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| skronker Notable Legendary Icon  Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 |  Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:27AMAnybody out there into '70s classic porn? Recently met the man who called himself Henry Paris for a fascinating private Q&A with a small collection of NYC fans, and it rekindled my interest in the Golden Age. Do ADT'ers feel these films still hold their merit? Fuck, man ... but Annette Haven HAS to be the greatest porn actress of ALL time.
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| MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:29AM Mike L. [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:50AM I think those films are the shit! And those soundtracks ... who has soundtracks anymore? (Leslie and that's it). Fucking Jamie Gillis and Serena and Annette Haven and Silvera and Leslie and Seka and so on ... That was real porn. It seems so vintage and tame now, don;t it? But so fucking cool. [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:52AM [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:52AM [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:57AM Rocco and Stagliano have soundtracks for both their recent EA biggies. But those (mostly appropriated I'd argue) soundtracks for the great 70s flix have a distinctive funk that's so dated, so part of a cheesy era, that you can't help but love them now. [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 8:46AM You know that when you have a classic on your hands you’re going to see things you don’t see in today’s porn. Easy is all about what you won’t see in the modern age of porn: a student who grabs his teacher after class and makes her lick his cum covered dick; a 17 yr old boy who breaks into teacher’s house and turns her on at knifepoint; a woman tongue fucking a guy’s ass; a catfight which results in one woman raping/seducing the other; full-body camera shots, kissing, foreplay, lots of bush, and tube socks. Exited yet? Well, you should be ‘cause Easy is one of the most arousing flicks on DVD. Granted I hadn't seen that many porn movies when writing that (and still haven't seen enough to make any grand generalizations.) [Link] |
| Pontus Maximus Senior Member Man of Steel, meet your match. 1346 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 10:08AM I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE those classic porn movies from the 1970's! Those are the movies that were the rage when I was a young man in my early twenties. It's so great that you created this thread, skronker! Here's the thrust (pun intended) of the Golden Age of Porn: the best of the best of movies from that era were like mainstream Hollywood movies that happened to feature hardcore sex. I would say that the absolute best porn movie that I have ever seen, pound for pound, was the original The Devil in Miss Jones. Miss Jones (played by Georgina Spelvin) is a spinster leading a pure, but lonely, unfulfilled life who decides to commit suicide. Once dead, she encounters a figure named Mr. Abaca (played by John Clemens in a non-sex role), who informs Miss Jones to her shock that she is not good enough to gain entrance into Heaven because she committed suicide. Yet, because Miss Jones led such a pure life, it seems unfair to have to send her to Hell. Miss Jones strikes a bargain with Mr. Abaca that will allow her to return to earth for a brief time and live a life completely consumed by lust (reason being, she died a frustrated virgin). Then, when she finally has to go to Hell, it will be for a real reason. Harry Reems played the teacher assigned to instruct Miss Jones in all of the sexual arts. The Devil in Miss Jones is a very serious and dark character study that is riveting from start to finish (I think that Flash did a review of it--it's available on DVD). The acting is so real, that you feel like you're watching something that's actually happening in real life. The sex was incredibly hot and risque for that time period. And the soundtrack is the greatest that I've ever heard (both mainstream and porn). It has kind of like a VERY accessible and beautiful classical sound, and was a complete departure from that cheesy, 1970s disco sound (which, as you've pointed out, skronker, does have its charm). In fact the DIMJ soundtrack is so great, that it has been available on CD for years now, and I listen to it all of the time. Another movie from that time period that is an absolute classic and personal favorite is The Opening of Misty Beethoven. There are many people even today who consider this the single all-time greatest porn movie ever made. The Opening of Misty Beethoven, also currently available on DVD, is actually an erotic version of the classic mainstream film, My Fair Lady. A rich writer (played by Jamie Gillis in a career-best performance) takes a Paris street hooker (Constance Money) and turns her into an internationally known jet-setter and the new Golden Rod Girl. But because he had been so focused on transforming her, he didn't realize until it was almost too late that he had fallen in love with her. The movie was lavishly produced, wonderfully scored, superbly edited, and the acting was top-of-the-line by porn standards. The sex throughout was hot for the time, but rather tame by today's standards. The script was also very funny and witty. What a delightful movie! There are many, many other adult films that I've thoroughly enjoyed from the 1970's, but won't go into here. The two above are the best, IMO. The below films from the 1970's, in random order, must at least be mentioned: Deep Throat (probably seen by more people, including non-porn fans, than any other adult film in history) There were many, many excellent films produced in porn's Golden Age. Pontus
