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Schlossel
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Posted - Oct 23 2017 : 6:20PM
It's only my opinion but there's nothing special about Lansky's directing. They have high production value and it shows, that's all there is to it. The "beautiful environments" is basically an all white set, "excellent lighting" is a competent exposition and some post prod work to make the "bright" look wich is pretty easy to do, "great camerawork" is 3 types of shots for each position (close up on the action, close up on girl's face and a full shot), editing is pretty straight forward aswell...
Taking a look at the new site, it seems like he is trying to do some real directing work with a more sophisticated type of lighting and a daring shooting style.
kimbo
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Posted - Oct 23 2017 : 11:16PM
Would anyone else sign up for a "white on black" IR site?
I think it would elevate the genre.
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 12:16AM
White guys and black girls?
I would be down for that.
gruntler
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 12:54AM
I've seen the Kylie Page and Lana Rhodes scenes, based on them it's a cross between Blacked and Tonight Girlfriend thought the filming is nowhere near as good as Blacked (or Tushy/Vixen). Pretty ordinary setup if you ask me.
 
ISS
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 12:55AM
^^ It'd elevate the genre but I don't think it'd be feasible. There's just not that many black women in porn and after shooting a few dozen of them, you'll have to do repeats until a new girl comes along. That'd work for a year or so, but after that, it'll quickly become stale as the new talent will be few and far between.
shalalin
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 11:05AM
^ Indeed. There's Dogfart's We Fuck Black Girls, but it only updates every three weeks, likely for that reason.
Van Hinten
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 12:35PM
You have to put your site suggestion to 2020 at least, because next year tushyraw and 2019 vixenraw will launch. The site domains have already been registerd by his company.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 1:55PM
^ Are you serious? Where did you find that info?
dodgenot
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 5:05PM
Greg you are a world class videographer.
You are the first director in porn that knows a blow job is really a form of portraiture. You use short telephotos instead of zooming in with a wide angle camcorder which distorts the face.
I could go on and on but your talent and attention to detail is amazing as has been noted before by many. In fact some of your stills can be as much of a turn on as an entire scene.
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I am looking forward to BlackedRaw. One gripe I have with your material is that you need some more gonzo in your flicks. "Private" has good production values and talent (but not as good as yours) but the lame money shots have driven most of us way from them.
Less gonzo than legalporno perhaps but more than Blacked has now.
Keep up the great work.
By the way, I miss the Anabolic days for that stuff.
Edited by - dodgenot on 10/24/2017 5:06:54 PM
Edited by - dodgenot on 10/24/2017 5:08:59 PM
Dexter76
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 6:48PM
^
That's what I was thinking. A website with only threesomes (combo of all our favorites including all girl), including IR.
moebius22
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 1:49AM
Where does Lansky find these guys? He has some of the best production values, but uses some of the worst Black male talent.

Edited by - moebius22 on 10/25/2017 1:52:03 AM

Deathstars62
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 5:48AM
7 hours till launch
https://www.blackedraw.com/
tintintin
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 11:50AM
Greg doesn't read this.
Too busy with filming white rooms
Deathstars62
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 3:17PM
Well those BlackedRaw videos are disappointing
Basically Tonight's Girlfriend with bad lighting
 
