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AKperv All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 27 2015 : 1:56PM
I don't find it bizarre at all. There will always be critics and the best artists will ignore them. I doubt Lansky cares a whit that I find his work tedious and uninspiring. And he shouldn't care. He should make the porn he wants to make.
Dan
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 7:41AM
There is a common saying among business people, "The customer is always right."
When you start ignoring customers and refuse to listen to their suggestions and complaints, then you go out of business eventually.
The only time ignoring your customers works is when you have a monopoly on the service you are providing, and your customers don't have any choice but to accept your bad service.
But this isn't the case in porn, at least not for long. Because porn-makers are free to imitate each other, with any changes they want to make it better for their customers.
You need to remember that when only a few customers complain and criticize the product, then usually there are a lot more customers who aren't happy with it. Because most people don't complain. They just move on to another provider.
Edited by - Dan on 9/28/2015 7:48:39 AM
misspornUSA
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 11:09AM
^Blacked's customers, ie. their members, are generally quite satisfied. The customer is always right.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 1:23PM
^ Nailed it.
 
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 1:41PM
My customers are very happy with Blacked.com, so I am happy too, as Greg is making me money.
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Aya
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 3:30PM
Yep, it's funny how there are those who think that if women aren't being pounded into submission by a mechanical jack rabbit on roids, then it's not "real" anal. But they seem to be doing fine with a "softer" style.
Dread
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 7:29PM
The only problem I have with Lanksky is that almost every damn woman on Blacked/Tushy have the same body type, a body type that does almost nothing for me, unless its a special circumstance.
Over thr course of the entire life of the site the only scenes ive looked forward to are Kendra Lust and (somewhat) Riley Reid. Its whatever though. My favorites perform elsewhere so it is what it is.
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Aya
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 9:28PM
^Has the site even been up for a year yet? I would hope the variety of body types will expand as time goes on.
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Sep 29 2015 : 2:48AM
^
If I'm not mistaken, the BLACKED membership site went live in March of 2014. The site's up-to-date scene count is 98.
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Sep 29 2015 : 4:02AM

I found that statment confusing...so by your logic, the more complaints a site/studio has, the more paying customers they have? More complaints=more customers?
Aya
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Posted - Sep 29 2015 : 7:52AM
Wow, why do they feel newer to me? They must have just started to hit their stride.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Sep 29 2015 : 11:52AM
^Their stride was hit at least as early as the Dani Daniels showcase.
llkuljd
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Posted - Oct 5 2015 : 5:38PM
As far as being part of the director's intended audience, every artist has the right to self expression whether a fine artist, music artist or . . . anal artist. Of course some call it "directorial masturbation" if the director is only interested in doing what he/she likes and doesn't care what his/her audience likes. :-) Unless you're making fine are and could care less what your audience wants or doesn't want, I'd think that most directors would appreciate audience feedback from customers who are considerate enough to take the time to do it. They then have the right to take the feedback into consideration or say "fuck 'um, I do want I want...!" :-)
Personally, I like everything Lansky is doing and wish others followed his lead. But if not, others are free to not do so, and I'm free to not buy their (gonzo, three dicks up the ass when one is sufficient, shaky cameras, and slapping women around) stuff, and only buy Lansky (and a few others Cherry Vision, Evil Playgrounds, Pure Anal, Bad Romance, Pervision, and occasionally Private).
llkuljd
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Posted - Oct 5 2015 : 5:40PM
BTW any info on when the next Tushy.com (Kendra Lust and Reily Reid were both masterpieces) or Blacked.com are being released?
 
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Oct 5 2015 : 9:38PM
Yup. I'd argue that what he's suggesting is that they should listen to people who aren't actually their customers in hopes of turning them into customers. Which can end up not going well very easily.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Oct 5 2015 : 9:42PM
At this point, I'm not so sure about that. I mean, they do make exceptions ever so often if the performer is popular enough (Capri Cavanni, Kendra Lust, Cherie Deville), but young, Caucasian, and slim builds seem to be what their audience wants, and there's no shortage of that type of woman in the industry now, and entering it in the future. I mean, there's someone in the Blacked thread right now complaining that they shot Chanel Preston.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 5 2015 : 10:22PM
^I also don't expect Lansky to begin shooting a wider variety of body types any time soon. He definitely has a clear preference when it comes to the women he's interested in shooting, and imo he occasionally deviates from that only to attract the attention of a pornstar's large fanbase "in hopes of turning them into customers."
tintintin
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Posted - Oct 6 2015 : 5:43PM
The only thing I don't like about the Greg Lansky shooting style is the fact that all the sexpositions are Always the same in the same order.
For example... In ffm scene you will Always see a girl on her knees being fucked in the pussy while the other girl licks her ass.
