Being in my mid 30's I don't remember bigger booties in porn vids/mags unless it was labeled as bbw. Nowadays its fashionable for even non black women to be considered attractive among their counterparts. I'm sure there have always been non black men who admired more than just skinny legged women, but I wonder if the tastes of black (maybe hispanic) me thru hip hop has made it more acceptable in the mainstream and porn.
Hey wait a minute, if you walk any mall or street on a club night.....most of the woman in America have curves, more weight...(LBS)..than any Madison Avenue fake bony models. Give Seymore Butts and John Stagliano some love for the start of the crossover away from just blondes, skinny and the usual suspects, when these guys lusted after the big booty it became KOOL! If you go to a club 7 in 10 women will have some meat on them and either be size 6 and up dress size. Not the size 0-2 skinny bitches Maxium loves....aka Kate(who I hate)Moss. Real Woman have curves and a nice ASS, hooray!!! Edited by - alfan on 12/29/2009 2:53:54 PM
I hope human beings are not so mindless that we don't know what we like unless pop culture tells us what we should like. I would prefer to think that it was just inevitable because there's just so much to love about a big butt and curves are just as visually appealing on a woman as they are on anything else. I'd hope a man could just look at a woman with a nice big butt and say "Damn!". It was never going to stand forever that skinny was the undisputed definition of beauty. If you look at Renaissance nudes, you can clearly see that fuller figured women were considered attractive in those times. Edited by - randomprecision on 12/29/2009 4:08:58 PM
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Posted - Dec 29 2009 : 4:15PM
I also have always like curvy women but I have to say younger girls with curves these days is an iffy situation. Wiggers are a complete turn off for me. Think more of the curves on that red head on Mad-men . Now there's some ass !
NAH!!!! Men have always liked curvy women. Just look at old movie stars and old paintings. It is just finally the media has caught up with reality. Men like big tits and asses. The old hour glass figure, not some pop cycle stick.
Q. Has Hip Hop Culture Affected Taste of Women? A. Not IMHO, from experince women have a similar taste to each other regardless of their musical persuasion.
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Posted - Jan 30 2010 : 10:46AM
Well most white woman that I am friend with listen to hop hip but some black woman who I know don't listen to it because rapper called them bitches and ho.
I prefer skinny women but I also like curvey and voluptuous women...and it's not due to hip hop, a style and music that I completely despise.....but I do believe that many men and women are influenced by what they see on TV and in videos.
Absolutely true. Take a look at the pornographic drawings from the 19th and early 20th century. The ideal female, according to what we see in art and literature, has overwhelmingly been of medium or large build, with ample breasts and wide hips. A decent layer of fat on a woman was a sign that she was healthy and nourished. Large breasts signified gave the suggestion of a decent food supply for potential offspring; broad hips and a wide arse implied fertility and less risk of complications during labor. Now, I wouldn't blame gay fashion designers. Throughout the 21st century, as food production, nutritional science, and obstetrics and gynecological care exponentially improved; the western world's cultural norm of ideal body mass slowly changed to favor a more muscular/toned look with significantly less fat. This is true in both men and women. In addition, we, as a society, have experienced a series of unique decades where ample cocaine and heroin use trickled into every facet of our culture. I believe this influenced our fixation on the ultra skinny more than any one single event -- although it's important to realize that this was generally only possible due to the significant advances we had already made in health sciences to 'support our habits.' Enforced partly by the AIDS scare of the late 80's, we've experienced a gradual return to historical norms as the heroin-chic model from the frantic-glam decade lost some of its appeal. This reversal to a healthier standard continues today, lead in part by a strong movement to set realistic goals for women, and a cultural emphasis on natural or old-world health. I also agree with the OP and others, that an ever increasing presence of non-white women seen as sex-objects and role-models has sped the positive cultural shift. But anyways... after all that, I still have a slight preference for petite stick women and the heroin-chic. I'm a product of the 80's, and always will be ;) Edited by - smokedbacon on 1/30/2010 11:38:23 AM
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Posted - Feb 2 2010 : 9:08PM
Men have always liked curves, but America has a worsening epidemic weight problem. The obesity trend has affected Hip-Hop. What you are thinking about is new to hip-hop.
