So while I will continue to vote in this years polls I am looking forward much more so to the Rog's Critics Awards.

I too will continue, even though I kinda lost interest. Rog's critic award should be more honest in my opinion, seeing is how Rog is a porn authority.

---BIGmike, going and going and going since MCMLXXX---

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I don't think you should give up on the poll just yet Rog I just think you need to simplify the poll. I think it can be reasonably said that the field can stand to be narrowed at the beginning of the process. I think you should only nominate girls that are deserving of the award to begin with. I realize it would be difficult, but surely of the 64 girls we started with at least two thirds should be taken out. I'm not trying to criticize the current structure, because it is quite an elegant system under the assumption that it gets a representative cross section of voters, but it obviously does not.

May be just have two rounds next year with eight pornstars nominated. If unrealistic longshots aren't in the poll to begin with there is no way they are going to take out performers that are obviously more popular.

However is it does end up as a battle between Britni and Jenna for the title at least the worlds most popular pornstar will win the popularity contest.

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Well, I'm not all that happy. With Drew's help we got rid of the worst cheating from last year so that's great. We are working on ways to reduce the number of outside votes, but no system is perfect. I think it is clear that a Britni/Jenna final is what we will have. Does that represent the readers of my site? Of course not. However, these women are NOT breaking the rules.

Cutting down the field is an idea. The problem is that I would have to put all personal feelings aside and pick say the best 16 according to reader feedback. I have a bit of a problem in that I wouldn't pick the 'right' 16....someone will always feel left out. (Angry Felecia emails this year.)

As for Bella and Gauge, I don't want to give it away but I can say that AT LEAST one of those two women will be one of the 6 nominees for Best Female Performer.

The Critic's Choice Awards are almost ready. My question now is what to do about a possible rule I'm giving myself. I nominate 6 movies for Best Feature, 6 for Best All Sex and 6 for Best DVD. I'm thinking of making each movie only eligible for one category. So a Best Feature can't be up for Best DVD. Why? Because some of the best DVDs I've seen this year were for movies that weren't released in 2002. Thoughts?

Also, should I be like Major League Baseball and announce the nominees one category at at time over eight days or throw them out there at once?

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I will continue to use your site as reference, and will continue to use it, as I do ADT.

But it does suck when outside voters come in and vote, without ever having read a single review. But if some of them stick around and keep coming back, then that is always a good thing.

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Sadly, those answers are now tougher to figure out. It's a nice sign for Rog's growing place in the porn world, though, that performers see his poll as worth rigging. That may be one reason he's justifiably a bit less upset than we are about it.

As far as the critic's awards, Rog... I say announce them all at once. No reason to keep us in suspense. And I think multiple nominations is fine. If a great movie happens to get a great DVD package, why should you have to deny it one of those awards just for some arbitrary rule? If it's the best (or one of the six best) in both, we should know that's how you feel.

One thing I would suggest if you continue next year in some form despite all the BS: Why not add movies to the polls? Obviously I trust you to do a much better job of picking the candidates than, say, AVN.

Edited by - ObiBong on 12/9/2002 3:06:30 PM

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As for the multiple nominations thing, my biased vote ( goes to allowing it. Whatever year the DVD is released, it can get nominated for that year.

So, for example, if you liked Euphoria from Wicked, last year, the VHS would have been eligible for Best Feature, and this year, the DVD would be eligivle for Best DVD.

It's a nice way to recognize it as being one of the best. Doesn't mean you have to pick it as the winner in both categories.

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Obviously it's not representative of your site, and if this bums you out, then if you can't figure out a way to make it actually be representative of readers of your site, then don't feel obligated to do it.

For some of the people who made it to the second and third rounds to knock out some of the people who have gotten knocked out (ie - Bella and Gauge), then that doesn't even seem representative of any true cross-section of fans.