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| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 10:55AM You're totally right. There was all sorts of crazy stuff going on in those flicks (and, really, I haven't seen enough of them, either). Maybe what I meant by "tame" was really "artful" or (if you get the way I mean it) "innocent," ... Porn wasn't the same industry it is now, so there was a freshness to these flicks. Unjaded? Loved your review of "Easy." Gotta check that one out. --Skronker. [Link] |
| lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 11:13AM It doesn't look like today's magazine-spread come to life. Georgina Spelvin is not a raving beauty; it is like watching the lady next door getting some. There'a a more realistic, gritty voyeur feel, especially in some of the darker movies like 3am, Amanda By Night, and Vista Valley PTA (which has father-daughter incest). Okay, now I have to pull out my copy of Easy and watch it tonight. [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 12:32PM [Link] |
| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 5:46PM Edited by - Walter Burns on 3/9/2003 4:39:09 PM [Link] |
| M.B. Senior Member 1679 Posts 2/01 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 5:58PM I really liked the Marilyn Chambers movies: Up & Coming, Insatiable #1, #2, Marilyn Chambers Private Fantasies #2-#6 ( I didn't like #1 becasue it had 3 scenes that Marilyn didn't appear in and they were lifted from a different movie alltogether). The Johnny Wadd stuff is great too but I heard that Arrow was going to release them all on dvd and that worries me. They were the ones that butchered the Taxi Girls dvd weren't they? but on the othder hand they slipped the fisting into the Candy Stripes dvd as an easter egg, so I really don't know what to expect when John Holmes starts slapping a girl around in those flicks, will Arrow edit that stuff out or leave it in? I'm hoping they leave it in, but you never know. [Link] |
Flash  Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 8:03PM Pontius is correct, I have done a review of The Devil in Miss Jones, which happens to be one of the best VCX discs yet produced, along with many others from the golden age. Other reviews of films mentioned in this thread that I have done are Debbie Does Dallas (my first review here actually), Behind the Green Door, Desires Within Young Girls and Candy Stripers. In the future I also have reviews of the classics, The Senator's Daughter, Vista Valley P.T.A., Resurrection of Eve, Hot Rackets and Loose Times at Ridley High coming. Along with what ever other discs I pick up. [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 8:35AM [Link] |
| lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 10:43AM Jessie St. James (pretty buff, with a Faye Dunaway look to her face), natural tits throughout, unzipping soft dicks and making them hard (never see that now!), and one really fun cumshot. Mostly it's the realism that gets you - the people aren't sanitized of all personality, they have actual motivations for what they are doing (many of them dark and low), the people deal with ambivalence and unpredictability. Today's features (the last two that I watched were Search for the Snow Leopard and Dinner Party) have utterly interchangeable characters - any of the women could be played by any of the other women. In the oldies, they let the giggly actresses giggle, and the reserved ones be reserved, etc. We can hardly watch the new ones, and find them unmemorable. My other tip is - watch it after Vista Valley PTA; see poor Jessie St. James running from town to town trying to keep a teaching job while the men come out of the woodwork for her at school and in sleazy bars. It will tickle you! (Oh, I forgot, nobody around here likes to be tickled!) [Link] |
| Pontus Maximus Senior Member Man of Steel, meet your match. 1346 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 1:01PM Lindi, funny that you should also happen to mention Faye Dunaway. She's my all-time favorite Hollywood actress. Pontus [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 1:51PM Another facet I loved about the period is that every flick came with endless "cumming attracttions." This was when you actual went to an adult movie house (in a skeezy part of town) and risked what terrors you could not begin to imagine (and only vaguely perceived in the gloomy, dank confines of the falling-apart old moviehouse) and saw a movie! Of course, this was already the '80s for me, but stuff seemed to float in repertoire, and when videos were available, they still had previews packed on ... Brilliant, hilarious trailers: with humor and drama and weird dada elements. I think you can get whole compilations from somewhere --- Caballero, etc. Anyway ... cool, fun stuff. [Link] |
| lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 2:27PM Can this thread be moved to The Feature Side? [Link] |
| MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 2:35PM Mike L. Edited by - MLyons on 11/26/2003 2:34:51 PM [Link] |
| lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 2:48PM Thanks! [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 5:34PM [Link] |
| lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 7:50PM [Link] |
| lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 7:54PM [Link] |
| Lazerus Member 187 Posts 9/03 | Posted - Nov 27 2003 : 1:49AM Just a thought. [Link] |
| blake_fan Member Under the spell of my muse. 175 Posts 1/01 | Posted - Nov 27 2003 : 12:00PM Nonetheless, Radley Metzger (aka. Henry Paris) was a great filmmaker, and that is all that matters to me. _______________________________ "The greatest argument for the existence of God, "The great ambition of women is to inspire love." -- Moliere (1622-1673) [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 27 2003 : 12:19PM [Link] |