Skinny legged women CAN HAVE CURVES !!!, Only have to remember a young Helen Slater at 20s. She was and still very skinny. Lots of models have curves. Eva Herzigova and Adriana Sklenarikova for example. Baltic and East Europe states have lots of skinny curved young womens.
Speaking as a black man, I can tell you we have always liked booty! Always! Prior to Sir Mix-A-Lot and 2 Live Crew videos, the booty of American sex symbols was always ignored in favor of the bust. Farrah Fawcett, Bo Derek, Cheryl Tiegs...you never saw any butt shots from them. And when you think about it, wouldn't it have been quite shocking to see, say, Lynda Carter, in the 70s, sticking her butt out to the camera? I mean, the 70s was still a fairly conservative time, disco and the birth of porn aside. But when music videos came along and started, for better or for worse, displaying women's assets in full, everyone started noticing butt. You have to understand, most rappers spend a lot of time in strip clubs where butt-shaking is a main feature. As for the anorexic models, I think it's pretty well accepted that the fashion houses of New York, Milan, and Paris are on a different plane of reality than the rest of us. Both in terms of the clothes they design and the models who wear them. Neither has any real representation in the real world. I've never seen anyone (even the wealthy) wearing those ugly dog rags that continually get displayed on runways. And conversely, the women, especially the gaunt, Kate-Moss lookalikes are hardly reflect real women. I have never known a heavy or curvy woman who had trouble finding a man. NEVER. IMHO, Hip Hop videos told the world not to be scared of the booty, and told women not to be afraid to show it!
Has the big ass taking over in porn I say no if you look at any adult awards best ass never goes to the girl that really has the best ass. It's a small/med ass that wins. Hip hop might have help thicker girls in porn go from a fetish to more main stream
There's truth to this. While many here claim to have always loved big butts and such it wasn't really until J-Lo became a big time celeb and more people started accepting the beauty of big butts. Before Jennifer Lopez became the poster girl for bubble butts most actresses with big butts tried their best to hide them. Was there an actress/celeb with a sizable rump before J-Lo that went out of their way to show off their butt? Was there a time before J-Lo that so many women had so many pics taken of them from behind? Once J-Lo made it acceptable and more big butt women became comfortable with their butts you saw a change in fashion to highlight the butt. You heard about more flat butt women doing exercises to try and beef up their rear ends. I'm not saying J-Lo was the first celeb to have a big butt, or that some people didn't like bubble butts before she came along but I difinately think she played a very big part in making bubble butts acceptable and popular for the white mases.
That's interesting. Since I'm 37 years old and clearly remember being attracted to fuller figures as soon as I started to become attracted to females. To my memory, "J-Lo" was not known at that time. And frankly, though I like big butts, I have never been a fan of J-Lo anyhow.
Maybe but that doesn't mean men didn't like them. It just means a lot of women were obviously too self-conscious. Because they were listening to people who didn't know what the fuck they were talking about and thought you had to be a toothpick to be attractive. Now I'm not saying slender isn't attractive in some cases. It can be. Just that it often isn't necessary.
^ LOL! How'd you post my quotes and still manage to ignore what I said? I clearly state that many people were atracted to big butts it wasn't until J-Lo that many others started accepting big butts and women were more accepting of their big butts. After J-Lo you can see a change in appreciation for bigger butts from the masess in the white community. And whether or not you like J-Lo doesn't really factor into what happened in society as a whole.
Depends janine always had a big gorgeous ass that even the black guys could control themselves when fucking her and ashlyn gere is one old school girl who I wouldn't mind tonueing that thing but some have gone way to far
Good point. There are big asses and there are bubble butts. They aren't always the same. Sasha grey has a "bubble but" but her ass isn't big. Lisa Sparxx has a big ass but it isn't a bubble butt (that's not a putdown). Cherokee D'ass has a big ass that's a bubble butt. Roseanne Barr and Oprah have big butts. J-Lo and Kim Kardashian have bubble butts.
Exactly..Very good point.. On the subject, its not the WHOLE hip hop culture, i say this coz the topic is misleading ! We can say the mainstream hiphop