I love to handle women, run my hands all over every inch of their body, I never see this in porn. There is nothing hotter than standing behind a woman and running your hands all over her breasts, tummy ets while she grinds your cock. There is so little actual sensual handling of women in porn. Why. Women love good hands and it adds a genuine chemistry and a sense of closeness. Lex does it a bit but most male performers barely touch the woman during sex.
I've watched so many films where the female has a killer ass of tits that is barely touched by the performers hands. Weird. unnatural I would say!
Its a good point of which I have observed myself. When you really come down to it, most of these porn guys have good staying power and such, but really don't know how to fuck very well.
well i LOVE a man-handling!! Just watched take no prisoners...and jules and his mate have no problems handling women!! The Britney skye scene was soooo hot!!! she was tied up and aqnd rubbed and caressed senseless throughout her fun time ....she at one point looked totally delerious!! unable to believe how much pleasure she was getting...i tell you, it makes a girl jealous! wow! but def not enough of it around x
Normally woman know how to do it and they do it with other woman, so Lesbian movies show this handling. I think it's done in TonyC's films where you have real couples.
Porn is an industry where everything is allowed, but when it comes to kissing many deny it.
When you watch regular porn where the man is just fulfilling his duty as a machine, and after that you look at a flick where the man is soft and gently doing his foreplay it's a bit strange. Maybe companies are afraid to alter the mage of man they created....
Most gonzo porn is so genital-centric that it precludes almost all of what you mentioned. I think stems from why many people watch gonzo to begin with - to get off. And what tends to get guys off the quickest is the fucking and sucking, and in particular, the money shot.
The problem is that even in movie series that purport to be focused on tits or ass or legs, for example, the tease is often abbreviated. I'm still waiting for a true gonzo tit-worship series by one of the bigger studios. As good as the Young Ripe Melons series can be from time to time, it still falls far short of what it could be in the hands of a true tit fan. I mean, when are we going to see extended footage of a girl making love to her own breasts, with plenty of nipple play - licking and sucking them as she stares into the camera?
Jules Jordan comes a lot closer with the Ass Worship series. And I believe the old Stagliano Butt Man series was one of the inspirations for Jules' work.
I have heard that some of the movies that ADT's own Tony C (Comstock Productions) makes are more organic and in line with what you're looking for, but I can't confirm that.
To me, spontaneous caresses are a sign of good chemistry between the two performers. When a guy is into a girl, he wants to touch her all over, and vice versa. When the talent can't keep their hands or their eyes off each other, the scene smokes. There are a few guys that are more handsy than others, and those are the men I look for in cast lists when I'm shopping for movies. Those guys are usually kissers too, if the girl's receptive to that.
Wrong....that seems to be the case with a certain group of guys who are more vocal about. The fact that not every guy sits in front of a computer expressing how he gets off does not mean that those who seem to spend more time in front of a computer got it right.....
I always thought that the reason so many scenes lacked caressing was that it would obscure the viewer's view of the girl's body. I figured guys don't want to see a the stud's hands; they want to see as much of the girl's skin as possible. Is that not the case? I've learned lately that I've been wrong in a lot of my assumptions about porn and its audience.
I also always thought that a stud would refrain from touching a girl if he simply doesn't like her; if he's just doing his job.
Not speaking for all guys, but this guy likes when the performers eagerly feel each other up. Heck, I remember specifically requesting 'roving hands' in a long-ass description of what kind of scene I'd like shot.
lol kperv..roving hands sounds like the sexiest thing..yumm maybe there should be a roving groping hands series..ooh in public...but with close ups of wet pussy and thumping clittys being touched up by dirty men..also i would like to propose big hands fiddling in little panties...and pantie tugging...all wonderful pastimes...
where can i find me some big roving hands?...sigh:)
Yeah, i think it is a little bit to do with obstructing filming angles.
Sometimes when you see the 'me time' fucking in bts take-outs then the performers seem far more sensual with one another.
I think as Cumwhipper said, it is about getting guys off first and foremost - with the focus on pussy and ass.
A genred tit title needn't focus on only massive breasts, it just needs to be thought out and captured intelligently. SO much of the gonzo fans time is spent working out which titles have been put together carefully rather than just rushed off the production line.
A tit movie or a leg movie could have the intensity of a Baker's Dozen - but so rarely do they hit the same level of strokability or intensity.
A great example of girls rubbing their hands all over each other - backs, legs, shoulders as well as the obvious places - is at the start of a Brazilian foursome in Les Perversions 4. The rest of the scene is awesome too.
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1042 Posts 6/05
Posted - Jan 11 2006 : 12:32PM
yet another thread pointing out how badly porn differs from the way we fuck in real life. At least people recognize this.
Yeah, I've noticed this too. It seems to be a modern trend in porn where literally the only contact between the actors is penetration, nothing more. But you might as well complain about the lack of intimacy, soft kissing, and playful banter during the scenes, too.
In porn the performers are there to fuck . It's just about physical, very little emotion - only chemistry & only sometimes.
I guess what you are describing is often much more than that. Just like if you pick up a hooker she will do anything but kiss you (so I have been told).
Although some performers wouldn't mind being groped, I think some would.
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Jan 11 2006 : 3:09PM
Amen, JamesB. Especially when it's one of my favorite stars, fullbody shots of hugging, grinding, kissing--and it's even better if she is doing a little hand-exploring too--is great foreplay, and can be even more stroke-inducing than the soulless ball-pounding that often follows.
I like hardcore, i.e., I want to see the explicit action, but for those with healthy attitudes towards women, displays of erotic affection only enhance the scene, IMHO.
This is my issue..I love women and I love to see them treated well, even when the scene is hot and the action is hard its fantastic to see this more sensual aspect.
Take Rocco for instance, he fucks hard and creatively and the women are taken to their limits and beyond but you can tell that he just loves them. He makes those chicks feel special, almost like they are the only girl he has ever fucked which is what makes him an all time great.
Stroking a woman the right way is a beautiful thing and as any woman will tell you, if you stroke her the right way she will do anything for you. I love hard action but I hate all the pound, pound, pound boys in porn.
too right...you get more bang for your buck if you rub and tug a little first! you can see the sparks fly...esp with Rocco...would give my right arm to be fucked by rocco!
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Jan 13 2006 : 2:30PM
Apparently, we are in the minority as far as the buying public goes.
According to my take on most modern releases, artificially "nasty" sluttishness along with sophomoric gynecologic (proctologic?) attention to close-ups of gaping assholes sells, and we must be weenies to want a little hugging, kissing and affection with our porn.
I can't blame the producers for doing what sells, but I can criticize their products' cynical anti-eroticism.
I'd love to see more kissing in videos. It's way hotter than just watching people fuck, which mostly is kind of boring without something else going on. I guess that's why I love the BJ sequences, cos you can see the girl's eyes, and because she usually talks a little (even if it's "Gmmmmphhh ... slobber ... MmmmgggggUhhhhnf!") Tongues are sexy.
I agree that sometimes a more sophisticated viewer would like to see this type of scene. I myself would love to see the beginning start with a lady completely dressed and then have it be taken off - one piece at a time before the foreplay and sex. It makes for a more intimate scene. Also, with some nice dialog to go along with the action would not hurt matters!
But I think the way things are produce now; most females cannot even speak and the directors only know hardcore rough stuff and have no real romantic agenda even with their personal affairs it seems from their directing in the videos. Okay so I took a swipe at you directors - and on the female directors then do the reverse all soft stuff with no passion only fluff footage. What is needed is a script?
Anyways, hardcore rough stuff gonzo is selling so; who am I to question success?