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Blueboy
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10/05
Posted - Apr 12 2006 : 11:19PM
I just finished posting my contribution to the "Who's Next for Jules Jordan's Darkside" thread, which has attracted a lot of suggestions from ADT members.

The "Darkside" concept involves a girl who hasn't done some of the wilder stuff (or at least, not for quite a while) to "switch to the dark side" and do a Jules Jordan-style mini-gangbang, feeding frenzy, interracial, DP and other scene. Gina Lynn starred in the first edition, and Jenna Haze in the second.

Both vids are GREAT. Jules puts each girl through her paces, as they appear in all five scenes. They both go places they've never been before. Amazing!

I like both of these girls- very much. But what I REALLY like about these two vids is that the featured star is in all the scenes!

Which raises the real question: why aren't there more series which focus on a single girl? The responses to the thread quoted above demonstrate that plenty of ADT members want vids with their favorite girl starring in every scene.

The variety of product out there in the market is truly incredible. But this is a niche that seems to be utterly forgotten, unless I'm mistaken, or my favorite store simply doesn't stock these lines.

I'm not talking about comps focussing on a single girl-- that's old stuff, and "true fans" will likely have seen those scenes. And I'm not talking about the interactive "Playing with . . ." type of vids-- although the success of those series tends to prove my case, that there is a strong market for videos about a single girl.

If you agree with me about this, and would like to see videos about your particular favs, mark your vote here.

Edited by - blueboy on Apr 12 2006

Edited by - blueboy on Apr 12 2006

KingClutch
Member

165 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 12:03AM
It might be that it's just too damn costly. I think the formula of feeding the consumer demand for fresh young girls who maybe are willing to work for less money just to break into the business is the proven business model.


A former contract girl who has mostly been doing girl/girl for the last year must cost a fortune to commit to the kind of mini-bukkake, interracial anal gangbang we all so desperately want to see.

Hardware All-Star Supporter
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14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 12:10AM
And the answer is that their favorite girl is most likely a different one in every case. If you put 5 favorites in one movie you've increased the odds of making your money back by a factor of ... wait for it ... five!

It has to be somebody pretty damned popular to get a whole movie and earn a return on your investment.

snowman872
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400 Posts
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Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 12:12AM

I think it would cost the same or less. But, from the producer standpoint, it is perhaps more risky. It's putting all your eggs in one basket. If the girl proves unpopular, you might have trouble moving the product.

-- Snowman

Blueboy
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10 Posts
10/05
Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 12:37AM
Hardware: Good point, and I have thought about that, too.

When I'm selecting a title, I look for which girls are in the movie. If there's one I like, I might rent it; if there's two, it's probably a rental, and if there are three or more, it's a sure thing rental. The more likely the rental, the more likely the purchase. [Good ADT reviews also help me pick-- THANKS to all reviewers.]

A single movie, Darkside style, about one of "my" girls is a guaranteed buy, sight unseen.

I don't agree that a movie with five different girls is five times more likely to be a rental/purchase. There are certain performers that I want to see, and I really can't see too much of their work: Sabrine Maui, Luci Thai, Lucy Lee (the Czech one), etc.

I appreciate that this concept only works for the really popular stars. But we know who they are: check out the "Playing with" series, or others that focus on one girl.

As for return on investment, ask Jules Jordan if "Gina Lynn's Darkside" make any dough. And wait to see what happens to Jenna Haze's Darkside once distribution gets it out more widely.

I also understand that picking up a vid with five girls may introduce me to a new one that I might like.

But I put it to ADT members: would YOU buy a movie with only one girl featured in each scene? And if so, who would it need to be?

 
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 12:55AM
While I concede that having the same favored starlet in all the scenes increases the chance that I'll like the video it is by no means a slam-dunk. I can easily imagine NOT buying a DVD devoted to my favorite star. Of course I would be furious at the wasted opportunity, but throwing good money at back product isn't going to assuage my displeasure.
VincentVanGauge
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Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 6:39AM
picman
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2884 Posts
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Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 6:56AM
It takes someone really special to make an undertaking like this worthwhile and there just aren't that many performers who warrant it. There have been some notable releases in the last year focused on one girl. Tiffany Mynx, Naomi and Hillary Scott have all been focused on in high profile videos, and I'm sure we'll see more.
BigBobxxx
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2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 9:13AM
Is there room for a middle-ground here?

I'd be happy if the "star" got two scenes (out of the standard 5-6 scene DVD).

The problem with one girl in every scene, in addition to some of the points made here, also involves quality and scene types. Too often, in order to pad-out a single DVD to feature one girl, lez scenes, more niche-like stuff and multi-partner material is included which really doesn't interest me. If we want the focus to be on the "girl," the star, this is where they lose me.

