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| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 |  Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 2:07AMA girl endures a tragic childhood of alleged sexual abuse. She grows up to get caught up in the jizz bizz. She gets involved with a smut director who allegedly batters her. The two of them then seem to disappear from the industry not to be seen or heard from again. Then, a few weeks after all this happens, we hear a report that she's dead of unknown causes. It's like following a porn soap opera. The classic tale of "little girl lost." It just all seems too odd to believe is real.   [Link] |
| wolf69 Member My compass is pointing West. 830 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 3:06AM [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 3:51AM Whatever the story behind it it's awful when somebody that young goes. rip. [Link] |
| veronica moser Member NYC 208 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 8:08AM "For instance, I think that Haley Paige seems like a really sweet young lady: the very troubling things I have heard happened to her when she was younger may contribute to her decision to make money having sex on camera. But once she did, she seems like an exceptionally gentle person. One with KILLER pontoons, too…but I think in many of the scene I saw her do, she communicated not only her sexuality, but her vulnerability…she's kinda hypnotic to me…" She responded, using Chico's account. He also made some flippant, not particularly thoughtful comments, which may be enlightening with respect to some of the events that apparently led to her demise. https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=5/topic_id=96158/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/96158.htm In the last year, I've been very taken with her, mostly for the reasons stated above. Though at times like these, I wonder about the consequences of pornography. She will always be special to me, but the business that produces this kind of entertainment is such that someone with her history of painful experiences could be in peril (cf Mike Quasar's post above). She shared something with me and other masterbators, but where did it get her? This isn't to say that porno is more morally and ethically troublesome than many human endeavors: (it may be, since I have no firsthand experience with it, apart from consuming it). But every masterbator/fanboy should at least reflect on the human costs of this kind of entertainment. RIP, MH. Edited by - veronica moser on 10/2/2007 8:17:47 AM [Link] |
| ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 8:37AM my condolences to her friends and family. so it goes. [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 8:45AM Where would it end anyway, who made the computer you typed this msg on? or your shoes or toothbrush ect ect, more than likely it was made by somebody in a desperate situation who basically lost life's lottery by being born where they were. Everything we do or use in our society has a very real human cost on somebody else. [Link] |
| loop Senior Member 1409 Posts 9/03 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 8:55AM dann , i hate these newshaley was one of my favorite performers .i hope she will be rest in peace now after what she's been through. [Link] |
| veronica moser Member NYC 208 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 9:03AM No need to get defensive, fellas…I didn't say that anyone not directly involved with this situation was in any way responsible for anything… "Everything we do or use in our society has a very real human cost on somebody else." Precisely. This is something worth contemplating, particularly with respect to a type of entertainment that is meaningful enough to you, me and anyone who cares enough to post on a message board devoted to said entertainment… I might say something similar if I cared about shoelaces or toothbrushes enough to frequent on online forum devoted to such. [Link] |
| BrekkyDJ Member Australia 246 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 9:09AM [ invalid url ] or cut and paste link. http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5095/haleypaige2cd1.jpg Man that's a beautiful smile. I may not have got to know her - but a day later from hearing the news, it still feels like a massive kick in the guts. My thoughts again go out to her Family and Friends. BrekkyDJ (life's too short, isn't it) Edited by - BrekkyDJ on 10/2/2007 11:50:52 AM [Link] |
| TeaganPresley Senior Member 1009 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 12:06PM Teagan [Link] |
| Ordell Deactivated User 1042 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 12:21PM [Link] |
| Strongbad Senior Member 1481 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 12:33PM [Link] |
| ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 1:07PM [Link] |
| bowie Member 513 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 2:31PM [Link] |
| s2x Member The biggest Jenna Haze fan... 43 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 3:23PM [Link] |
| Rich_John_Loaded Member mamas, please let your babies grow up to be pornstars. 49 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 4:06PM RIP Haley. [Link] |
| Chorlini Member Centauri Pervert 18 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 4:19PM [Link] |
| kathryn annelle Member 87 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 7:10PM Kathy [Link] |
| ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 9:51PM [Link] |
| jrv Senior Member 1266 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 9:55PM The coroner's office told both Charlie @ Fox Magazine and AVN that there were no signs drugs were involved, which means no obvious track marks and no drugs were found near her body. The toxicology report should be in soon and let them finalize a cause of death. As for Chico, he's been out of porn since leaving Anabolic as far as I know. It may be he no longer has connections to anyone in the industry. I wouldn't make much of the police interviewing him: it's likely they always talk to the husband whenever there's a death of a 26 year-old woman with no obvious cause, if nothing else to see if he any idea what may have happened. [Link] |
| PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Oct 3 2007 : 8:32AM RIP Haley. World Class Adult Reviews [Link] |
| rc7394 Senior Member 1109 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Oct 3 2007 : 6:07PM [Link] |
| devinnlane Devinn Lane 429 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Oct 3 2007 : 6:18PM xoxo Devinn [Link] |
| noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Oct 3 2007 : 7:08PM [Link] |
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| axlsfury Senior Member 1110 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Oct 3 2007 : 7:54PM Axl [Link] |
| LostInThought New Member 2 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Oct 3 2007 : 10:06PM [Link] |
| porn lover Member 14 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 12:07AM If that is in fact true her mother deserves no sympathy and deserves to burn in hell [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 12:57AM |
