Just out of random curiosity, what female porn stars were (or are) known for performing while seriously under the influence of drugs or alcohol -- to the point it was a major contributor to their on-screen performance. Giggly, hyper, spaced, manic, drunk, rowdy, etc.
I guess I'm wondering how I would know they're high. Maybe all that giggly, hyper, spaced, manic, drunk, rowdy behavior is just their personality? Er....
this is a great question! glad you bought it up. I often wonder how many of these babes needs to be totally high in order to be fucking mind blowing fantastic and be so sexed up!
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Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 2:57PM
Jayna Oso once seemed to be on drugs (Unnatural Sex 10 for example). Some others too I guess (from what I've seen). Taking two dicks up the ass without being on anything is pretty admirable...
Jenna Haze and Taylor Rain are 2 well known performing potheads.
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john thomas Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 3:29PM
Penny Flame is well known for her love of the herb and that preference was used as the central trope of Shane's World's Blazed and Confused series. That said, I have never seen Penny give a performance that was anything less than professional. There are several German porn series that focus on getting women drunk and then performing outrageous acts. I find that very distasteful - what next, rohypnol porn? But I assume it is all consensual in reality, so if you want some titles I will look them up for you.
this is only speculation obviously, but I've often wondered if Tory Lane is on drugs in some of her scenes. Her scene in Un-Natural Sex 19 stands out in particular. She's pulling a lot of odd faces, gurning like she's taken cocaine or ecstasy, and seems generally out of it at times. Especially near the end of the scene where she jumps in the pool.
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Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 7:01PM
I'd go with Penny Flame as well. She looks a bit lit in Lethal Hardcore's, "Natural Teen Nymphs". I see no problem in loosening up with a little Wacky Tabbaki
Leah Luv gets high with Tony Eveready in Bootylicious: Little Freaky White Bitches from JM Productions. They smoke some bud right before he lays the smackdown on her butthole. This stellar title also stars Hillary Scott, Haley Scott and Cristina Agave all taking black meat up their sweet little booties. Highly recommended!
During the "Golden Age" of porn (1970s, 80s) Laurie Smith once said that neither she or Shuana Grant ever did a scene when they were NOT high. Since these early "pioneers" of porn embraced the "hippie" mentality & lifestyle, there are many accounts saying they smoked lots of dope. Before, during, and after scenes. By the late 1990s many girls were getting into porn for the money only--and secretly hated their work (Too many to name). Drugs and alcohol use, as a way of "getting through a scene," seemed to really increase as a result. On most porn (and mainstream) sets no one cares if performers have a drink or two to "loosen up." But, since most girls can't perform while high--and directors will send home girls who can't perform--few show up on set zonked. But, if the day is long, by the final few takes, numerous drinks or "smoke breaks," may have taken there toll. The same goes for still photo shoots with internet website photographers. As for names, most performers who continuously work manage to keep their drug & drink issues under control. So, one way to figure out who habitually performs while high, is to see who's not working very much. Bottom line: most porners have enough free time, off set, to indulge their habits--good and bad. They don't need to do it on a shoot and risk their income.
It seems that alot of pornstars are on crack while performing on the camera especially the more hardcore videos like gangbangs, shallowing multiple shots, DPs. It real make sense if you think about it because these scense are degrading and while on drugs it passes quickly.
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Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 10:32PM
eh theres nothing wrong with smoking pot before anything unless ur really trying to remember somthing. the only prob for porn chicks i could see with it is there eyes being too red. but who cares? as for other drugs id say its a no no. if u have to be fucked up to do porn then maye ur n the wrong business. its sad to see beautiful girls ruin their looks with meth or crack or heroin, you know the hardcore shit. even drinking heavily makes you look older and haggard. but thats just me, i would hope these beautiful women would have better sense than to do drugs.