I find this a nice position but why not some variety.. in this case... the girl laying on her back being fucked mission-style whyle the other girl licks her ass and balls and the shaft of the guys penis
llkuljd
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 5:14PM
Just when I thought it couldn't get any better than Tushy.com's "Anal Beauty," the Tushy folks and Mr. Lansky release "Being Riley" . . . getting one of the most beloved stars in the business Riley Reid to finally take the anal . . . plunge. And to do so magnificently. Then when I thought it couldn't get any better than that, they go and releases "Miss Tushy" getting one of the sexiest 30 something(?) fit girls in the business to finally take the plunge too!
I was sure it couldn't get any better than that. And then they go and release "Anal Models" which, for my money, is up there among the Best adult movies ever released with never before seen slinky ginger dancer-type Kimberly Brix, the best scenes ever for Megan Rain and Cassidy Klein, and one of the best scenes yet with Taylor May.
As wonderful as it is to see the Tushy.com folks getting some of the prettiest girls in the business to take the plunge (hopefully paying them more since they deserve it), I gotta say, the biggest "star" of the Greg Lansky movies is the filmmaker himself and his style of shooting!
Hoping the Tushy.com com and Blacked.com universe may eventually expand to include a little white on black interracial with someone like an Ana Foxxx or Teanna Trump. Maybe a black on Asian under the Blacked.com label (relatively unknown Japanese girls Marie Konishi, Ayubi Yumeni, and Reira Aisaki come to mind). Or maybe some equally exceptional, rarely seen MILFS like a Betty Blaze or Amanda Verhooks.
Anyway, no matter what, can't wait for more!
af369
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Posted - Jul 6 2017 : 9:09PM
Greg Lansky just keeps getting better and better. More and more prolific and recognized for his unique talent. Which is great. But who, do you think, is making porn inspired by his style? I really love his style and I'd like to see more of it - I'm sure there must be a lot of younger directors who are influenced by his work. Or is it too early yet?
InstantClassic
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Posted - Jul 7 2017 : 6:57AM
I will give GL credit for a crystal clear picture and nice teasing. But I don't see an anal porn revolution. His style is too monotonous. Same 2 camera angles, same 2 position, same stories, same lingerie and the sex is almost
slumbrous (IMO) He is good at what he does >> high class erotica. But like I said, no revolution. When it comes to variety and pacing a scene, Mason and Jules Jordan are miles ahead of him.
Fishing_addicted
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Posted - Jul 7 2017 : 9:49AM
they should give him the award for the most boring sex ever.
i fall asleep at every trailer.
he shoots the entire scene with the camera on a tripod, same side view angle, he never let the girls squat on the dick, almost no ATM.
4k resolution and colors washed away. bad lights set up, skin tone is grey.
same location, same bedroom, same white walls. sorry but for me is one of the worst directors ever.
the good thing is the make up. light make up is the best. But scene boring as hell. same for the scripts.
my 2 cents.
af369
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Posted - Jul 7 2017 : 11:27AM
Wow, interesting to find you so critical towards Lansky! What I think is new (okay, "revolution" may be a too strong word for it) with his style is that he actually manages to combine the glossy, pretty visual aesthetic of big budget softcore with scorching hot anal sex. And there is an air of dignity above it all, it's so far from circus sex gonzo or the style once perfected by William H, but which inevitably became a cliché - you know, "oily asses and toys and exaggerated screaming and aggressive anal pounding, shot in a white photo studio with a big couch". It's like... romantic and erotic and very very hot at the same time. Jules Jordan was truly great back in the day, he was the king of anal porn, but seriously, that was quite a few years ago. Mason is still good though.
af369
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Posted - Jul 7 2017 : 11:31AM
I also like the scripts of Lansky's scenes, those little vignettes. I love that style of simple but effective porn narrative, it reminds me of the classic Private Triple X movies of the 90's. Does anyone know any other director who also makes vignette-style anal flicks today? That are as good as, or maybe even better, than the Tushy productions?
 
tintintin
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Posted - Jul 7 2017 : 11:49AM
I like the scripts and girls..
What I don't like is the repetetive order of sexpositions.
And the script Always ends when the fucking begins. Short: I love talking during sex... and if its taboo? Taboo talk please. And if its girlfriends sharing cock.. talk about it during the sex.
af369
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Posted - Jul 7 2017 : 12:21PM
af369
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Posted - Jul 9 2017 : 6:41PM
Okay I can see the point of the criticism against Greg Lansky about him getting repetitive. Angles and locations and so forth. But what I am interested in is: who are his followers? Among the newer directors? After all his success, there must be some disciples? Who wants to carry the torch? Like Jules Jordan carried John Stagliano's torch back in the day.