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I was personally crushed that Taylor St. Claire got no farther along in the RogPoll running than she did. She's been incredibly fun and sexy in every scene I've seen of hers this year, and "Fashionistas" only certified how great she is. That *outfit* in the first sequence alone! She has the most fun pair of tits, and it's great when directors really know how to appreciate them. Combined with her wicked, troublemaking persona, and, well, everything else that she has going on, and I don;t see why she doesn't have her own balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade.

Ah well ... it's *just* a poll.

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I also think that it makes sense that the final race will be between the woman who performed the most scenes in the most extreme ways and the woman who sold the most videos.

Many of you are "sad" or "upset" by the female performer race. I suggest that no matter who would have won, someone would have been disappointed that their favorite didn't win. But this year you have a common focus for your disdain in the form of Britni.

Jenna is the most famous pornstar to ever exist. This poll has been thoroughly discussed here, RAME, Rog's site, and other places I'm sure. This poll is not wanting for publicity in the world of internet porn connoisseurs. Let's not forget that if Britni wins it will not be because voters didn't know who anyone else was. It will not be because Britni had some kind of unfair advantage. She's against Jenna "The Juggernaut" Jameson, for pete's sake.

I am interested in knowing how Rog and Drew determined that a lot of Jenna and Britni voters had never been to Rog's site before. Also, we're getting into a Bush/Gore situation here. If Britni wins, but Jenna gets more votes than all the women in 3.2 combined, will it be fair that Jenna doesn't advance?

My final thought is this: let's not forget the largesse of the porn world. 10000+ releases a year and an uncountable number of stars actively working around the world. To you who are upset that someone you're not familiar with is winning: is it really hard to imagine that even we deddicted fans who saw 50-200 pornos in the past year would have missed someone? Even someone great?

The enemy of sexually powerful women is shame. The enemy of sexually powerful men is aggression.

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On the point about missing a great performer, I'm a firm believer that porn is in the eye of the beholder, so if some people think that Britni is all that and a bag of chips, that's cool. But when people I know watch a hell of a lot of porn say either "who is she?" or "you've got to be kidding me," I would tend to think that she's more of a niche player.

We've got a very diverse cross-section of porn watchers on this forum, and what strikes me is that there are only seven thread hits on a search of "bisexual britni" in this forum prior to November, compared to around 15 more in the past month (most of which are talking about Rog's poll). I doubt that you'll find anyone in Rog's poll that has fewer mentions in this forum.

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BTW, the top two finishers in each bracket advance to the next round. I assume that will be Britni and Jenna in round 3.1/

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Don't ya just love fan favorite polls? They're as much fun as a night of binging on Ex-lax.

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True, I forgot who she was, only seen her once. But she did email me, telling me she was in a few Extreme Associates VHS, I said I don't buy VHS, then told her that Extreme wasn't the greatest quality discs, and that I will NOT buy an Extreme DVD 'til I see some improvements. So that is why I had only seen her once.

Drew:
They're as much fun as a night of binging on Ex-lax.

Wow, you really know how to party... ... I wouldn't worry about anything said elsewhere about you either, because you know, and we know, that this and Rog's site, are the best websites around.

---BIGmike, going and going and going since MCMLXXX---

Edited by - BIGmike on 12/11/2002 11:13:56 AM

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What you described, Jenna getting more votes than the winner of bracket 2 is good proof of your first question. I have done these polls for years and I've noticed that when one bracket has three times the votes of the other for the same award, something is up. Sure people care more about Best Female than Best Compay, but most of the other races are balanced. When people pop in, vote in one bracket and leave, it is a fair bet that these people are coming in from an email or a pop up. They are not readers of the site. None of this is against the rules and maybe some of the will stick around, but not many.

Thanks for the interest. I hope this clears it up.

Congratulations to Britni. I want to be the first to congratulate her on winning the poll.

Fear not, the Critic's Choice nominees come out later today. On my site and ADT first :-)

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The difference of course is that a lot of ADT readers are also RR readers. (And I appreciate every last one of ya)

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3 for Rog's Critics Choices!!!

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