| sweeptheleg Member Bunny Luv (now the fabulous director Celeste! So gorgeous!) 27 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 3:00AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 3:48AM [Link] |
| veronica moser Member NYC 208 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 7:56AM RP: your words have always been quite thoughtful, in my experience on ADT. Such as this, from the thread I already referenced… "When I see a woman like that on screen, I really can't help but feel a connection with her. I don't know that I'd call it love but I know she's staring right through that camera and I know she's speaking to whom ever may be watching on a subconscious level and what she's saying. This is rare but anyone who's been watching porn long enough will know exactly what I'm talking about." I don't know precisely how she died. And I did not know her. And I wouldn't call her an artist. However, someone who plays a part in the manufacturing of shoelaces or toothbrushes cannot put a personal stamp upon that product—maybe they can, but neither I nor 99.99% of humanity can detect it and it cannot seriously be compared to how someone manifests their sexuality, whether its a "performance" or not. Even Andrea Dworkin would have to acknowledge this. Your words above indicate that some porn gals have communicated to you in a personal way. I responded many times to Haley, and I'm only suggesting that, since some porn gals communicate something personal to me and are not merely a consortium of three holes, milk- and shit-bags to me, that the evident complications of the creation of pornography give me pause (the Porn News thread about this matter contains many informed comments along these lines, from the likes of Alana Evans and Mike Quasar). I'm just suggesting that folks contemplate the human costs of anything that they care about, particularly if they have a detailed appreciation of that thing they care about. Which it would seem to describe most people who frequent this forum. [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 9:45AM Yes a pornstar may touch you in some way but you cannot and do not have any hope of having any real influence on their life be it positive or negative. there is nothing we could have said or done or watched or not watched that would have changed the path for this young girl, even the girls who post here are posting basically as their porn characters not their real self's, we don't know the real people behind the performance and we never will. [Link] |
| veronica moser Member NYC 208 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 10:24AM not trying to fuck with anyone, but not one phrase that you have written addresses the essence of what I'm saying. which is merely to think and reflect upon the complex ecosystem of consumption and production of this kind of entertainment. In no way am I suggesting that there is a concrete cause and effect in this situation. if Wheat doesn't agree, fine. he/she seems to be a reasonable person. [Link] |
| passerby Member 42 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 6:45PM Stories like this put me off watching porn. If the poeple in the industry can't take any care of one another, who the fuck else is going to? [Link] |
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| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 6:57PM [Link] |
| ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 5 2007 : 12:40AM [Link] |
| absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Oct 5 2007 : 10:55AM 25 is just so damn young... Whether she died from natural causes or her death was self inflicted/by the hands of another, no parent should EVER have to bury/outlive their child. When events like this occur, I find myself struggling with how I feel about both the adult industry and myself as a consumer. It's difficult not to feel like you were an equal catalyst for the performer's exploitation and demise. I have always enjoyed adult movies, without guilt. My wife enjoys them as well. It's just that things like this make any half decent person take a step back to look at the big picture. The toughest thing is forming a fair opinion when you don't know all of the ins and outs of the business. (no pun intended.) I am not trying to point fingers, because I'm sure that a lot of people in the adult community genuinely care for the talent's physical/mental well being. I can tell by the sentiments shared on this board. Unfortunately, there is that old saying about the "bad apples" and what they do to the whole bunch.... In times like this it's not easy to not let that color one's opinion. May this poor lost soul rest in peace, may she find the peace in death that eluded her in life. [Link] |
| ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 5 2007 : 2:35PM [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Oct 5 2007 : 2:57PM Whatever personal issues, career choices, family and "friends" people have, one, typically, doesn't deserve to die over them. And, as has been mentioned, 25 is way too young to die. I'm at a loss and profoundly saddened  Haley Paige will be missed.  [Link] |
| LostInThought New Member 2 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 1:22AM [Link] |
| peartist Member 21 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 2:22AM [Link] |
| WhiteBOY Member 305 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 9:13AM [Link] |
| ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 1:05PM [Link] |
| ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 1:13PM [Link] |
| absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 4:35PM Edited by - absynth on 10/6/2007 4:36:27 PM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 5:07PM [Link] |
| Knocko Member 533 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 6:25PM this is depressing........i was not a super fan but she did so many scenes that she is on several of the DVDs in my collection......i would check out her scene sometimes and i always liked them & derived pleasure from them......now, with this news.....can i do that again? it will feel too weird.......sometimes i wonder if being a porn consumer is morally defensible..... [Link] |
| ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 7:00PM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 7:19PM As for choices a person makes as an adult, such as romatic partners, a parent has little to do with that. Whether parental approval has any effect or not is usually determined by the type of relationship between the parent and the child. Human beings are able to make their own choices once they become adults, including whom to date and marry. They are not obligated to abide by their parents approval. I doubt if her mother approved of her working in porn either, but that didn't seem to matter. People need to quit trying to hold parents' to blame for everything under the sun that happens to a person. [Link] |
| WhiteBOY Member 305 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 7:28PM [Link] |
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