"Word on the Street" is usually nonsense. Unfortunately in this case it can be a self fulfilling prophesy. The "Word on the Street" that benefits Blu-Ray is largely because of the same stores as said above, namely BB and CC are pushing people toward BD. Until recently HD-DVD had all the momentum. They had lots more releases and sold many more players than BD. The players were (And still are), less than half the price of BD. The quality of BD especially in the beginning, was not up to par with HD-DVD. Now with a flurry of releases of Blu-Ray, and the PS3 sales, BD has now just taken the lead in discs sold. It wasn't too long ago that some neutral experts deemed HD-DVD the winner. Now BD has the momentum.
I'm happy to say that I think HD-DVD will make there own big push in a couple months when they have big time releases like the Matrix Trilogy and the LOTR trilogy. A couple months after that there will be chinease players hitting the market that will retail for between $225.00 and $300.00. I think HD-DVD will one again have the upper hand when this takes shape. After that, all it will take is for one or two studios that are BD exclusive to go neutral for HD-DVD to take a huge lead in the war. Even then, we will probably have to contend with competing formats for quite a while. I think if the porn industry makes great strides in the future with HD-DVD, it can be the straw that breaks Blu-Ray's back.
Indeed. Bring it on! The added realism would by far make up for whatever minor imperfections. And if I like the performer, minor imperfections are no issue at all.
So, tell us the great things about the PS3. How many games are available for it? Not many, huh? How does that compare to the XBox 360? Ooh, XBox has quite a few more, doesn't it?
How well does the PS3 work as a Blu-ray DVD player for people with consolidated home theater remote controls? It doesn't? Oh, that right, the PS3 uses Bluetooth for their remote instead of the HD industry standards of Infrared (IR) or Radio Frequency (RF). If someone doesn't have a stereo receiver with HDMI connections, how can they use the PS3 to hear the uncompressed audio from a Blu-ray disc? Oh, that's right. They can't. That's because the PS3 doesn't have 5.1 analog audio outputs that other players do.
Some day, the PS3 may be a great gaming system. But not yet. It will never be a particularly good Blu-ray player for people who are somewhat serious about home theater.
When I bought my Blu-ray player, the PS3 wasn't even an option.
Does anyone who is "serious" about home theater use a gaming console as a player for movies? I've always considered them to be sub-standard in almost every way: Some of these consoles don't reliably play dual layer disks. The remotes that are available suck. The players have slow user interfaces. The interfaces are poorly designed. How good is the output quality? Hard to say, but I'm guessing that the best console is going to pale in comparison to a dedicated player with good video output. In summary, perhaps all of the things you wrote about the PS3 are true (despite it seeming a bit like bashing), but the player argument is *almost* irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted - Mar 11 2007 : 7:02PM
And what about the game magazines and sites that say that it's dissapointing in many ways? Are they just PS3 bashers? Stop drinking the kool aid. Just because you dropped 600 bucks on what so far is a dissapointment, don't act as if everyone has some conspiracy against PS3 or Sony. If it got good reviews, I would have bought it already. That way, I'd have Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.
No. But it's currently the player that "Joe Six Pack" uses for watching Blu-ray discs.
I know about 5 people who got PS3's as Christmas presents for their kid. Of them, only one owns any Blu-ray discs, other than "Talledega Nights", which came with the PS3.
Well, the PS3 is supposed to be different. I've read reviews stating that the PS3 is better than most hardware players out there in terms of picture quality. I don't know if that's true though. But it makes sense if you think about it. PS3 is Sony's most important stronghold in the format war so it's logical they tried to make the best out of it. Some even say the PS3 is more of an Blu-Ray player to them than anything else.
I think I said it before but I thought the adult-industry would decide who would win between HD-DVD and Blu-ray because VHS won because the adult-industry went with VHS instead of Beta or Video 2000. Now it seems the vote of the adult-industry isn't that important, it's the gaming-industry that's dictating. Is the game industry making more money than the adult-industry? I mean if Sony has the balls to say no porn on Blu-ray than he has a lot of confident in his product especially in the PS3, pretty risky knowing Sony will not have HALO3 ;-)
It's really hard to ever know what Sony is thinking. They always have their priorities all fucked up. When they actually do come up with a good idea, such as Digital 8, they don't really capitalize on it to the extent to which they could with better marketing. If they make one mistake more than anyone else, it's that they depend on the Sony name to sell their products. They've gotten lazy and their products (which used to be some of the best you could buy anywhere) are now run of the mill. They're too busy trying to innovate to build today's products better than anyone else.
It might actually be a disaster for the world of electronics if Sony gets a success with Blu-Ray.
Not sure if you're aware, Sony codeveloped Compact Disc (CD) with Phillips. I'd call that an amazing success. Sony and Phillips codeveloped a precursor to DVD called MMCD, which was eventually integrated into the DVD specification which all 10 founding companies agreed upon after being forced to choose one standard by the computer companies.
Sony and Phillips came up with BD together and now have almost every major electronics manufacturer in their camp. I've stated this repeatedly, yet you refuse to acknowledge it, instead insisting that Sony "pisses you off", and that you just don't like them.
