OK, this guy obviously first liked the porn...but then the porn started to have 'a negative influence on his life.' (The link is from the official TedX channel.) Stopped Watching Porn He says: 'Porn brought so much anger and violence in my fantasies - and those fantasies were not there originally. Second reason why I stopped watching it was that porn is filmed prostitution.' Well, Mr. Former Porn Lover...If someone has violent fantasies and sees that as a problem - well, then there really IS a problem with that person! In another words, that person has issues. And who knows where this wild violent imagination could lead him to? Maybe it is a good thing he stopped 'consuming' adult industry products. (I'm just curious - did Mr. Former Porn Lover resolve those issues with help of counseling - or did just a talk with his girlfriend help?) I'm no psychiatrist and I'm not quite sure about the part where he says that 'violent fantasies weren't there (in his mind) but they came with aggressive porn'. (For instance, if I want to smash expensive car which some wealthy man drives - did I have those thoughts against rich people before - or did that car and that man 'made' that thoughts and feelings of mine?) 'Porn is not erotica and porn is not about healthy sexual relations.' Ace Ventura would say: 'Reeee-aaaa-eeeeelyyyyyy?' Porn is one thing, erotica is another (that's why there are TWO words, two terms, two meanings). It is like saying: Apples are not like oranges. Mercedes is not like Volvo. Pussy is not like penis. Tractor differs from a car. Healthy sexual relations? Actually, some movies do have warnings: 'Material shown here is not to be taken as normal sexual practice.' Some studios have slogans like 'Stop STDS' at the end of the movies etc. But, when your mind just sees 'unhealthy violent action' in porn, that is, as I said, the viewer's problem. Another 'revelation': 'Porn is all about men dominating women'. I guess this guy never watched any porn on the subject of women dominating and humiliating men, lesbian dominating, trannies banging men etc. Porn has a big variety of themes for every taste. I guess Mr. Former Porn Lover just watched his favourite category where women were humiliated. He continues: 'If we would ask The Porn: What is sexual? Porn would laugh in our face and say: What is sexual? It is everything that men find arousing! So, men find arousing: chocking a women... Sex without one touch, kiss, tenderness...' I guess Mr. Expert never read this:So, the man is complaining about hardness in porn... Maybe he should shift to erotic movies or porn which women make for other women - and he can watch it with his girlfriend. He continues: 'In every mainstream category on the web, we can find rape category side by side with humiliation, abuse category, crying category.' Oh, well - this is just a start. He forgot to mention: snot, drooling, exchanging saliva, spitting, vomit, piss, smelly shoes, feet & socks etc. As i quoted before: If something exists... Another big problem which Mr. Porn Lover Now Denier sees is that 'in 80 or 90 percent of the material, porn is without usage of hands'. (He wants to say that the porn stars don't touch themselves at all.) Really? No hands? How about when a girl blows a guy and he goes thru her hair with his hand? Or the same thing when he licks her and her hands are in his hair? How about playing with balls? Holding an ass? Jerking? Holding her legs in certain sex positions? Fisting? Putting his fingers in her mouth etc. 'Porn cameras have no interest in capturing any normal sensual activity - kissing, touching, hugging...' I think it is sufficient to say that all those thing can be seen in girl-boy action and especially in girl-girl scenes. 'Cameras are all about the penetration.' Among other things, yes. Penetration, blowjobs, ass, mouth, feet. After all, it is PORN, right? 'He's penis is inside her - somewhere inside her...' It would be interesting to find out what should porn be about if not 'penis somewhere in(side) her', especially if we talk about boy-girl scene? Sexual organs are the main tools with which porn actors work, right? [;))] 'The female actor is this uncomfortable position and she needs to handle the penis inside her without damaging the makeup because that's money & time invested in her... The result: two people having sex and the only body parts that touch are penis & pussy... No hands involved.' The guy really has a thing for hands... 'Porn conquers your mind...' I guess like The Beatles conquered the U. S.? [:P)] 'I've lost my ability to imagine.' I watched porn. What was the cost? My all imagination somehow got lost! All that he can think of when he was masturbating was 'women being humiliated and forced into pretending they like diabolic sperm rituals.' In the beginning, porn was 'payed prostitution'. Now it is 'diabolic sperm ritual.' Sperm ritual? Wait a minute! Maybe he talks about bukkake! [:P)] 'We should be careful what we eat - and we should be careful what we watch. What is the nutrition of our mind?' Yes, we should be careful what we watch. Don't watch Hitchcock's North by North West cause you might get paranoid. Be careful when you watch lesbian readheads in group orgy! That could be a bad meal for your mind! This guy thinks karaokes are bad also - he watched it on TV and, again, it influenced his mind. 