The Goths were a single nation mentioned in several sources up to the third century, when they apparently split into Ostrogoths and Visigoths. Both tribes shared many aspects especially recognizing a patron deity that the Romans named Mars. This so-called "split" or more appropriately, resettlement of western tribes into the Roman province of Dacia, was a natural result of population saturation of the area along the Black Sea where these Ostrogoths established a vast and powerful kingdom. Gepids became their vassal and rival
Me, for one. Do you want to know about the Ostrogoth kindgom of Toulouse? Visigoths in Spain? Vandals, Visigoths, and Alans forming a North African kingdom?
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DenverDon Benevolent
Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02
Posted - Jul 31 2004 : 12:51AM
For furthering that discussion, we should start a new thread in WN&N and return this one to bobsaguet.
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Spew Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 31 2004 : 12:53AM
or maybe he's just smart enough to know these things beforehand
I wasn't asking for a definition of either as I already know what both words mean. I was referring to others who probably wouldn't. maybe one of those little smileys would've made the statement a bit more humorous.
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Go to dvsx.com, they have an updated release schedule along with a gallery and preview for each of their titles. Last time I checked I think it was supposed to be released on August 8 or 9.
Sorry to bring up this topic again. But when answering in this thread, I thought, besides the movies from Colmax, Dorcel, various Italian productions and The Rottens, Salvation Films may also be worth a look for goth erotica.
I hang out at a lot of those clubs around here in L.A.
A lot of them are fetish models tho and they have yahoo groups, websites, etc. but not too much in to the hardcore scene. maybe at most, bondage vids. When i get a chance to later I'll post some of the girls Linx up...
Where is Rob Longshot? i usually see him & Keiko out & about @ teh clubs, they may have more insight than I.
But when i do see "gothic" porn, it really has a fabricated feel to it. like the girls would feel more comfortable in BEBE than Lip Service.
hmm...maybe someone should start their own line of Gothic/Industrial porn...
yeah... especially that certain film by a certain director that is mentioned on this thread....
Monstar knows Keiko and I from the Goth/Industrial clubs we go to, that is true... and it would be great to see someone do a REAL goth movie, with REAL goth girls, not porngirls who would never look that way if not paid to do so. there is maybe 1 or 2 girls in the aforementioned movie that i would consider "goth".
Eon Mckai at VCA has a movie coming out called "Art School Sluts" that movie has a goth/emo vibe to it and is much more authentic... and is totally not dsomething you would expect from VCA. he has posted several trailers here on ADT for it, you should check that out.
also check out the websites by Forrest Black and Amielia G., blueblood.net, barelyevil.com, gothicsluts.com, spookylinks.com and others...
also of course i (obviously) have a bent for goth girls as well, as there are some authentic ones in the industry... maybe... just maybe... *grin*
"Goth Send" boxcover has really got me, but not going to consider buying it until I've read some reviews or screened it. far too many covers promise more then they are worth. would enjoy seeing true goth girls in carnal acts.
Gothic was originally a term of criticism among the Italian Renaissance artists who coined it. The term implied that, compared to superior classical buildings, the Gothic medieval cathedrals were so crude that only a Goth could produce them. By indirectly condemning the Goths, the Italian architects revived an old hatred. The southward migration of these warring, loathsome German barbarians in the fifth century A.D. had contributed to the decline of ancient Rome.
Hey rooster, you gotta break 'em off some pics of wednesday night's little adventure with Black Dahlia... I just finished the final edit, and I think that she's gonna be permanently etched in the memory of all who see her. Volume 3 is so good, it makes me want to disown volumes 1 and 2.
I want to release Black Dahlia's disc with a special "scratch n'sniff" cover. Damn, she smelled nice.
Gladly, My friends Fasten your seat belts and lock your trays in their upright position, I present to you Dahlia. Exclusively making her mark for Pirate Booty Productions. Shno is a fresh male new comer. All screen shots in taken from Vol-3 Exclusively for members of adultdvdtalk.com enjoy;)
GOTHSEND (DVSX) has an interesting mix of the most authentic goth scenes allowable, and a raincoater's version of goth (because the porn girls know how to perform for a camera, which the untrained sexual performer usually does NOT.) There are real goth people straight from the clubs on Sunset, and there are smoking hot porn starlets who make gorgeous goths ...Mikayla Cox and Gia Jordan stand out in my mind. It's at times dark and creepy, and sometimes light and porno-ish...I had to strike a balance to keep the film in the right market.
I swept the club scene in search of the most authentic participants I could find, and I'll tell you this...The vast majority of true goths are not interested in doing porn. Likewise, the vast majority of the goth scene is not exactly in sync with what I need to sell a film. In spite of it all, I am indeed in the business of selling the dream. GOTHSEND is the end-product of the real scene mixed with the wet-dream.
Reviews available through AVN and ADT.
GOTHSEND II is also now available, and is also a twisted mix of authenticity and fantasy, but not as spooky as the original.
I've found that the edgiest flicks in the goth genre lean heavily toward S&M / BDSM / Fetish, etc...since that's the practice of the most experienced goth devoutees. Such films are often times more devoted to the art and the fetish than the sex.
In fact we do not yet have distribution in the great white north. If you are interested in such a proposal, you can go to www.profanepirate.com and click the "want to star in our erotic films" button, that will send an e-mail right to the producer. If you are just looking to grab single copies of the videos, volumes 1 and 2 are available through the website, with voume 3 in the factory right now.
I've seen my little darling Vic on Gothsend II and her look was phenomenal! Are you ready for part III? I will be back for the convention and I hope you'll love me as a blonde as much as I do... Just kidding! I will bring Romeo aka Max with me. He has that new M. Manson look now. Simply gorgeous!