Your handle denotes that you are a new member. I don't know how long you've been lurking, but I can tell you that the over\under on how many posts this thread will last before one of the moderators kills it is probably about ten.

Even though it may be an interesting discussion, and everybody probably has their own example of a porn personality that meets the criteria that you bring up, (me included), the thread starts out on a negative bent, and things generally only get worse from there.

In a forum where many of the stars and industry people participate, the mods don't tolerate a whole lot of piling on, of the talent. Even when it seems relatively tame or benign.

Performance critique and constructive criticism of the talent is one thing, but exercises in negativity, just for negativity's sake is one the mods don't usual let last too
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BSD

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* - Especially if it's one of the big stars that has a big fan base, or if it's one of the performers who participates here.

Edited by - BSD on 9/7/2004 1:30:45 PM

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Here is a list off the top of my head.

Teagan
Courtney Devine
Velvet Rose
Kayla Marie
Delilah
Katie Morgan
Lisa Marie
Angel Eyes
Jenna Jameson
Alex Devine
Sarah Jay

Some of these girl are nothing short than breath taking, but at the same time, they bring zero heat to thier scenes.

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The rest I won't comment on ,cause I know what you're talking about!!!

Velvet Rose being the worst offender...fakes on everything!!!

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Maybe we should take the words Shakespeare put in Cassius' mouth to heart, even if he didn't have porn stars in mind.

Edited by - hardware on 9/7/2004 3:55:46 PM

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"1 2, Who got more style than son do" - Nas

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I ALWAYS look at scenes I'm in if I can get them because I want to see if I could have moved so the camera could see better, could I have gone deeper, could I have aimed differently for the pop... Whatever it takes to improve.

Some will be pissed at a thread like this. The smart ones will be better if their name shows up. :)

dood

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First let me compliment you on taking time to tpost. I would assume that chasin Dem Duke boys, and stopping the illegal transportation of Moonshine accross county lines takes up most of your day.

I guess the beauty of this place is the fact that we are different people from different places, with different faces, and at times, we don't think alike.

I didn't see Service Animals, but in the scenes I'v seen, Kayla has not really moved moved me. Not many young performers bring sexual energy to thier scenes. How many women have told you that they never had an orgasm until thier late 20's? I can't call it, but I just don't buy that many 18 year old performers are coming like they never have before.

I have Feeling Black, and reviewed it here. It's a great series, and I plan on reviewing the 3rd installment next week. Nonetheless, Angel Eyes does not appeal to me at all. I don't find her attractive, and I find her scenes average. The Feeling Black scene was carried by Stefano, and Tina. Doesn't mean she's not a good person, I don't know, but I could name some stars who are not the prettiest women, who bring more heat than Satan.

There's trying, and there's doing. Some might dissagree, but I stand behind my list based on what I have seen.

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i will agree to teagan - she is a beauty but just don't delivers in the performance (but i only saw her in service animals and hellcats - and if joey silvera can't make her be nasty - no one will). i still like her though and have a strage feeling to see something good from her in service animals #18 - she suppose to dominate other girl so maybe she can be nasty...

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But Kayla?!??!?! I must admit I like the way she whines while she's getting banged!

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Well, if the mods are gonna go easy on the itchy trigger fingers, I'm gonna get my two cents in.

I can remember a couple of porn old schoolers that this used to piss me off about.

Tracey Adams

Lovette

I thought both were hot as hell, but I thought both were a little too self-absorbed and mailed in a lot of their performances. The times I really dug Lovette's effort was when she was working with Max Hardcore. Other than that, she left me disappointed.

As for the current crop, I'm gonna address a couple of the names that P.P. mentioned, cuz I think there is a common thread. I think that Courtney Devine, Kayla Marie , and Teagan are all in the same boat. I don't think their performances and screen presence has quite caught up with their fan appeal and potential. I don't think this is their fault. I think they are all very beautiful, but they are all also very young and I think the seasoning process takes a minute. In my opinion, the same holds true for the gorgeous Pandora Dreams . I don't think any of these girls are "lame" performers, but professional polish and the ability to completely lose oneself to the scene, doesn't come overnight.

As for some established folks, I don't think ANYONE is more smoke and mirrors than Jenna Jameson . For years, I've been trying and trying to see what the big deal is, and I just don't see it. Consistently leaves me limp.

And just to prove that I think I can be fair and objective, I agree with P.P's selection of Sara Jay , who is one of my personal ALL TIME FAVORITES. She may be my favorite body in porn, and I have sung her virtues many times in these pages BUT, I agree that her performances are somewhat lacking in heat and the real sparks from her scenes come from the voluptuousness of her body and her male partner's efforts. I've found her much more animated and into it, in her internet porn, (Onion Booty), than in all the pro scenes I've seen her in. Another of my favorites that seems to leave me perplexed, (cuz I love her look and body so, but don't think she really gives her all in performance), is Austin O'Reilly.