'I have no talent for singing but I was imaging me performing like Bob Dylan.' Really, Mr. Former Porner! You should get rid of your TV set 'cause it has terrible effect on you! 'Porn teaches that you are valuable as man only if you have a large penis and eternal erection.' Let's see what else does porn teach us: all girls are lesbians or bisex. Readheads have sex all the time. Teens (18+) love old men and mature women crave for young boys. Nuns adore sex. Doctors regularly have fun with the nurses. Sperm is delicious & sweet. No matter how much men are in a bukkake movie for one girl, there isn't enough sperm for her - she want's more. Women can get a raise if she offers her body to her boss. There is an easier way for female students to get better grades from their teachers without studying etc. 20 minutes of porn twice a week was too much for him, he says. I guess he has low tolerance to porn... 'Young boys get paralyzed by watching porn - and if not paralyzed, they go to imitate what they see in a movie.' Sure. 'Have you seen any M. Cyrus or Lady Gaga music videos or commercials? That's porn with the clothes on.' Porn everywhere. Well, it is an old thing. You know:'Porn is sometimes the question of life or death', continues Mr. Porn Expert. (Question marks around my head.) 'Girls who do porn... A lot of them don't make it - the industry spits them out and they return to brothels, into hooking industry, escort... This is the whole spectrum of prostitution. A lot of them don't make to the age of fifty because of drugs, STDS, being murdered by pimp or boyfriend...' He is just trying to be dramatic (with that sexy accent). For him, adult female performers are prostitutes (on camera or off). Pornstar's life expectancy is low 'cause if you are in adult industry, you have to deal with abusive boyfriend, drugs, alcohol and STD. Well, this industry has its pros and cons, good things and bad things and it is up to person if he/she is going to enter this world or not. The guy didn't mention amateur movies which lovers make and put on the internet - I'm sure he would find plenty of kissing, hugging, caressing, gentleness - the things that sometimes are hard to find in big productions. Everybody is entitled to his own opinion. I'm not against this men because I like the industry and he doesn't. I just think he is prejudical, narrow-minded, shallow in arguments, sometimes he's discriminating sex workers, biased etc. In a word, he's against porn but he doesn't offer good arguments...
Many of these guys stopping from porn don't have any true knowledge of it , there's plenty of porn who is not abusive nor violent if he kept finding such dominating and violent porn it's because HE went for it in the first place. Assuming he is a true porn consumer which I really doubt.Also he says that porn is a filmed prostitution which makes no sense , none of those in there are paying to fuck , not even the final user , the customer at home , the one who fuck the girl is also paid for it , so who is the prostitute in there? Who is the john? certainly not someone hundreds of miles away possibly overseas months after the shoot , years in some cases. Also some of them can't make it , it's true and some end into hooking escorting or in brothels as he says but he fails to point out from where they come , they're not girls right out of high school who naively trusted the wrong people , in many cases they were strippers , hookers or worked in brothels , entering porn for a while allow them to get a name , be known get a fanbase , get higher rates or more work while touring feature dancing or just webcamming. So yes some didn't make it, but some didn't even try to make it , they wanted to just raise their earnings. This means that many of those who end up escorting would have done anyway. some things are true though porn may change your sexual behaviour people may discover themselves aroused by things they wouldn't even think without some suggestion. But then again this happens in real life too, ever heard of married with children men who discovered themselves gay? It happens even without porn , actually if porn helps someone to discover his true sexual persona this would save a lot of wasted time looking for the wrong thing. Edited by - LCF on 8/15/2014 12:02:44 PM
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Posted - Aug 15 2014 : 8:23PM
Meh...I don't have 15 mins for the video, shit the posts were too long to read. I think something or someone got in his ear and shamed him into giving up porn. He found God or he got a woman who found out he was into porn and she nagged the shit out of him until he gave it up. If the latter? Poor bastard. Hell if the former too.
