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sdc
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236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 6:55AM
I watched this one for the first time last night and it didn't quite live up to expectations. It was certainly as depressing as reports have indicated but I also though it was quite primitive; I think this has been cropped from it's original aspect ratio which certainly wouldn't have helped matters.

I don't think Mahler was aiming for eroticism on any level because, in addition to the despairing tone of the film as a whole, the sex scenes are littered with the kind of extreme medical close-ups normally associated with inserts.

Finally, the current release appears to be cut. During a three-way with Vanessa Del Rio and the publisher/pimp, Samantha Fox takes a break from the action and dons a fearsome looking strap-on . . . cut. According to the IAFD this movie runs 88 minutes but the TVX release runs about 67; TVX, can you tell me exactly what's missing? I wonder if, in addition to the scene I've mentioned, scenes of intravenous drug use might have been eliminated; the end of the movie doesn't flow very well and, when Samantha dreams (?)of Ron Hudd and another woman, I got the impression we were meant to recognise them.


Edited by - sdc on Dec 31 2005

saratoga120
Senior Member

1404 Posts
5/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 7:57AM
I have the same cut you do, but I believe the missing footage does involve Samantha shooting up. She also gets back at Mr. Suave by wielding a black dildo with inexorable progress up his butthole. Presumably this was not in your cut either.

Personally I found the primitiveness affecting. The seedy cinematography only serves to underscore the sordidness and depravity of Samantha's character. Her coffined body seems oddly warmer than her animated one. There might be a point in that.


Edited by - saratoga120 on 12/31/2005 8:00:25 AM

sdc
Member

236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 9:37AM
Thanks, Saratoga. You're right, Samantha did have a warmer complexion in the coffin than elsewhere.

There was no sodomy in the print that I watched, although it was pretty obvious (from a narrative point of you) where that dildo was going to end up. I've also noticed that the IAFD lists a lesbian scene featuring Barbara Daniels (whoever she might be). I realise this isn't a perfect resource but there was no such scene in the version I saw.

saratoga120
Senior Member

1404 Posts
5/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 9:59AM
Barbara Daniels was not on the scene very long. I do have a rather torrid scene of her being sexually ravaged, though I don't recall the movie.

Hey, by the way -- that's Samantha in the black bikini!

TVXCreative
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Katy, TX
50 Posts
12/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 10:10AM
Happy New Year Everyone - The edited version of "Her Name Was Lisa" does indeed involve Samantha Fox's drug use, and her shooting up scenes definitely. We re-released this Richard Mahler this past September, and as many have mentioned - this is a very dark and odd film. The original screenplay by Roger Michael Watkins called for much darker content which was able to be viewed when this film was made.

Nowadays, it's a very different game..

 
joplinfantasy
Member

92 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 10:22AM
Richard Mahler, aka Roger Watkins, hated working in the adult film industry. So it's no wonder that not too many of his films are that erotic. THE PINK LADIES has some good scenes, though.

It's too bad that a strap-on scene had to be deleted, as I didn't think it would run into problems. I can see drug use being an issue, but VCA included a strap-on scene complete and uncut in their OPENING OF MISTY BEETHOVEN disc.

saratoga120
Senior Member

1404 Posts
5/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 10:32AM
Would you mind elaborating? This movie was very influential to me as it stayed in my head long enough to spur me into a relationship with Samantha many years after it came out.

Do you recall what was left on the cutting room floor?

Yankey Doodel
Member

283 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 10:46AM
TVXCreative said:
Do you or anyone else know if that's the same Roger Watkins that made Last House On Dead End Street? It's a pretty dark movie too, and was even altered (severely) for it's original release in the late seventies.
sdc
Member

236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 10:48AM
It is the same Roger Watkins.
Yankey Doodel
Member

283 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 10:52AM
Ah yeah, I just checked the imdb. I might check this one out sometime even though it's cut. Apparanlty he also wrote Neon Nights, which is coming out soon. Cool.
joplinfantasy
Member

92 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 5:16PM
I brought up Roger Watkins to Cecil Howard during the commentary for NEON NIGHTS, and he said Watkins had nothing to do with the script. It didn't remain on the finished disc, but I recall he was kind of taken aback that Watkins' name was somehow attached to the film.
TVXCreative
Member

Katy, TX
50 Posts
12/05
Posted - Jan 1 2006 : 2:58PM
After speaking to the editor at great lengths, he did in fact confirm that a great deal of the edited footage (not on the cutting room floor, but preserved in tact in a seperate master) was primarily Samantha's drug secquence. Darker only as it shows this footage from start to finish, which was, of course nothing foreign to Ms Fox at that time of her life.
joplinfantasy
Member

92 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jan 2 2006 : 12:23PM
Samantha Fox was definitely a troubled woman. Thankfully those times are past her now, as she's living alive and well in New York City.

TVX, what you might consider doing with future discs and scenes that must be edited is to include them as easter eggs like I-Candy did with CANDY STRIPERS (the fisting scenes in that film were hidden on the disc for completists). That way, people won't need to try to find TWO versions of a given film, to have on DVD and to have an uncut version. This way, it sort of delivers both worlds. Now, I have to go on a hunt for an uncut tape of HER NAME WAS LISA to accompany my DVD.

TVXCreative
Member

Katy, TX
50 Posts
12/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 12:40PM
Thanks for the insight. We are fully aware about Easter Eggs, and realize that many, many of our distributors in varying jurisdictions have such a diverse geographical allowance to ship the material - without getting busted. All the films we release are kept intact also in our vaults.
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 2:14PM
That's great to hear. At least the edited portions of these classics aren't getting lost over time.



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