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Hardz
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Hell on Earth
877 Posts
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Posted - Feb 3 2003 : 10:07AM
Christoph Clark is, in my opinion, the finest director of anal porn and eye candy.

His films excel because the guy not only knows how to capture the best anal scenes but prevents the viewer from getting 'total naked chick in every flick' boredom , by keeping the girls in sexy outfits during the sex scenes.

But recent release's have me worried. He seems to be moving away from intense anal 'n fetish to tame, naked pussy sex
(like theres a shortage of these types of releases or something)

the box for hardball # 19 looks way too tame for a hardball movie.

(like theres a shortage of these types of releases or something)

the box for hardball # 19 looks way too tame for a hardball movie.

(like there's a shortage of these types of release's or something)

the box for hardball # 19 looks way too tame for a hardball movie.

Come on Mr Clark, sort it out already !

Edited by - Hardz on May 4 2003

Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 3 2003 : 11:08AM
Hi,
I know I'm getting old but didn't we learn something growing up?....something about judging books by their covers....those crazy sayings....

Max Booty
As evil plans go, it doesn't suck.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Feb 3 2003 : 1:12PM
I agree with Maximum Booty. The boxcover for the Assman serie for example are also not very hardcore but the content is.

I doubt CC is going tame, it would not be good if he would.

Hardz
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Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Feb 4 2003 : 4:59AM
Well, having seen the recent releases like this one...
which only contained one very good anal/anal gape scene, I'm a little concerned.

I know the Beautiful Girls series is not meant to be like the Hardballs, but look at the amazing anal scenes in #4.

Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Feb 4 2003 : 1:18PM
I think we need to step back, take a breath, and take a look around us, if we have reached the point where Beautiful Girls 7 is considered "tame." Of course there are movies out there with more anal, more roughness, etc., but BG7 is full of strong sex, of people fucking each other with maximum energy, and I believe the overwhelming majority of people who get exposed to it would consider it extremely hardcore.
 
Hardz
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Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - May 4 2003 : 6:31AM
Well guys, I've just seen this and my initial fears came true.

As an anal feature it's good but this title should never have been released as a Hardball movie.

The Euro Hardball series is perhaps the finest anal themed series in porn and is recognised by showing the harder edge in anal sex, anal toys and fetish outfits.

This release has virtually non of the above.

I sincerely hope #20 will actually be a true Hardball movie.

Ingenmann
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My 3d Porn
113 Posts
1/03
Posted - May 4 2003 : 7:10AM
According to the EA website Hardball 20 contains both a skinny jew, big bobs and rape. Interesting combinations and something for everyone

From EA:
Christoph’s Hardball series has won multiple awards, and this one just might take 2003. The sex is over the top! Michelle Wild has amazing natural tits and takes on two guys in a scene that will drain you. Christoph thinks tall, big-boobed Eva should win Best Group Scene — not for the skinny Jew she starts out with (me), but for the three guys who seemingly rape her afterward.

Edited by - ingenmann on 5/4/2003 4:27:22 PM

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - May 4 2003 : 2:32PM
I agree that Hardball 19 is among the most tame of the Hardball's and may have been better marketed if not called a Hardball.

Christoph is very sensitive to the wants of his fans, and he had gotten a bunch of negative comments recently regarding that they were "bored" with seeing nothing but gapes and hard sex with no fun in the scene. So he tamed it down. Perhaps too much.

However, I ASSURE you that will not be the case for Hardball 20. Christoph goes back to his true Hardball days ala fetish clothing, anal gapes, and anal galore!

Hardz
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Hell on Earth
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6/01
Posted - May 4 2003 : 3:11PM
Thanx for your reply Trish.

I truly believe that producers/Directors should stick to what they are good at.

Christoph has a huge following because fans know what they are getting.

He also has a number of softer lines (Beautiful Girls for example) that can satisfy the fluffy bunny crowd and Hardball 19 would have been right at home there.