Yes! When the guy was talking how porn was bad, I was waiting him to say: 'You know, bukkake... How humiliating for woman that is - and she even doesn't know the names of that 50 or 150 men who cummed on her face!' I agree - it would be better to watch 15 minutes of good porn than this video. But, the guy was so inaccurate and funny in his statements I had to write a comment on it. He once loved porn - and with the same passion he hates it now. And he even didn't mention that you can earn good money from it. Not all the girls make it, that's true - but, not all the girls who go to Hollywood make it either. Edited by - real01 on 8/16/2014 5:03:00 AM
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 7:28AM
Oh and the old porn vs erotica. It's as if the 80s never happened.
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 8:51PM
I do not know what this is all about, I only know that porn is some new religion to me and by far others & that Jules Jordan can be Jesus if that was the pick of the day, Jake Malone a prophet and the sinners can just walk by, one by one, so tasty, and then we'll take it from there. But put Quasar in some leading role, at least a priest, and don't mess with the other guys such as Danny Case & the guy that does it all, Young & Glamorous and such fine things: Chris Streams. That is somehow God on a good day.
Don't get me wrong, there's no way I'm ever giving up porn but he does have some valid points. I can't remember the last time I used my imagination to jerk off - I don't know that I could any more. Which makes me wonder...given that it's hard-wired into males to masturbate, what, exactly, do the anti-porn guys do or think about in order to become aroused?
Well, it is their choice to do it or not. Some performers earn good money, some less. Like in any other profession. I was working on one job (not connected in any way with porn) - and it was a hard work, long hours and not well payed. And I said to myself: It is almost like I'm doing prostitution for my boss and the company: he uses my body and I earn him good money and he pays me little... There are also pornstars who have sex with their fans - not escorts but scheduled gangbang parties & orgies. How's that for loving your fans? Edited by - real01 on 8/17/2014 5:48:28 AM
^ You missed my point, he is blaming porn because those who couldn't make it end up as escort, this happens at Hollywood too and even in mainstream modeling , but the OP isn't giving a fuck to that. If it's really their souls he's caring about why he's attacking only porn? Also if he really could stop porn completely what he thinks the stars would do?
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Posted - Aug 18 2014 : 6:41AM
Those were shitty times... I do not want to go back to the early/mid90s. All you'd got was MTV and rap-videos with fat ugly guys driving cars messing shit in situations jammed up with hot babes pretty much out of reach and then you had Madonna and Mariah Carey to jerk off too. Sure that was hard times. I'm surprised I could ever get it up.
Madonna?!? Yeeucchh. (Even in her heyday). Mariah is definitely still worth one, though. To get back on topic, I've decided this guy is fooling no one. Come on, dude, admit it - you've still got Max Hardcore's entire back catalogue on your hard drive, haven't you?
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Posted - Aug 19 2014 : 5:39AM
What points do you find valid? The best porn can expand your imaination, of course most of it is imaginatively barren but it's always easy to make an argument by picking the worst instead of the best example of anything, whether it's a kind of music, film or literary genre. And trust me, you could jerk off with just your imagination. Just take a break from video porn and it's no problem. Like riding a bike.
This reminds me of Ted Bundy just before he got fried. He tried to blame his murder spree on watching "violent" hardcore porn. There were no hardcore porn shops anywhere in the u.s back in the fifties. He was a lying douche bag! Religious conservatives ate it up. So have some feminists. Sexual violence is not the end result of softcore porn. Porn is not the same thing as heroin where you need stronger and stronger doses. If this guy was into sexual violence he was born that way.
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Posted - Aug 19 2014 : 9:48AM
No noo, that Madonna thing was in fact a line in a radiohit in 1995: From Todd Snider's debut album Songs From The Daily Planet. There you had this Allright Guy song. Really nails it still if you give it a listen. ("I've been through book with pictures of Madonna naked") So blame him, the countryrocker, and that smashing tune... Mariah Carey in 1992 though... Just like Whitney Houston some years before. Sure blame Bobby Brown, too if ya want. Maybe even Tony Mottola.
Yeah, if I was marooned on a desert island or something - then I guess I'd have no choice. I suppose what I really mean when I say "I don't know that I could any more" is "I don't want to."
I think something or someone got in his ear and shamed him into giving up porn. He found God or he got a woman who found out he was into porn and she nagged the shit out of him until he gave it up. If the latter? Poor bastard. Hell if the former too.
I agree - it would be better to watch 15 minutes of good porn than this video. But, the guy was so inaccurate and funny in his statements I had to write a comment on it.