moebius22
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 6:40PM
When u shoot at day you can get away with less lights. Not so with night. You also have to know how to light for night. Lansky doesn't look like he knows.
pat362
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 9:27PM
^I don't think it's a lack of knowledge so much as a creative choice on his part. If you want to argue that it's a stupid choice on his part than please go ahead but I don't really mind it. What I do mind is that the little scenarios are kind of dumb, the shooting style leaves a lot to be desired and honestly the only major difference between this site and Blacked is that one his shot in the daytime and the other in the nighttime.
moebius22
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 10:44PM
Frankly looks like shit. The reason u put up with Lansky's repitious format, bland performances, and lock down camera is due to the presentation. Shinng one big light on the talent looks low grade.
Edited by - Moebius22 on 10/26/2017 10:46:05 PM
ISS
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 10:56PM
^ The formats are different, and the performances are generally better on BLACKEDRAW. Personally, I think the aesthetic is great too. Not everything needs to look its best to actually look the best!
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 1:34AM
To the first point (in bold), exactly what I was thinking, thus the reason for the "Raw" in the name. I also agree with your last point, in that when it comes to the setups and the sex, it looks and feels a lot like Blacked, at least that's the impression I get from the trailers. As I said in the BlackedRaw.com Official Thread when the site was first revealed, it appears to be no different than Blacked other than the scenes containing some "raw" cellphone footage and the sex taking place in dark rooms with poor lighting. As a result, BlackedRaw is a site I have no interest in.
EDIT: By the way, how 'bout we change the title of this thread? I mean, there are now four Greg Lansky sites. How about something like Greg Lansky, future site possibilities?
Edited by - Mass Facialties on 10/27/2017 1:57:58 AM
pat362
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 11:07AM
^Do you know why he thought that there was a demand for that kind of porn? He already had interracial content with his Blacked site. All he should have done is add one of these Blacked Raw scene in-between a Blacked scene but now he has to film two scenes instead of one where basically the same performers appear on both sites doing approximately the same thing.
What Lansky should have done with his Blacked Raw site but I think he can't for a variety of reasons is have a site where the performer have anal or dp's sex with one or more interracial performers. In the same way that Vixen is basically Tushy but without the anal.
P.S: I have no problem changing the name of the thread.
kimbo
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 12:48PM
I disagree. There would be enough girls for 1 scene a week.
pat362
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 1:25PM
^If you really believe that then you have to name them because I'm even less optimistic that the OP. I don't think you have enough active black female performers to permit the shooting of one scene per week for six months without shooting the same woman at least twice and possibly three times. I don't even think that you get enough performers if you had Hispanic women.
kimbo
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 4:45PM
^ There are sites on RK, MOFOS, TeamSkeet, Banbgros that update every 1- 2 weeks and there would be nothing wrong with using a girl like Chanell Heart and many others multiple times like VIXEN and BLACKED do with many of their white models.
ISS
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 4:57PM
^ Updating the site once every week would mean that they would have to downscale the rest of the operation, including the price point. The other sites currently update once every 5 days, which means 6 scenes per month, so it'll be updating 33% less frequent than those sites. Thus, it wouldn't make sense to charge the same or even pay the same.
In addition, like I've said, shooting the same girl multiple times isn't an issue per se. The issue will be when almost every girl has shot multiple scenes for them and there won't be any more variety to be had until a new girl comes along and the same process is applied to them. But with how few black girls get into porn compared to white girls, that type of program wouldn't be sustainable for long. Reducing the update frequency by 33% like you suggest would prolong it, but it's just delaying the inevitable. The only permanent solution would be if more black women took up porn, but that's not something you can manipulate from the content creator side of things.
What Greg Lansky could do though is just shoot more black women on VIXEN, his generic vanilla site for generic vanilla sex, no ethnicity requirements necessary. Nia Nacci has already shot for them among other bright new black stars, so it's not out of the question.
Edited by - ISS on 10/27/2017 4:58:04 PM
Edited by - ISS on 10/27/2017 4:58:54 PM
 
