like and what they dont like. Even if they will be ashamed or to shy to say it. He hates if the girl or boy is uncomftorbal he stops shooting by the way. For him its not sexy, like for the most. In my first scene for him i did b/g/g and i was spitting on the girls face , i didnt take care if she liked it ,cause it have make me horny. And he screamed at me if i can not see that this girl doesnt like it.
quote] 007 wrote: Fair play to Annette for responding.
Still, would Jake Malone be cool with a woman violently thrusting down his throat with a strapon? Well...perhaps yes?
I guess my point was...what if a girl who isn't as...er...wild as Annette gets into a scene like that...but realizes they're in over their head MID-SCENE...are they really going to say 'stop'? Will they be able to? Will they feel pressured to keep going?
Do what you want...as long as there is no coercion involved.
PS. To Hardware:
Please tell me who is in your avatar pic...I love those kind of shots.
Am I reading this right? Did he correct you when Naomi didn't like it?
Hmmm, I always thought this was some sick joke of Jake. To have the Arab Tony T and the German chick humiliate the Jewish girl, like he did with the other Jewish girl Joanna Angel in the same flick.
Skronki i love u for loveing blondes and for that that u like to get drunk really sympatic . I have to make a break with drinking i got kicked out off my flat last week and have blue eye... makes me just a little aggressive
I almost got beat up by some metal dude at the Rainbow, like .... um ... 20 years ago? (naw, can't be .... can't be .... sigh) but I swear his chick was hitting on me! That was a fun joint.
Sure, however, people are generally allowed harsher statements in the context of reviewing movies. The reason Twiki didn't get chastised is because his comments were viewed as commentary on your current material, not as a personal attack on you. I'm not saying you have to like it, but as a purveyor of entertainment to the public you do have to put up with it.
I've agreed with Jake that Twiki may be misinterpreting the dynamic in his movies. I've pointed out why Twiki's remarks were allowed to stand in the first place.
If Jake really feels I'm allowing Twiki to personally attack him he can go over my head and complain to steph. If he's just miffed because his work is being denigrated then, even though he gets some sympathy from me, he gets no relief. Harsh criticism goes with territory. As an artist, I've had to swallow some myself. It didn't make me happy either but, in the end, I had to admit that the critic had the right to express his opinion.
If you've got a problem with that then feel free to email me, or steph, for that matter.
Hey guys! It's Friday! Loosen the hell up!! Hardware, good call. Threesomebody, way to stick up for our guy Jake. Twiki, anyone and everyone's opinion is welcomed here as long as it isnt a personal vendetta of course. And Jake, keep up the good work! There, does everybody feel better?
Please tell me who is in your avatar pic...I love those kind of shots. [/quote]
Yeah, so do I. The lady is Wanda Curtis. [/quote]
Hi Hardware,
Can you please tell me if that avatar pic of yours is in the 'public domain'? I'd like to find a larger sized version if possible. Maybe you have a URL?
"Childish" was inappropriate and inaccurate for what I wrote.
Come up with a real criticism. I am anxious to see something that pertains to what I said. If you can't think of anything, then fucking settle already.
Twig wrote:O.K., first of all, if someone/anyone has a valid criticism of any of my movies, I have no problem whatsoever with that. You think it was shot badly, lit badly, there was no chemistry, the male talent had no mojo, contrived set-ups, same couch over and over...whatever...fine. No problem with any of that whatsoever.
If someone thinks my stuff shows a "lazy and uninspired" effort, that could be taken as one person's critical opinion about my movies. Fine.
But that is NOT what we're talking about here.
To call me personally, a misogynist, a woman hater, IS a direct PERSONAL insult! And then, when someone who feels differently about my stuff voices their opinion, their opinion is called, "retarded bullshit" !
That's not a "critical opinion"...that's a fucking insult!
And by the way, anyone who actually watched "Fuck Slaves" would know that it's not just women on the sub side of the equation. There is a scene where a six foot four male gets bitch slapped, ridden like a pony, face fucked and then ass-fucked with a strap-on, by a girl who weighs eighty pounds. So that whole attack on the movie, that "it's only women" who get roughed up is more bullshit.
And to sling thinly veiled inferences that I am an anti-semite? (see above)
Now you're beginning to PISS ME OFF!
That casting Tony T and Joanna Angel together is some kind of sick arab/Israeli, anti-semite joke?
That, my friend, is, again, a fucking PERSONAL insult. The lowest kind of personal insult. Implying that I intentionally set up a situation where a girl who happens to be from Germany , ( and by the way, they switch the dom role back and forth. But again, that would only be apparent to someone who actually WATCHED the movie.) is in a scene with a girl who happens to be of Israeli descent to make some kind of Nazi/Jew joke? ( By the way, Naomi and Annette got along famously)
Hardware, how the "F" do you get , "someone's critical opinion of my work" out of that??!!
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