And exactly why do you draw this conclusion? Please see above about the majority backing BD. I'm not trying to start a fight here, but I'm rather frustrated by the incredible anti-BD sentiment in this thread and others. You're seemingly well considered, yet you either didn't read what I wrote, or just refuse to believe it.
Blu-ray titles are outselling HD DVD titles this year basically for one reason:
Blu-ray is releasing more movies that customers want.
So far in 2007, HD-DVD has released the following "Day and Date" titles:
The Departed Babel Hollywoodland
So far in 2007, Blu-ray has released the following "Day and Date" titles:
The Departed Babel Casino Royale The Holiday Stranger Than Fiction The Prestige Running With Scissors Flyboys Open Season The Guardian Saw III Employee Of The Month Gridiron Gang Crank The Covenant
Blu-ray is averaging about 4 or 5 new releases every week...HD DVD is lucky to have that many PER MONTH.
So, is it any wonder Blu-ray's been outselling HD DVD?!
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00
Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 3:01PM
If I don't use just 1 home theatre remote, and my stereo receiver has HDMI connections, then for me the PS3 might work just fine as an entry-level Blu-ray player at home.
After NAB, I'll be getting standalone Blu-ray and HD-DVD players at the office. But at home, I only need the capabilities.
As far as gaming system, my daughter is still really young and doesn't necessarily need the BEST gaming system. But she does get seriously upset if her movies aren't available. Not able to buy Open Season on HD-DVD? Boo. She currently has a PS2, so we'd have the bonus of her being able to switch out the PS2 for the PS3, rather than keep the PS2 AND get an XBox360.
I don't know... I'm in it for the movies not the games.
I don't think that HD porn is going to be a major factor in deciding the winner of this format war. Given the fact that HD porn is going to carry a relatively significant premium in cost over SD porn until the format war is over and the "masses" start buying into High Definition DVD technology.
The titles being released on Blu-ray and not on HD DVD is what caused me to purchase the Sony Blu-ray player to go along with my Toshiba HD DVD player.
Absolutely. But I think that you will agree that you are different than the majority of "early adopters".
From what I've been reading on the Home Theater boards, a large percentage of people in this group are using consolidated remotes and have expensive receivers that are 3 or 4 years old, which is before HDMI connections existed, and can't justify dropping a couple thousand dollars on a new receiver in order to save a couple hundred dollars by purchasing a PS3 instead of a stand alone unit.
Is she currently playing her video games on the HDTV? Most people that I know are playing their video games on TV's other than the main one in the house (usually in one of the kid's bedrooms). That makes using the video game system as a DVD player inconvenient just because it needs to be moved from one room to the other in order to watch a movie (as long as the kid isn't playing a video game at the same time that his parents want to watch a movie).
That's the whole problem, nobody will win this war because there's not really a battle, both formats will stay and the consumers will be forced to buy both formats if they don't want to miss anything. That sucks! I mean it's not like Microsoft all of a sudden will start making games on blu-ray and Sony on HD-DVD. Seeing how the 360 is doing better than PS3 I see HD-DVD becoming more populair though.
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00
Posted - Mar 15 2007 : 2:12PM
I've already been seeing dual-format players in the stores here. They can play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, and cost less than buying both, plus you don't have to have two bulky players hooked up, IF you'd have two HD inputs anyway.
I have seen this player too. I believe its the LG player if its the same one we are talking about. The only downside of this player is it doesn't fully take advantage of the HD DVD menu designs and extras etc. And since LG is part of the blu ray camp (along with pioneer,panasonic,samsung,etc) I would think that would be part of the reason for that.
From what I've heard, it doesn't take use the HD DVD menus at all. It supposedly builds it's own generic menus. From what I've seen so far, I've been far more impressed with the interface on HD DVD discs, than I have with Blu-ray discs.
However, to be fair, I've only had my Blu-ray player for a few weeks and have only seen 3 Blu-ray titles so far. So my opinion may change. I got my Blu-ray copy of Casino Royale today, which I plan on watching over the weekend. I'm expecting a lot out of this disc.
Because I like the HD DVD interface so much, I would rather pay extra to buy player in each format, rather than one dual player that builds it's own menus for HD DVD discs.
Fat bottomed girls make the rockin' world go round! 1551 Posts 5/09
Posted - Oct 15 2010 : 12:23AM
*Bump* I have yet to watch any movies on blu-ray. I have watched HD movies, and I've enjoyed the clarity and sharp focus in them. I still don't know which one is the better, HD or blu-ray. I'm just starting on my "collection". I have several DVD's. I don't know whether to just buy a portable hard-drive to store downloaded titles or purchase a blu-ray player and purchase blu-ray discs. Which media holds the best promise for the future of porn? Edited by - dogzcatcher on 10/15/2010 12:25:07 AM
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Posted - Oct 15 2010 : 1:37AM
The "HD" that this thread was about was a format for better DVDs that went head-to-head with Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray won. HD-DVD is dead. If you want to download high-definition videos from the internet, buy the portable hard drive. If you want to rent or buy Blu-Ray movies, buy a Blu-Ray player (or Sony Playstation 3, which has one built-in), or buy a Blu-Ray drive to put in your computer. But be aware that most of the porn industry isn't exactly rushing to put out everything on Blu-Ray.