I heard an interview with Kacey explaining how well a gang-bang shoot went because everyone was relaxed after a few drinks. No Problem there but there have been others who admitted to drinking as a means to just get through a scene. There is a Max Hardcore scene that showed a Scottish girl absolutely stoned on something speaking incoherently and cursing at him and his crew. She was definitely not in a good mood. My question is more geared towards the guys who seemed to be on something. The scenes where they just jack-hammer the girls for 30minutes and then need to jack-off to ejaculate. The "lick my ass" and aggressive slapping The pointless poking around in the girls mouth and vag. Sorta reminds me of someone out of control on steroids or stimulants. Don't want to turn the thread into something else but I would also say that some of the male performers are a lot more guilty of substance abuse than the girls.
I get the impression that Taylor "mother fucking" Rain spends as little time as possible not high. I seriously doubt it would be possible to shoot her straight. Much as it would be impossible to have a conversation with her straight. Or you know, walk across the street or go to the zoo with her straight. Or eat Thanksgiving dinner with her straight.
I have never been drunk or high during any of my scenes ...if i felt i needed to do it "just to get through it" then i shouldn't do it. Porn isn't the dentist office ...you shouldn't dread the acts that you do. I enjoy the "degradation" and the intensity and sexually energy that is volleyed . It's like with BDSM the body produces endorphins and that does feel great ...like a drug at times but i don't need that to get off it's an accessory ... people think slapping and spiting and that kind of "harder" role playing is degrading...well if you don't like that sort of sporting life then sure it is but if you really honestly enjoy the small mind fucks then how can it be degrading... i just goes to show there are still massive amounts about human sexuality that we still don't/won't understand ... "l just wanna keep rock'n and roll'n ..." the fuck junkie ♠ Edited by - sashagrey on 10/29/2007 3:23:11 PM
Nice post Sasha - reminds me of watching Fashionistas. It was the roughest thing I had seen at the time and it raised a few issues for me. At risk of sounding like a complete dork, the commentary track helped focus and address many of those thoughts. Heavily impaired performers aren't able to recognize their (and their partner's) limits, gain pleasure from pushing/addressing those limits, or feel comfortable after about having done so. To address the OP: I've always wondered about Debi Diamond. This is by no means an attempt to tarnish her reputation (she's an ATF) but I've always wondered if she had a taste for the nose candy. Perhaps I'm completely ignorant and this is a well known fact... or maybe I'm just guilty of stereotyping? Either way, I've always wondered about that.
I think back to the fictional "Boogie Nights". What a mess it was dealing with O/D's and nose bleeds. Then there is the guys who cant get wood. I think its like other recreational things we encounter. Many like to drink beer and watch football, party up and go to a see a band live. But dont try to drink beer priorto a game and play in the NFL every week. Or go on the road and drink or party every night with a band and expect it to work night after night.(mabey not the best example...) Preformers bring life to the party, but they cant be THE party all the time. There is to much at stake. All this is not to say it doesnt go on, but there is insurance to buy, equipment and real estate to rent. and to loose all that because the "talent did a little too much" that day, couldnt fly day in and day out. Add to that the ego's and it quickly becomes toxic.
I read in last months Hustler, that Hillary Scott is always blazin in her personal life, in scenes though I don't know if she does. I feel that even if you are having sex in multiple takes or short time lengths, even a minor orgasm especially the build up to one is as stimulating as any drug so why take or use anything before a scene. Sex is better than any drug out there, those who disagree, you ain't doing it right.
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Posted - Oct 29 2007 : 8:32PM
i am not sure weed is really a problem, i bet some girls take a lot of pain pills to get through some of the DPs and stuff
Weed is an enhancement for sex the same way salt and pepper are enhancements for meat. Of course, it should be good meat in the first place but nobody is gonna smack the salt and pepper out of your hand and send you on a guilt trip over it. Of course, like all good things, you can overdo it on pot but otherwise, I'd rather the girls be high on pot then meth or coke or be drunk.