| blake_fan Member Under the spell of my muse. 175 Posts 1/01 | Posted - Nov 29 2003 : 12:41PM A modern day example is Belladonna. I don't think they can make someone else as hot as her. But beautiful, she is not. _______________________________ "The greatest argument for the existence of God, "The great ambition of women is to inspire love." -- Moliere (1622-1673) [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 29 2003 : 1:24PM Annette Haven may be the most beautiful and desirable woman to ever grace a porn set. But she always projects a cool sensibility, CJ Laing is just freakin' hot (and together: damn!). [Link] |
| greybeard Member 181 Posts 8/00 | Posted - Nov 29 2003 : 6:16PM I agree that he had something of a fondness for fellatio (I think, though, that Gerard Damiano was even more hung-up on it, not just because of "Deep Throat" -- way more blowjob screen time in his stuff than in Metzger's!), but it may very well be that it was because the camera could dwell in closeup on those beautiful women's faces while they were doing it! Since this is a Paris/Metzger thread, I figured that I'd call attention to a number of contributions I've made to ADT over the years about the DVDs that have been produced of his hardcore material. These aren't reviews, per se, but are more examinations of how the DVDs compare with earlier VHS and/or original theatrical versions of the films. There have been a number of cuts and deletions made about which the newer viewer should be made aware. The posts are longish, but the level of detail is significant. Here they are: The Private Afternoons of Pamela Mann The Opening of Misty Beethoven And, just posted in this forum – Maraschino Cherry [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Nov 29 2003 : 7:14PM [Link] |
| Lazerus Member 187 Posts 9/03 | Posted - Nov 30 2003 : 5:11AM VCA has also, I might add, buried in their vaults many of the best adult features ever made, classics by DeRenzy, Ziehm, Dancer, etc. As long as they hold the rights to these films, it is unlikely any of them will see the light of day, given their current policy of self-censorship. A very sad situation. [Link] |
| sdc Member 236 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Nov 30 2003 : 8:41AM The current DVD releases of Metzger's movies, both hard and soft, really do leave a lot to be desired. It's a terrible shame that, despite all his major works being available now, only The Image (The Punishment of Anne) is available in a pristine edition. I actually have pretty high hopes that, given the increasing recognition afforded his work, we will see more respectful presentations in the future. Aside from the regrettable practice of 'self censorship', it's very important to see Metzger's films in their original aspect ratios. Finally, and I appreciate that this may not be the place, I would recommend that everyone seeks out Metzger's most important softcore movies, Camille 2000 and The Lickerish Quartet . Camille is a sumptuous erotic melodrama with an outstanding score and The Lickerish Quartet is, in my opinion, his greatest achievement. SDC "If we couldn't have sex from time to time, what would life be? A futile struggle against joints that stiffen and caries that form." Michel Houllebecq [Link] |
| greybeard Member 181 Posts 8/00 | Posted - Dec 1 2003 : 10:50AM [Link] |
| liam Member 116 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Dec 3 2003 : 6:11PM Edited by - liam on 12/3/2003 6:31:33 PM Edited by - liam on 12/3/2003 6:39:17 PM [Link] |
| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | Posted - Dec 3 2003 : 6:38PM It's not up to the moderators whether they should be included as Reviews, but up to the writer. I think they would go quite well, but the writer has to submit them in the review section. [Link] |
| zz kenny Member USA 244 Posts 12/03 | Posted - Dec 11 2003 : 4:35PM [Link] |
| greybeard Member 181 Posts 8/00 | Posted - Dec 18 2003 : 5:46PM It took awhile, but your requests have been answered. Substantially the same posts I bumped earlier in this thread are now also listed as Reviews in the Review Section. I also included another, similar, earlier post about the original Candy Stripers DVD, which at least had what otherwise would have been censored/unavailable stuff as Easter Eggs on the disc! Thanks to DenverDon and Steph for their assistance! [Link] |
| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | Posted - Dec 18 2003 : 5:49PM I've already read them. good job, and i think theyre better there. also steph can put in some links for automatic price comparison for them when they are reviews. congratulations. denverdon < good job, and i think theyre better there. also steph can put in some links for automatic price comparison for them when they are reviews. congratulations. denverdon << good job, and i think theyre better there. also steph can put in some links for automatic price comparison for them when they are reviews. congratulations. denverdon < good job, and i think they're better there. also steph can put in some links for automatic price comparison for them when they are reviews. congratulations. denverdon [[[[[[ [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Dec 19 2003 : 8:41AM [Link] |
| sdc Member 236 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Dec 19 2003 : 5:11PM
"If we couldn't have sex from time to time, what would life be? A futile struggle against joints that stiffen and caries that form." Michel Houllebecq [Link] |
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