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As with all 'critical opinions' of the female form, it's not welcome. No one really cares if you 'don't' like how a woman looks, so just go look elsewhere.
Just keep in mind everyone, such as me here models can view and read this forum so lots of love and positivity is appreciated. Be mindful of that with future Models introduced on FTV as well please. I remember getting on here and seeing the negative comments about my breasts and feeling a slight sting, but I expected it and got over it very easily... but not all models are that way, one negative comment can crush their sweet little fairy world. Remember that FTV is our first adult experience as models and for some, such as Charlotte, their only adult experience so it's a very big deal. Yes when exposing ourselves we should expect both positive and negative reactions, but I'm asking everyone here to be considerate of our feelings when sharing those reactions in public forums such as this. Thank you.
Serenity is a 19 year old new girl with a model profile at Black Rose Talent. She looks like she has done some modeling, very pretty!! https://twitter.com/serenityspearsx http://www.blackrosetalent.com/serenity-spears/
On to more new girls. Averie is a first timer, but will be doing hardcore in the industry. She's an athletic 22 year old, played soccer, and has some really sexy thighs/legs. She had some nice orgasms, sexy public nudity, kinky anal, and even managed to fist herself.
Damn lucky that she's doing more hardcore stuff in the industry! @ to Rob about Charlotte. Personally, although she's a total stunner, I generally prefer updates with more penetration. So even though she looked great, the actual videos weren't too interesting for my tastes.
In Charlotte's last update there was a slight accident at the end of her peeing scene, where she pooped a bit (or was it blood?). Either way, appreciate Rob for not cutting it out. Such accidents are part and parcel of the industry I guess, and we wouldn't mind watching the odd accident as long as it's purely accidental. An outtakes section containing all such accidents and bloopers can be an alternative if there are a significant number of such scenes. :-)
Wow Rob, sometimes you hit it out of the park with these updates.. I cannot WAIT for this Averie update. I went to the preview page but the vid preview link doesn't seem to be working :( I went here: http://www.ftvgirls.com/mod2017/averie.html When you get a chance, could you fix it? Thanks a ton. Looking forward to this update being released, along with FTV X.
Eh, I don't know..why can't he provide critical feedback? In almost every one of the other threads on this forum, critical feedback is given, sometimes in a much nastier manner.. Just because some of the models come on here, we can't say what we like or don't like? I mean it's not the worst thing for someone who presumably pays to tell the guy providing the content that he/she is not happy with said content. Props to Rob for being an active part of this thread, it makes giving feedback much, much easier. Could the message be delivered in a nicer format? Sure, but I don't think we should be discouraging negative feedback. Rob doesn't do this for free, the girls don't model for free. We pay a premium to access the content on the site. So as consumers, we should be able to express our dissatisfaction without fear of reprisal from the rest of the members. If our tv or cell service sucks, we have no problem complaining about it. Why can't we say what we do or don't like in regards to FTV and the models without people getting bothered? It doesn't make sense to me. I always cringe when forum ruling elites shout down folks who provide honest feedback.
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2017 : 3:13PM
^ Read the forum etiquete. rules This forum has rules that were not created by the members. You don't like them, find a forum with rules you like. If you find violations on other threads you can send a mod a PM to help them find the violations. Then they will handle it. I am happy to see bragy2008 edited the post to take out the offensive comments. Edited by - tripper on 8/7/2017 3:17:13 PM
First off I would like to start out and say thanks for editing out the part where you called me trailer trash (which nobody has labeled me in my entire life, I'm an independent woman with two degrees and her own brand new car and townhouse, meanwhile I run my own business and work for myself completely at the age of nineteen) then proceeded with "no offense" then realized you were an asshole after the fact someone had to call you out on it, but yet still had to falsely accuse me of having fake boobs. How sad you sleep better at night degrading and picking apart young girls. Says more about you than me sir, have a good one, by the way, they are totally real. God bless.
