I know it has been said before that trying to capture a womans orgasm on tape is a very difficult thing to do. I wish the people who make these films would put more emphasis on this subject. Whether it is self pleasuring or couple sex, real orgasms are so much better, and it makes things so much more interesting to watch. So many interesting changes occur, and every woman reacts differently, contrary to the typical male response....."womans orgasms"....."who cares"..... Perhaps we need some female directors in regards to making these movies, put a new perspective on everything, a bit of change never hurt anyone......E
....I guess my reason for creating this topic is because so many reviews end the same way....."faked female orgasms"....I kind of feel that this is a shame, the men always seem to be satisfied, but we are always left wondering about the women, my girlfriend and I take bets as to whether the womens orgasms in porn movies are faked or not, and for the most part, there are not many real orgasms. I learned a lot about female sexuality, when I read "The Hite Report"(study of female sexuality) by Shere Hite. Any man that wants to improve his sex life with women should read this book. If you are truly devoted to your sexual partner, this book will provide a lot of insight.......As for the movies, we will just have to wait and see what happens.....E
Ellis there is a little discussion on this topic at this thread . Violet Blue in her book The Ultimate Guide to Adult Videos (Cleis Press) identifies adult films in which real female orgasms occur. I recommend the book highly.
Adult films that probably wouldn't even be considered "real" porn by the seasoned viewers here at ADT often focus and capture women's pleasure and orgasms. My partner and I enjoy programs made by the Alexander Institute for just that reason.
Tony Comstock's Marie and Jack, A Hardcore Love Story lovingly shows real people enjoying themselves, real orgasms and all.
I enjoy watching male pleasure too, but it's apt to make me feel a little left out and unsatisfied if we see little or no focus on the woman's pleasure. Not unlike being in bed with a crappy lover!
Find producers who make what you like to see, support them, give them feedback and let others know about their work.
But the wild things cried, "Oh please don't go- we'll eat you up-we love you so!" Where The Wild Things Are, Maurice Sendak
I think one of the reasosn that there aren't many female orgasms in porn is that most women need a little more time than a man to work up to orgasm, and with the way porn is shot (all the stoping and starting for photos and different positions etc) doesn't allow that time. Funny though, that there is always time for the "major" act of every porn scene - the male cum shot. It is difficult for a woman to achieve orgasm from penetration alone, but many directors don't like having much in the way (toys, hands whatever) when the in and out action is occuring. Pussy eating in porn is rarely depicted in the way that really makes girls come. Just sticking your tongue on a pussy like your licking a lemon doesn't an orgasm make. It'd be awesome if there were more movies that showed real pussy licking, the kind that really does give women orgasms. You only have to look at how powerful vibrators are to gauge the intesity needed to achieve orgasm. A good idea would be to have a woman use a vibrator to the point of near orgasm and then have the guy come in and lick her pussy hard for a while. That's a lot hotter than watching a guy straining to jerk himself off to pop.
....I must say that "kitty kat" does have the right idea, thats the kind of change that should happen. Internal Combustion 3.......I read the review and it is very good, my girlfriend is a Mark Davis fan as well, of course Cyntherea takes us to a whole new level of orgasm, but yes it is a must see. We won't get started on whether F.E. is real or not, I think it is real, but lots of people will disagree on that subject.....E
......oops.....Cytherea......spelled her name wrong the last time, kept thinking there was an "R" in her name. Is she the actress who has been compared to Natalie Portman??????E
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Posted - May 9 2004 : 12:05PM
Yes, I do share that opinion too.
IMHO that would always need 2 different camera angles to really work for me. One angle always showing the face of the girl, and the other angle wandering around, from here to there.
Too sad producers/directors do not really care for what only very few users would like to see.
....My God....I must be suffering from some kind of brain cloud this morning.....Cytherea.....No "N" in her name.....don't know what I was thinking......E
WOW.....I have just ordered Internal Combustion 3 and am so glad that this has been brought up. It is always nice to see a guy enjoying "the moment" and always disapointing to hear the woman announcing that "I'm cumming" and then see what can only be a very fake experience! How true......"Funny though, that there is always time for the "major" act of every porn scene - the male cum shot. " I guess if more people demand it, they will make it.
Ha, ha! In another life I would love to be a porn director. I have so many great ideas for scenes. Unfortunately I don't have much of a clue on the more technical aspects of filmmaking. :(
This should be on the Walter Burns quote parade, how true!
There was a thread about 2-3 months ago on the porn pool, about too many double penetration scenes in most films nowadays. It came up during the discussion that most male viewers aren't interested in real female orgasms, or even if they see them, don't know enough to recognize them. Many male fans think a woman either caterwauling at the top of her lungs, or squirting a quart of liquid out of her genitals is having a real orgasm.
There is a scene in RLD's Sport Fucking 1, with a Czech actress Tera Joy with Steve Holmes and Erik Everhard. She has about 7-10 of the real kind of orgasm, where her face gets flushed, her whole body tenses up, and she momentarily stops talking. Out of the 7 reviews of that film that I could locate, one man noticed the multiple orgasms, one man thought she might have had "one" orgasm, and the rest didn't noticed them at all. I bet a lot of guys watching the scene were thinking, "What wrong with this chick? Why can't she lay still, she's thrashing about like a dying fish?"
Most porn directors, even the female ones, don't care about this whole subject, or even about general female pleasure. I think it's too elusive for them to worry about, they know most fans (male) don't care, and so they don't emphasize it.
There are even some porn actresses I watch, who are so blase about their sex scenes, that I have to wonder, "Has this woman ever had an orgasm during sex? Has this woman ever had an orgasm, period?" The person who most reminds me of this is Taylor Rain. She's incredibly popular with porn fans, but she practically sleep walks through her scenes.
Say, I wonder if any porn directors are reading this thread? Maybe they'll get the hint.
.....Hey at least we are on the right track....expessing an opinion on what we would like to see is a step in the right direction. And to Kitty Kat.....I look forward to checking out "Internal Cumbustion 3"......I have been waiting for it on the dish, might just have to buy it though.....it should be a worth while purchase since I like brunettes anyway, and besides...there is nothing better than watching a woman working herself up to a powerful orgasm, and I might add that most powerful orgasms are not picture perfect as the movies would like us all to believe......realistic is so much better than fake.....E
This thread has touched on so many topics that are "near and dear" to my heart that I hardly know where to begin.....I am going to sound like a man here when I say that I am not sure if I have ever seen a genuine female orgasm.....my own excluded of course!!! And from the responses of the other ladies here I am confident that I am not alone in my distaste of sooooo many anal and facial cum shots. All is fair in love, war and sex but all things in moderation would be a nice change. So many flicks follow such a predictable pattern.....blow job, a couple of conventional postions, doggy, anal, and for the grand finale.....all over her face. BORING!!! I also have to thank those of you who have recomended several great flicks for my entertainment.....I have had to order them and am waiting impatiently for them to arrive.....if they are half as good as you all have said I will have more to say......when I have time that is........might take a while to pry myself away......
Wanna see a real female orgasm? Watch Joey Silvera's Shemale road trip 7 where Tranny Vicki Richter makes a real pretty girl shake. Now that's a real orgasm.