HARDBALL is a unique series and should remain HARD , so please Trish remind Christoph that he is one of the finest anal directors ever and fans like me will always buy his stuff as long as he crams every HARDBALL with the biggest anal toys 'n and the biggest anal gapes.

Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - May 4 2003 : 4:43PM
I'm one of the people who claimed that Clark's stuff was getting boring, and I think his work during the past two years has been way ahead of most of what he produced previously. I found something like Beautiful Girls 7 to be damn near the perfect porn movie for my taste, and state of the art for what porn should be in 2003. It had pretty women, high energy, and a good mix of anal and non-anal performers that allowed everyone involved to have the maximum fun. I don't understand how "fluffy bunnies" enter into this at all, unless we are supposed to believe that any scene that lacks DP, DAP or DPP is "tame" and for wimps. That makes as much sense as if I were to suggest that all scenes that include these acts are designed to appeal to closeted bisexuals who want to see two men close to each other.

I guess I am just confused about what was lacking in Hardball 19. I recall girl after girl after girl getting things put up her butt, and that seems firmly in the Hardball tradition.

Hardz
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Posted - May 4 2003 : 5:11PM
I was critiquing dude.

Beautiful Girls # 7 and Hardball # 19 are no different from the 100's of other dvd's on the market.

I'm not questioning your manhood just because I refer to these types of films as soft, but if you compare Hardball #16 (for example) to the above two titles, you'll understand what I mean by hardcore.

Manolo
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South America.
148 Posts
2/02
Posted - May 4 2003 : 5:25PM
I agree, Hardball #19 was lame stuff. Peoplehavingfun-noanal-nodps=nofunforme
Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 4 2003 : 6:08PM
Bored with gapes and hard sex? Are you sure they were Christopf Clark fans? Anyway, I'm glad I know I don't have to waste my money on Hardball 19.
I hope you're right Tricia because the thought of softer Christopf Clark scares the shit out of me!
Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - May 4 2003 : 6:44PM
Hardz, thanking you for stating your follow-up, because you certainly did make it sound like an attack on the "manhood" of anyone who doesn't share your taste.

I have seen Hardball 16, and it was a return in form to what Clark had done a few years earlier, only with nice modern touches, such as having the women be more than disposable sex dolls. I think my biggest point about Clark's recent work is that he put a human face on his sex scenes, whereas in the past, it was often a bunch of guys standing around laughing and joking about how cool they were, instead of focusing on the sex. I think the times simply changed, as actors such as Manuel Ferrara entered the porn world, and were capable of more than the guys of the past, at the same time that women arrived who could project sexuality while getting a hard buttfucking and similar acts. Clark took advantage of these new dimensions and possiblities to let his work grow, while still keeping it hardcore.

I think those of us who watch a lot of a particular line or series, such as Clark's work, get too close to it at times. It can be good to get an outsider's view, such as Astroknight's review of Hardball 19. He found it plenty hardcore, and also plenty stimulating, and I keep that in mind whenever I wonder if Clark is going "soft."

tricia_devereaux
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Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
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Posted - May 4 2003 : 6:52PM
I don't need movies to include DPs and anal toys and gapes and stuff, and that's why I agree with Speelie that Beautiful Girls 7 was a really good movie.

However, as I mentioned before I was also agreeing that if Christoph has a series called Hardball that has certain types of things that his fans of that series have come to expect, it might be the best thing for him to continue those things IN THAT series.

 
Wally
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Posted - May 4 2003 : 7:43PM
Well said Tricia, I think what Speelie is missing here is that there is a reason why one series is called HARDBALL and the other one BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. I totally understand why he thinks HB19 was a good video. But again last time I check, the HARDBALL series was never about the tame sexual content you find in reversgangbangs or 1b/ggggggg scenes. ..On the other hand I just saw Beautiful Girls #9 and if you ask me, it is a good movie, but if the same scenes where found in a Hardball video I wouldn't be saying the same. At the end is about the expectations that the TITLE and your knowledge of the Director's work, create. ..that's why I believe to put Astronigth's review as an argument that HB19 was very hardcore is not valid.



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