^^^ A lot of it is in how the feedback is given. Rob has listened to suggestions and feedback, and acted on it at times. One example I remember is his bringing Meghan back for a special dance update when people expressed disappointment that there wasn't a dance sequence in her second update. Edited by - Jsmih on 8/7/2017 7:43:51 PM
alsobob wrote: ^^ On that note bob, we also have the right to negate nagative expressions that have been made. Yes you bought your membership just as you buy your coffee at Starbucks, but instead of treating the model as you would an employee some people get confused and treat the model like the coffee... "ick, not enough ice.." or "ugh too much caramel"... we models are not objects, we provide entertainment for you and if you are not entertained then understood, but it is not necessary for you to pick apart our body and natural features. Is it within your right of free speech to do so? Certainly, but it is without courtesy nor respect. If one shows disrespect you can defend his opinion just as we can object it with an unwelcome response. That is the battle between your own conscious. The Starbucks employee for example could have a lazy eye, but you don't call the employee out on it to his face because it is rude, same concept here. All I ask is to know the difference between what is "right" and what is wrong. -thanks Edited by - melody on 8/7/2017 7:39:36 PM
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erik2690 Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2017 : 8:33PM
I said it earlier but feel the need to say it again because I feel bad that models are seeing negative stuff posted, I really enjoyed the Charlotte update and would love to see her return (and if I'm being honest would also love to see an FTVx scene).
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amalamanhado Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2017 : 10:01PM
Charlotte's body and face are amazing and her boobs are simply magnificent, if someone cannot see how natural they are, either he has only seen and touched fake boobs or he has never touched any boobs whatsoever. Tattoos are not my cup of tea, but for a girl like her an exception has to be made.
I feel that the last post of Melody is perfect. Kudos for that. It describes exactly where the line gets crossed between critical feedback and hurtful personal attacks, and why that shouldn't happen.
Stella reminds me of Danielle FTV a bit. The soccer star reminds me of an Italian girl I was friends with in college. As for all the negativity - listen up, Rob shut down his FTV forum a few years ago because crap like this was happening. If you want to see and hear more from him, I would humbly suggest to cut it or he'll just walk away - much like the models will. I personally like hearing from them without them having to defend their bodies or their reasoning to do what they do. While the occasional troll and shamer are part of the occupational hazards of entering adult entertainment, models and porn stars are still people who live and breathe the same as you and I do. Don't spread misery around, there's plenty of porn and entertainment for everyone. Use your little mouse and just click into a different thread. Don't act like you have command of FTVGirls, because you don't and you won't. Constructive criticism and honest feedback are important when it comes to the actual scene. Suggesting a certain body type is probably welcome I'm sure - but ad hominem attacks on a particular model for the way she looks is downright stupid, hurtful, and doesn't serve anyone here. The passive-aggressive nature of "just sayin'" or "no offense" should immediately induce something in someone's logic that a) what you're about to say isn't nice and any kind of preface to be nice is foolish b) you probably shouldn't say it and keep it to yourself. Being a keyboard jockey takes 0 ounces of courage. While it may make your dick hard, it usually leaves you alone, tactless, and miserable. As I said, I personally like hearing from the models - their experiences, their lives, and what makes them, the website, and their videos work. I come and lurk here to read that. I find it fascinating and it never hurts that the videos are hot as hell - and some are more hot than others but that's my personal taste. Rob's work now has spanned over a decade and he's done well. He'll probably continue to do well and certain folks account for taste (or lack thereof) is not going to change that. The models that he's had the opportunity to shoot will continue to craft their own fate and we are all just lucky enough to see them at their beginnings. Think of all the gorgeous women, present company included, that we've had the opportunity to see in pure, unadulterated bliss with little to no filters (edited for time constraints I'm sure) for our entertainment. If I ever were to have the opportunity to work in the adult business, Rob's model would be one to aspire to and learn from and not belittle him or the models who want to come work for him. Yes, it's a job. Yes, you pay for a cup of coffee like you pay for your porn. However, coffee doesn't equal people so don't use the straw man argument to say such - it's bad logic. Next, just like there are coffee shops all over to sample from - if you don't like one, move on to another. There are plenty waiting in line for you to take your bitching somewhere else so they can stand in line to enjoy their cup of coffee. We don't need to hear your "review."