shalalin
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 5:04PM
^^ Both RK and BangBros are shooting a significant amount of their ebony content with girls active only in Florida (and often basically one-and-done) who wouldn't be available to Lansky. And that's before we even get to the question how much of the talent filmed for those sites would actually pass Lansky's personal quality standards.
Edited by - shalalin on 10/27/2017 5:07:06 PM
pat362
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Posted - Oct 27 2017 : 8:55PM
Do I take it from your post that you can't come up with more than one name? I'm sure you can and I don't want to pick on you because I think the industry would be a much better place if we had a lot more performers of various ethnicity but the reality is that we don't. In fact I don't think we have enough women of color to film one scene per week without using the same performer multiple times.
dodgenot
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darthroc
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 12:41PM
He is promising "big news" tomorrow
pat362
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 1:36PM
^Well if it's like that last big news then it will be very disappointing.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 1:37PM
It's the Tori Black b/g comeback scene
darthroc
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 2:25PM
Sadly you appear to be correct. With that kind of tease I thought for sure it would either be a new website or a b/g debut.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 9:25PM
It'd be nice if someone could interview him and ask where the hell that g/g site he promised is. With AVN coming up, hopefully this will happen.
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 10:08PM
^I don't think it's ever going to happen. Even though he could just copy the formula and pretty much make a G/G version of Vixen, I think it would have happened by now if it was meant to be. He's hit gold with 4 doesn't need to expand beyond the genre.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Nov 17 2017 : 11:47PM
^ You might be right but there's no harm in asking and hopefully getting a straight answer. Plus, there's clearly demand for a g/g site from him; so why not capitalize and launch a g/g site which will most likely be a success and make him more money. I think what's most frustrating as a g/g fan is the lack of transparency from him. If you don't plan on doing g/g just say so, don't give false hope then pull the rug from under us.
 
Aya
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 12:04AM
^Well, the lack of an answer may mean he truly hasn't decided yet. Best case scenario is it will happen but he's just putting all the pieces in place to make sure it launches as strong as possible and can't or doesn't want to say anything until everything is ready.
On paper, a Lansky G/G site seems like a no-brainer; He's got a killer formula with his current brand, the G/G directing experience, and has cultivated strong relationships with top performers who would be more than willing to do it.
Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I just feel like he's so entrenched in B/G now, that it's not likely. I mean after doing Vanilla, Anal, and IR BG, you'd think G/G would be the next logical step, but it turned out to be a different spin on IR B/G. We may have to wait until Tushy Raw and Vixen Raw happen first.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 12:25AM
I'm honestly tired of the speculation. Hopefully we get some answers between now and AVN.
Edited by - lurkerbrah on 11/18/2017 12:26:58 AM
pat362
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 12:29PM
Let me first say that I'm about to go on a rant. I have been a Lansky fan for many years and I was thrilled when he started his various sites but as much as I loved his work. I have gotten to the point where I'm finding it harder to distinguish his stuff from what others produce and it's not because others are copying his style but because his stuff looks more like theirs. The best example is the new BlackedRaw site. He has basically taken his Blacked site but chnaged it to a night looking shoot where there is minimal lighting, a more amateurish shooting style and very little scenario. Mind you that last one has been one of his sins since he started working on his sites. The scenarios are so short and often redundant that they almost never had anything to the final product. Another difference with the new BR site is that it's not really glamcore porn. Now some may be thrilled about that difference but are they the same people that love the work he does on his other sites?
If some of you have read my comments on the Tushy thread than you know that I have been vocal when it comes to Lansky's decision to start shooting threesome scenes where only one of the women has sex with the man while the other is basically there for the oral part of the scene. It's pretty bad when he copies one of Mike Adriano's biggest fault. I know some have said positive things about those new threesome scenes but I think they are in the minority. Most people dislike them for obvious reasons. That decision was bad but he has compounded the problem with some of the performers he has hired this year. I understand that you can't compel someone to do anal if they don't want to but I also know that there are plenty of past Tushy performer still doing anal that could have been hired in place of those women. The last nail for me was the hiring of Leigh Raven. I'm not a fan of heavily tattooed performers(male or female) and I always assumed that Gregg wasn't either based on the performer she has hired in the past but that last hire tells me that maybe he is changing his mind on the subject. Regardless that is why I cancelled my a long term recurring membership this month.
Now maybe I expect too much out of my favorite porn producers but maybe I just expect them to care a little bit more than they seem to do. I understand the time and budget restrictions of modern porn but I also understand that at some point if you don't listen to your customers the they will become ex-customers. It's a lot easier to keep someone happy then it is to get them back once they are unhappy.
As much as I would love a lesbian site from Lansky. I have come to the conclusion that it's probably a terrible idea if he decides to go down that route because I believe he will screw it up. Not necessarily out of malice or lack of talent but in the simple fact that unless he gets cloned or hires a filmmaker with a similar style then he simply does not have the time to actually do a new site. He has to produce a new scene every five days for 4 separate sites. That comes out to about 20 scenes per month. His current workload is such that he basically has to shoot one scene per day to meet his quota and spend his weekend editing and what not just to meet his minimum quota of scenes but that also means that he can't actually film all that many extra scenes to meet any possible industry shutdowns that might occur. That also means that he doesn't really have any time to plan for upcoming shoots and it also means that his work must at some point suffer his lack of available time. For that reason I can't see him starting another site.