You really can tell when a performer is totally oblivious to the camera, really into the sex, and completely gives themselves over to the director, co-star and ultimately, the audience. It results in scorching performances.

Good old school example: Debi Diamond

Good current example: Kami Andrews

But they don't fit in this topic, cuz both of them were\are great performers, AND very attractive.

Smile.

BSD

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Another one whom I think her stunning looks earned her much more porn credibility than her wooden performances deserved:

Sylvia Saint

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How about a porn starlet NOT modifying her behavior for poster A or poster B. She shouldn't, and I as a porn afficianado ain't asking her to. If she does what she can to learn her craft, be a professional, and do the best job she can, to hell with everything else. I don't know anyone that can, nor should they attempt to, please everyone. But most people recognize and appreciate when someone is putting forth an honest effort. There is a whole 'nother thread going where people are doing just that. Extolling the virtues of people who may not have the natural, obvious physical gifts of others, but still are outstanding porn performers.

As long as people don't go out of their way to be mean, or disrespectful, or intentionally hurtful towards the talent that participates here, (that's where you guys come in), I find a discussion like this, (and it's companion one), much more interesting than 10,000 post threads falling all over a young and inexperienced Teagan after she made one movie and appeared at one trade show.

BSD

Edited by - BSD on 9/7/2004 6:58:43 PM

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Chasey Laine

Kira Kerner

Brooke

Jill Kelly

Haven

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On the other hand, I've seen way too many 'hot' looking girls that will do everything on the menu but have never impressed me as being genuinely into it.

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Well, this is off topic, but IMHO you are smokin' hot and you set a standard for other performers.

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Here are description, by three reviewers, of the same scene in a gonzo movie; out of courtesy, I've disguised Actress X's name, though I've never seen her post on ADT:

Reviewer 1 : Actress X was one of the main reasons I checked out this movie, and once again she shows that I was right to do so! X and Dillion turn out another great scene here, with X putting out some great energy and plenty of great ass action. I love the addition of titty fucking here, as X has a great set of gazooms, and best of all she seems to love it all. This is a very nice and very hot scene.

Reviewer 2 : X is an extremely hot looking, blonde Euro babe... She rubs her big natural tits and her shaved slit and really gives us a nice little show. The guys comes in and goes straight for her ass and pussy with his tongue and fingers. I guess the guy couldn’t wait because he begins fucking her pussy in doggie before he gets a blowjob. That’s a nice change of pace. She’s does some p2m and gives him a nice cock sucking with some good POV shots of the action. He also fucks that great looking rack of hers. Soon he buries his cock in her tight ass in mish. Her legs are spread and the closeups of the action are great! As another bonus, X does some awesome gaping here too. After some a2m and more tit fucking, her asshole is lowered around his cock in RC. She controls the pace and works her hips nicely, only stopping to taste her ass a few times doing some good no hands sucking. Spoon is next and the cock is still in her ass. Also we get to stare at her great set of boobies as they jiggle from the pounding she is taking. It all ends with a big load of cum shot on X’s face, most of it landing on her cheek. Awesome scene with a girl that’s quickly becoming a favorite of mine.

Reviewer 3 : X is a pretty, busty blonde who does a long tease as she looks directly into the camera. As she lies on a bed, a young muscular actor named Dillon joins her. The scene progresses through the usual format of blowjob, vag sex, anal sex with ATM, and then a facial.
There was a real lack of heat to this segment. X spends much of her time mugging for the camera, and rarely looks at her partner; in facts, she seems to prefer he touch her as little as possible. Dillon, for his part, tries to liven things up by calling her "filthy whore" or "fucking whore" a good six or seven times. This, predictably, has absolutely no effect on the heat level, since the actress just ignores him, and he ends up sounding ridiculous. A sub-par scene, and it's not hard to fathom why it's buried in the middle of the film.

Yes, this is the same actress, in the exact same scene. As you might have guessed, I'm Reviewer 3. I thought Actress X was one of the worst actresses I've ever watched, yet the other reviewers thought she was just great, which I have no argument with, since everyone looks for something different. In my case, I didn't care how blonde or busty she was, she just laid there and looked bored, a big no-no in my book.

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MASON STORM .

I like to call her a contract girl without a contract.

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Edited by - Endless Loop on 9/7/2004 10:42:19 PM

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Edited by - GonzoAnalFan on 9/7/2004 11:08:47 PM

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Anyways, the easiest way to start is Vivid Girls in general. Sad, because many were hot performers before they got the contract. I used to be a fan of Taylor Hayes and Cheyenne Silver.

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Myk

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Most of mine have been named already:

Holly Body

Jenna Jameson

Krystal Steal

Jesse Jane

Jill Kelly

Chasey Lain

Tera Patrick

Serenity (This pains me to say, because I think she's the most beautiful girl to grace porn, but unless she's with a chick, no heat)

I'll probably think of more later.

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