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 8 2017 : 3:24PM
Critical comments have no place on this board. The best way to provide a comment, if you feel you must, is by providing feedback using the site feedback email address and providing them enough info so they know you are a member. A couple of weeks ago I sent New Sensations some feedback providing my user name and sending it from the email address I used to sign up to the site. They knew I was a paying member and a day and a half later I got a polite response. When comments are made on this forum, sites have no idea whether or not the commenter is even a paying member. Don't air your dirty laundry in public. Edited by - tripper on 8/8/2017 3:28:46 PM
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eleantra Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 9 2017 : 8:29AM
i will be honest I am a paying member of ftv and yet i have gotten no response to several messages I have sent rob lately. Used to be that i would get a response in a day or two but now nothing. It is very disheartning as he provides great content but then chooses not to respond to his paying customers. Wish that he had a forum board on his site where members could chat with him/models but alas no luck there either.
As I said in my novel, it used to exist but Rob shut it down because even the paying members bitched and complained too much. He's launching FTVX next month, so I can imagine he's not really concerned with answering all of his emails at this time. Remember, it's still mostly a 1-man operation.
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 10 2017 : 5:30PM
You all have to realize that Rob is a succesful, independant, business man. He has made tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions off of his work and his site. He created something unique that has a demand. He comes onto this board to promote his site, not for social interaction. If this board goes negative, he just won't come here anymore, negative won't promote his business. We benefit from him being here and some of his models being here because we get info we will not get other places. We also have to realize that with FTVX coming out, Rob is probably winding down. He has had these videos on his hard drive for years. He has made a lot, drives a million dollar car, and may choose in a couple of years to hang it up. Having said that, he may choose to go the route of Pierre Woodman, who only stays in the game to bang young, hot chicks and uses the site today for a tax write off. Cheers
^ You should become better educated before you reply with a rediculous response like that. You can look back through the thread and there is information about his paid membership levels. The man drives a Bugatti, has a degree in dentistry, and has developed a hugely suuccesful business. I certainly doubt you even have hundreds of millions of pennies.
^ First of all, hundreds of millions of pennies is still millions of dollars. Second of all, to generate 100 million dollars of revenue (not profit, just revenue) at $30 per month he would have to have averaged 18,000 members a month for the past 15 years.
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 10 2017 : 7:12PM
^ The numbers discussed were 30,000 members. I can't verify it's true. That is why I said in my post "tens of millions if not hundreds of millions". It seems pretty clear to me he has made tens of millions. My statement did not claim he has made hundreds, it simply implied he may have.
^^^ ^ No need to be defensive, my man. I'm only pointing out that it's a bit ridiculous to think anyone in porn could have made "hundreds of millions" of dollars doing what they do. Hundreds of millions of dollars means at least $200 million or more. Even after expenses (which, because the models are usually doing solo or g/g scenes, aren't astronomically high), he'd still presumably have a huge profit margin. Far too huge to actually not spend a few grand, I don't know, getting an editor so that FTVX gets released sooner?
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 10 2017 : 7:28PM
^ You should learn to read english better and not be defensive, or attacking, yourself. You throw up a silly post, with a laughing face, and that is attacking my post. You don't know what you're talking about and I will dis-regard your future posts. Cheers fellow poster.
^ Well ok then.. In other news, Stella's scene was great! Notably, the part where she poses the different positions she likes during sex was really good. Would like to see similar stuff in future updates.
I'm girly, so I personally really liked Stella's vocal touch in her update. Just imagine a girl like that singing just for you. I think personal talents like that are super sexy.
Elantra: I would respond to you daily, sometimes multiple times a day, for what felt like a year or so? But when you start asking about getting model's contact info, I cannot give that to you.
FTV peaked at 33,000 active members in 2008; but with everything free porn, its now about 1/3 of that. So my income does 'dry up' relatively speaking. Anyway, back to girls; a new one that the LA shooter just completed last weekend, Gracie: I'm just now going through the photos and building the coverpage.
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 10 2017 : 10:08PM
Sweet. Is Gracie going to go into hardcore bg work?