Edited by - pat362 on 11/18/2017 12:43:35 PM

SP_Love
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 1:28PM
I've given up on Lansky starting an all-girl site. It's not gonna happen. Not only does he not have the time as has already been mentioned but I also suspect that he literally has no interest in going back to filming lesbians. I've excepted it and I'm moving on.

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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 2:46PM
^A lot can change in 2 years. The most we can hope for is the rare G/G scene sprinkled in the B/G showcases of the girls that catch his eye. This thread and the hoping was originally started when he only had 2 sites If there is no news before 2018, I think we should all stop hoping.
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 2:50PM
^Agreed. Pretty much like the Eva Lovia/Kayden Kross scene for Tushy.
SP_Love
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 2:57PM
^^^
Yeah I'd say that it was something he thought about doing several years ago but not so much now.
Also actions speak louder than words. His actions scream "I couldn't care less about starting a new lesbian porn site".
I'm just greatful that we have access to his work from the old WLT. I'm always revisiting those classics.


"Twist Your Head Around; It's All Around You"
Edited by - love on 11/18/2017 2:58:19 PM
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 3:06PM
I've heard just about enough of this guy, I can't even scroll through some of my favorite performers twitter feed without this harbinger of null being mentioned and praised. His work is really as bland and insipid as it gets, without a doubt the most obvious charlatan I've ever seen in the porn industry. If you don't got the heart to write stories that depict a sense of heightened reality and direct scenes that honorably uphold a irrepressible all-out gonzo policy then you got no business talking about art. If it doesn't incite the senses then it amounts to nothing more then processed drab. Yet despite his unwatchable product he's still gets the privilege to work with a lot of great and prestigious performers, which is odd since literally anyone can act like a depersonalized zombie, you don't need an a-list pornstar for that. But I guess it pays well enough and it's probably the closest thing they get to a day off, so of course you can't really blame them. First he represents an entirely sterile environment (nothing wrong with that) and then he makes the performers (for lack of a better word) imitate the very lifelessness of that environment like they just sat through some cult initiation program (crimes against humanity), how in the world is he allowed to continue with these type of cruel jokes?. Everything he touches turns to utter oblivion, just look at what he did to poor Charlotte Sarte, covering up her tats and making her act in a manner that's so unlike her natural persona, it's disgusting. Yet out of common courtesy I really tried to watch one of his scenes In full, but after 5 minutes or so I already felt like tossing a flash bang grenade onto the set just to shake things up a little, as my existential desperation for something intense and profound got the best of me. It really ain't that hard to figure out folks:
Tushy and similar brands = revisited softcore
Raw = revisited amateur
In case you're looking for something of the latter, there's only one company that supersedes them all: SinsLife. Consisting of Johnny and Kissa Sins and whoever's lucky enough to sleep with them. And rest assure, these are certified professionals who got passion and skills in spades while always staying true to themselves. I rank their sex tours among the best stuff that's out there and that's saying a lot considering the amateur aesthetic. Sure, Kissa can be a bit self indulgent at times, but it's in the most charming and natural way imaginable, so you'll only end up loving her more and more and more and more until infinity.
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 3:32PM
^
I can see where you're coming from. Admittedly, I'm not fond of how he flaunts himself on social media with the gaudy imagery and stuff. He's no Hugh Hefner. I'll only watch certain scenes if I like the female performer featured, but I am no ardent follower of his brands. When I got back into porn I too wondered how this guy catapulted himself to the forefront, as there's so many quality studios pumping out solid content. He has seemingly no competition either. What other director has 4 sites? I would like to see another meteoric rise from someone to give him a run for his money.
Good call on SinsLife, their sexual escapades are always pretty fun. Not to mention they usually snag top-notch performers to join them.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 3:45PM