Ictor_HaX
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Posted - Jul 9 2017 : 8:02PM
I dont think that he's revolutionary, he only focus on the "glamour" category in porn, and he is invested heavily to make his brand sucess, bring the best girls in the industry to debut first something, and im grateful for this, Blacked is a nice site. The "vixen angel" stuff, showcases, his image is everything that a new girl in porn want it and I recognize it, the guy is good
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Jul 9 2017 : 11:53PM
Personally, I love the camera work (though it'd be nice if he incorporated POV shots more often) but the problem for me is the overdirecting of the performers when it comes to the dialogue and the sex. Having the performers speak from a script in the scene's setup (before the sex starts) is fine, but once they start getting down to it, the performers should be able to just say whatever they want; the scripted lines during the sex, like "It's so deep!" (when it's usually not) are kind of lame. And when it comes to the sex, it seems like he often directs the performers to go ridiculously slow; very rarely is a guy able to go full throttle when fucking the girl, instead, it's mostly slow and steady "in-and-outs."
As for directors who might produce similar content, though I haven't watched much of his scenes, judging by trailers it seems like James Avalon's productions are similar to Lansky's.
Edited by - Mass Facialties on 7/10/2017 2:35:52 PM
af369
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Posted - Jul 10 2017 : 7:07AM
Good point, I think so too.
af369
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Posted - Jul 10 2017 : 7:14AM
Yeah, I see what you mean. I like the scripts but some of the dialogues feels a bit forced and unnatural during the actual sex. I like the slow pace though, that is what I think is new and fresh about Lansky! It's very far from sweaty manic turbo ass fucking (nothing wrong with that, but EVERYONE else does that), instead he gives the impression of anal sex as something extremely special and erotic... like some sacred sexual ritual almost... I really like that.
Thanks for the tip about James Avalon, but I don't think his work is so anal oriented?
pat362
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Posted - Jul 10 2017 : 11:18AM
For the most part every single scenario is superfluous because there is simply not enough of it to make a difference one way or the other. You can remove it all from the scene and it won't be a problem because ultimately we are watching artcore gonzo porn where you have one girl getting fucked in the ass by a porn stud.
That said I would absolutely love it if they actually had a scenario for every one of their scenes where there is a non-sex prologue with some actual non-sex related dialogue between the performers that help build the story we are suppose to believe is happening and well defined characters. I realise that it's not going to happen because it would require that the performer be willing (or able) to rehearse their roles a while before they actually film the scene. More importantly it would require that the studio be willing to pay those performers to do that rehearsing. I'm willing to believe that the first could happen but the second won't because this is the era when you have to shoot the scene for as little as possible to make a decent profit.
What we currently have is two performers showing up to a shoot where they know almost nothing about their role or maybe they don't know anything. All they probably know is that it will be an anal scene. Imagine if each received a script that has at least 10 minutes worth of non-sex action with some back and forth dialogue and a general idea of how the scene will unfold.
af369
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Posted - Jul 29 2017 : 6:54PM
That would be wonderful. The scenes would really benefit from it.
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Jul 29 2017 : 11:43PM
In regards to Tushy, they seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on gaping in their most recent scenes.
 
SteveX
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 12:19AM
Yeah a lot of people have been requesting it in the comments etc.
To be honest, it isn't my taste - I just like watching a girl tease and get fucked good.
If Lansky made another site which is likely, it would be nice to have a switch up to a style similar to William H & Mason - in terms of teasing then intense fucking or even like We Live Together tease :D.
Tushy for what it is, I don't mind paying for. But lately the new scenes haven't made me tune in as much.
They use the same male talent for a few scenes in a row before switching it up which is disappointing. It makes releases feel too much the same.
Edited by - SteveX on 7/30/2017 12:19:54 AM
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 12:34AM
^
I've really enjoyed the most recent scenes (Kelsi Monroe, Lana Rhoades, Jynx Maze and the Riley Reid/Adriana Chechik one), but I gotta say that the much-hyped Eva Lovia showcase has been unspectacular. Despite her beauty and that amazin' ass, none of the three scenes released from Eva's showcase already have really impressed me and I don't expect to be wow-ed by the DP scene, either.
SteveX
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 2:10AM
Yeah, I don't mind the female casting. They are all hot and I do like them. I dunno lol I know I've seen Kelsi, Jynx & Adriana take it up the butt a lot already. I guess I may watch those scenes later.
I'll watch the DP scene when its out, just to know I've watched that gorgeous woman get DP'd. Most of the time, I watch for the reaction to being DP'd and then skip to the last 10min unless there is a good position.
af369
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 5:41AM
Yeah, I agree actually :/
af369
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 5:47AM
This is another interesting question: are the scenes too long these days? I think sometimes they are. Thanks to erection drugs of today, the male performers can go on practically forever. It's cool in a way, but I can miss the old days where the scenes had a length more close to the time period of an average intercourse... but then again, porn is all about fantasies and is not supposed to reflect reality, I guess.