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Posted - Oct 29 2007 : 10:52PM
You seem to generally know what you're talking about Derek but this strikes me as very naive. Interview after interview suggests that a lot of performers, in the past and today, perform while fucked up.
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Posted - Oct 29 2007 : 10:55PM
I agree i like pot for sex it enhances the orgasm. Meth and other hard drugs are destructive and shouldn't be grouped with weed.
My point is if they can't perform, they won't continue to get work. My experience is that performers who always use booze or drugs while on a set tend to over-do it. This will eventually cost them work. BTW, the most stoned I've ever seen a performer was a scene from a Rocco "Animal Trainer" euro-production, with Alissa a blonde, thin, barely 20 year old Ukraine girl who worked in porn during the early 2000s (mostly for euro porn company, Private). Her eyes were as big as saucers, and kept closing throughout the scene...and I'm pretty sure she passed out a couple of times. But Rocco fucked her very small asshole with the fury of a madman, throughout this very long scene. He completely ignored the fact that her mind was on another planet. I'd bet my Harley that she doesn't remember this scene.
I'd bet ten bucks that the individual scenes become a blur for most porn stars (stoned or not) after a few years. You can only do one thing the same way for so long before it all merges together. That goes for anything. Of course, getting assfucked by Rocco when he's in his jackhammer mode might be something someone would recall for a while.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 12:28AM
I think most scenes are pretty meaningless for the performers. I know I would be barred out if I was taking multiple dicks in my ass...that's just me though.
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Breetai Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 1:58AM
Just to clarify, I'm not so much interested in the potheads and other "she's spaced out all the time" performers. I'm thinking of those memorable "holy shit she was FUCKED UP in that scene!" kind of things... stuff that is way outside the norm to the point of being comical. It's the equivalent of enjoying NASCAR crashes... you truly hope nobody's hurt, but it's so much more interesting to see 20 cars turned into scrap instead of just turning left for several hours.I'm glad you're into the role-playing aspect of it. But I'm curious how you can approach something like DP's and huge cocks in your ass with such objectivity.
Breetai Wrote I'm glad you're into the role-playing aspect of it. But I'm curious how you can approach something like DP's and huge cocks in your ass with such objectivity. [/quote] huh? Edited by - somguy on 10/31/2007 6:23:45 AM
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Posted - Nov 15 2007 : 4:38PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many people really think we are doing things that hurt us! Why? I would never do anything that hurt or I didn't enjoy. Do the viewers really think we would put our own bodies in pain for their personal enjoyment? Newsflash: DPs feel good. They don't hurt. If a girl is taking painkillers to get though an anal or DP scene or whatever then clearly she shouldn't be doing those type of scenes.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 15 2007 : 7:07PM
I know many get off on anal and DP and these are probably the girls we see over and over. But their are scores of girls we only see a handful of times and the poof they are gone. I am sure in the history of porn some grils ahve done scenes on harder drugs then pot.
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Breetai Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 17 2007 : 12:31AM
Alexis Texas in I Love Ass Cheeks was obviously high on something hard-core like heroin... her voice was weak and slurred, she seemed totally out of it (like she was trying to perform but everything was just happening too fast for her to keep up with), and her eyes were almost shut even when she was trying to look into the camera to say something. The eye thing in particular stood out the most... she wasn't just drunk... she was high on something pretty strong. She also was sweating like CRAZY... although the other girls (and the guys) on the DVD also were sweating to some degree so maybe it was the lights or the temperature on set... and I LOVE sweaty girls anyway...
You sure about that? In some scenes, it's pretty clear that some women are, shall we say, uncomfortable doing a DP. It's especially noticeable in some of the more rough Euro stuff (websites like Asstraffic, DP Fanatics for example). Or even just straight anal. You can sometimes see them wince each time the guy "jabs" his cock in and out during those stupid gaping sequences.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 17 2007 : 9:50AM
is the point of gaping just to show a women in pain? Seems like it