^ Mason has four sites too (g/g included), and also puts out high quality content. I will say that Lansky has her beat on self-promotion and marketing. Although I think he's full of himself, Lansky knows how to sell a product.
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 3:48PM
^True, I forgot about Mason but she's been a legend for over a decade now. I'm not sure how Lansky pulled it off so quickly.
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 3:58PM
^
^
Actually, the only sites in the XEmpire network that Mason produces content for nowadays are HardX and LesbianX. She stopped producing content for EroticaX shortly after the site's launch and other than a recently released gangbang scene featuring Keisha Grey, there hasn't been a Mason-directed scene on DarkX in nearly a year.
Eva93
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 4:42PM
^^^^ What I don't get about all of the pomp and circumstance is who it's bringing in as an audience. In the AVN feature about Lana getting their girl of the month, they mentioned that they imported a door for Morocco that "needed 10 men to carry" for Uma Jolie's shoot. It might just be me, but I don't think the paying customer for porn really cares where a necklace is made or what kind of door is in a photoshoot. While there's no doubt that Lansky's sites are some of the most successful right now, I do think there's a nonzero factor of that success comes from the fact that he was able to be the first to shoot interracial porn in ultra high definition before anyone else did. People still talk about his g/g work for WLT as some of the best the industry has ever seen, but you rarely hear about the b/g work he did at the same time mentioned in the same breath as his peers around that time such as the Evil and Elegant Angel crews, Jules Jordan, or even the Kelly and Ryan Madison and Jackie St. James. It wasn't until he got the money to start Blacked that he was able to get that success, and while I can't comment about the b/g scenes on any of his sites, the very few g/g scenes he's done follow the same basic formula that stripped any real feeling of authenticity. As up and down as Girlsway can be with how the stories can be way too over the top, once the sex starts there are enough scenes that don't follow a basic formula to know exactly what you're getting each time. That's why I'm agreeing with Pat that unless he changes things up to allow for at least the feeling of spontaneity, it's not worth his time. The pristine look might bring people in, but no amount of AP lingerie or helicopter shots are going to keep people there when things start to become homogeneous and you hire models to fit a certain style and don't adapt to either their strengths as performer or his strengths as a director. That Riley/Kendra scene felt like anyone could have directed it, not that it was a Greg scene.
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 5:19PM
^
Wholeheartedly agree. He tries pulling in the viewer with a very garish presentation. There's nothing wrong with having a "classy" porn production instead of something sleazy, honestly I prefer it. But it seems very contrived and over the top. I think he floated through mediocrity when starting out at New Sensations/Digital Sin. It seemed amateurish. Nothing very noteworthy to my knowledge, and then he was at Reality Kings (for quite a while) and I'm not sure what standout content he crafted there either. Maybe I'm just misinformed. Were his works even discussed on this forum before Blacked? Willing to bet no one even knew who he was. According to his director page on IAFD, there was a 3 year gap (2011-2014) where he had no director credits at all - then Blacked launched him into the stratosphere.
I respect his hustle and passion for the industry, but like anyone, his "art" is not flawless. Someone like Mason (to me) wipes the floor with him.
Maybe I'm a hypocrite, because I'm psyched for Tori Black's return scene.
Not blown away by his directorial style by any means. But as I said - if I like the female performer I'm not going to spite myself by looking away.
Edited by - Starry Eyes on 11/18/2017 5:38:23 PM
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 6:10PM
^
"Were his works even discussed on this forum before Blacked? Willing to bet no one even knew who he was."
We started discussing his work at WLT near the end of that phase of his career...
We Live Together: Official Thread
Not surprisingly he got some of the same criticisms that are given in this current thread. It wasn't until after he left WLT and that site became the dumpster fire that it is today that many began to appreciate his talent. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone?
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