SteveX
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 6:54AM
^ There are some scenes that I watch in their entirety, but most I just skip to the positions / angles I enjoy the most and then to the end. I prefer to watch teases as well.
Ronald
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Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 6:54PM
The Tushy My DP 1 and 2 are two of the best DP movies of all time, if only they had some double pussy series Id be a happy guy
af369
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Posted - Aug 3 2017 : 2:00PM
I agree! Can't wait for volume 3 :)
cormac
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Posted - Sep 4 2017 : 5:21AM
On the latest Lana Rhoades thread there's discussion about different styles of porn and she mentions the difference between Mason's style and Greg's. Not for the first time I wondered, now that LesbianX has taken off so successfully, whether the timing is now right for a Greg directed anal lesbian porn sight for Tushy. The occasional lesbian scene such as the one in Lana's showcase with Adriana has whetted my appetite. I would expect Greg to select more g/g-specific performers than Mason and give us an alternative to loud/fast which is just about ther only style of lesbian anal going around.
pat362
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Posted - Sep 4 2017 : 11:09AM
^I've been hoping to have a good lesbian anal site for years because it is a fetish that is represented by the site Everything Butt and at it's heart (EB) is less a lesbian anal site and more an anal site that happens to star only women. There isn't a lot of kissing or actual interaction between the various performers other than one is the giver and the other is the receiver. The fact that it's extreme anal penetration probably limits the amount of women that are willing to work for them.
The arrival of Lesbian X got me excited because I thought that we would finally have a lesbian site that would include a certain amount of anal sex in some of their videos and we do have that but I argue that Lesbian X is more a gonzo site than anything else and that's a major problem for me. My idea of good lesbian porn scene has to include foreplay, lots of kissing, breast play and major cunnilingus. A great lesbian porn scene will include all of the previous things but also have a scenario, non-sex related dialogue and anal (preferably a strap-on). Granted many will say that Lesbian X has most of these things in the bulk of their videos and although I can't argue about that. What I will say is that I don't see the chemistry, passion or heat that I can see when I watch most of the videos put out by studios like Girlfriend Films or Sweetheart Video or Girlsway.
Schlossel
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Posted - Sep 4 2017 : 12:33PM
I agree with first post. Everything looks too white and clean, too staged, too much cuts. The sex feels mechanic, the "performers" are "performing". I'll pass.
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Posted - Sep 4 2017 : 1:05PM
^I've shared this exact sentiment before as well.
The overall aesthetic feels too pristine, almost contrived to a sense. Trying too hard to appear "classy" or high-end.
Edited by - Starry Eyes on 9/4/2017 1:11:06 PM
cormac
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Posted - Sep 5 2017 : 5:58AM
^, ^^, ^^^ I agree somewhat about the ultra-white surroundings but it doesn't put me off. I think pat362 hit the nail on the head (except I don't love strap-ons). The best anal lesbian scenes have th anal as an integral part of erotic sex. Foreplay, kissing, breast/pussy worship and anal as a climax. There is no one, repeat no one, that produces this on a regular basis and there hasn't been for a very long time (if I'm wrong and someone out there is producing this stuff then please point me at it). Greg would be a natural to fill this big void. His scenes for We Live Together had the style exactly right but only occasionally was there any anal play. Chuck anal into that type of scene and you'll have me hooked and grateful.
Oh yeah, he doesn't use toys much either. Fingers are so underrated. Flesh on flesh beats plastic any day.
pat362
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Posted - Sep 5 2017 : 11:58AM
^&^^&^^^I'm sure you all realise that almost every Lansky scene is shot on a bed in a bedroom so white sheets makes a lot of sense and since he shoots in the day time then having a room with lots of windows to allow the use of natural lighting is the most logical thing to do because you don't need the added set-up time or cost of artificial lighting. For that reason the scenes will be brighter than they might normally be but unlike the stuff that LP shoots. It won't have a clinical feel to it.
I can't help but point out that the kind of porn Lanksy does is still gonzo in nature but by it's an artsy type of gonzo so for that reason it can't help but feel somewhat mechanical. The fact that many of the scenes have a mechanical feel to them is a pet peeve of mine and I would one of those who would be thrilled if he expanded on his little scenarios but I know it's unlikely to happen because doing that would significantly increase production cost so for now I have to live with what he puts out because it's still better than what most other companies offer.
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Posted - Sep 6 2017 : 5:48AM
^ Again, I agree in part. But in the absence of anything else (and the perfect mix of passionate eroticism with ass play for me was some of the early Viv Thomas output), Greg is my best hope for erotic g/g anal. I also hold out hope for Girlsway. A bit.
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Posted - Sep 6 2017 : 1:06PM
As far as the girls featured on the site, Tushy has been the best of the GLN (Greg Lansky Network) sites over the past couple weeks/months. I hope there are more scenes to come with that Chris Diamond guy, he's a great addition to Tushy's male talent rotation.
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