Also, very rarely are such immersive experiences shot and produced with the quality that Jules Jordan brings to the table.

I'd love to see a single-girl DVD with the following mix of scenes:
(1) B/G - full-sex
(2) B/G - BJ only
(3) B/G/G - with true cum-swapping (no spitting please)
(4) B/B/G - give the DP and multi-cumshot guys their due
(5) B/G - second full-sex scene
(6) Girl's Choice - let her name the type of scene she wants to do (maybe during an interview segment?), then cut to the action. Absolutely anything the girl honestly chooses.

Respectfully, I suggest that lez scenes and more than four partner scenes (any variation of B and G with more than four performers) are really more specialized product and, more properly, belong on DVDs that cater to those audiences (who, IMHO, are far more interested in the type of sex as opposed to any single girl doing an entire DVD with one scene tossed their way).

JEWEL (imposter)
Jewel De'Nyle

736 Posts
1/06
Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 12:06PM
I'd like to see a Tory Lane's Darkside. I love when the movie is based around one girl as long as she can pull it off.
snowman872
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Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 3:59PM

It's very common in Japanese porn to feature just one girl in multiple scenes -- this applies to both newbies and established talent.
Ordell
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1042 Posts
6/05
Posted - Apr 13 2006 : 5:18PM
Multiple? They are the whole movie. Almost all of their movies feature a single girl in every scene, although there is a growing number that feature more than one girl. I WISH we would do that in the U.S.
babby
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1283 Posts
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Posted - Apr 14 2006 : 11:06PM
I would like to see a jewel denyle darkside. i would break records.
bauer024
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It is what it is
1345 Posts
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Posted - Apr 14 2006 : 11:24PM
darn you pxp you beat me to it i feel tory lane could pull it offf great she is moving up my list of girls fast she has a energy about her on and off the camera

dan


i feel belladonna has been close in alot of her stuff to being like 4 of the 5 scenes


plus i will say i bought darkside jenna on pre order neveer have done that befor...


for me it's alot like buyingf a CD if i trust the mucsian to put out a qualty CD i will buy it if i know only one or 2 songs are good i will download it or get it some other way .i want to buy what i know is quanity and quality...

dk

The Dude
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2/06
Posted - Apr 15 2006 : 3:22AM
Its has been discussed lately about buying scene ``a la carte`` to get only our favorite star wich prove that a one-star dvd would do it.

Personally to be honest i rarely buy porn...why? cause i don`t want to spend 25$ + shipping on one scene as i can`t care less most of the time about other girl. Im VERY selective over porn, having watching it for a bunch of years now.

But a movie focuss on a star need to be more than just B/G in every scene...for exemple i don`t see a krystal steal movie, as much as i found her atractive she do not much...

Girl need to do gonzo and so varie the scenes.

Personally i buy mostly only compilation, there cheap and have a bunch of scene of my favorite star of the moment and usually are 4 hour...

I NEVER buy new movie at 30$ , too expensive especially if there one girl only who interest you.

But give me a krystal steal darkness(assuming she could go gonzo) then i will pay the 30 bucks...

As for lesbian, i agree that it should be reserved to lesbo movie, just like male gay is a category out of normal porn. I have nothing against the where the boys arent or decadent diva, as long as its clear its a lesbo flick. But whats most disapointing than seeing that the star why you rented the movie only do a G/G...arg !!! lol

Lesbo do nothing for me, sure i like 2 girl doing a dual blowjob or ass to other mouth, such things, but 2 girl just using toys bore me, there not that sentiment of porn, even i could lick a dildo...there nothing sexual about that, but licking a cock its different. Plus there this sentiment that the guy can come at any moment, the guy hold there head etc, well thats a so different things. g/g just dosen`t do it for me so yeah PLEASE put it apart normal porn or at least specificaly write on the box that this star is only involve in G/G

 
croy
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Posted - Apr 15 2006 : 5:48AM
Many fans aren't fixated on a specific porn star. Certainly you would lose some of the stag party buys from this. Many want variety, especially if they are hiding their collection from wife/gf.

Then, as probably mentioned, you entirely miss those who aren't such huge fans of a specific porn star that they want every scene with her in it. Much of the time, fans will rent/buy movies with only the one hot scene with their favorite star. So certainly no monetary incentive.

Jules Jordan was smart. Many have said that Jenna Haze was their favorite - when she was doing gonzo. Well this is her first movie back from JKP (or close to it). So there is that pent up demand.




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