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Xhakorudan Member 577 Posts 3/15	Posted - Mar 9 2017 : 4:36PM Aya wrote: ^^Because many in the industry use the stigma against it in mainstream society to their advantage. If it was more accepted and treated like a legit, professional, and well-regulated business, a lot of this stuff wouldn't fly. Just look at how many girls enter the business having no clue of what to expect. Click to expand Explain? [Link]
Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14	Posted - Mar 9 2017 : 7:26PM ^Well, normally you would be able to have some sort of organization or agency to file a complaint who who could take action, but that doesn't exist in porn. In a more transparent industry, girls would be aware of Manwin's reputation and be advised to avoid them. But girls come and go in this industry on a whim. There is no formal process, no test to take, no license to earn. People leave this industry and try to forget and ignore everything, and that's why it continues to happen. I mean this is a business that some banks refuse to accept money from. It's no wonder that there is so little support available. [Link]
moebius22 Senior Member 1528 Posts 12/09	Posted - Mar 9 2017 : 7:35PM The entertainment business in general is pretty bad. [Link]
boi150 Member 7 Posts 6/16	Posted - Mar 9 2017 : 11:53PM tripper wrote: Good luck to her. Too bad she never did anal, she has such a sweet ass, and did a lot of kink stuff. I guess it's time to move on. Click to expand If you didnt know Aria Alexander did an anal scene in her debut scene with Amateur Associates as Sasha Nexx? [Link]

Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 1:33AM This doesn't surprise me and yet it's still a bummer. I'm honestly surprised that Spiegler let her do the competition in the first place. Between this, the Carter debacle with Wicked, and the general fan apathy when a girl goes into a contract, I have to wonder if it's worth whatever commission to keep models locked in with one studio versus letting them shoot freely. [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 1:48AM ^ Nowadays, it seems like it's generally not worth it for the studio (which is why you saw DP change the contest to a bunch of guaranteed scenes instead of an exclusive contract) and it's only worth it to the performer if they have a side job/something else they're doing when they aren't shooting porn. If Carter hadn't gotten shafted by Axel, having more time to work on her music/DJ stuff would have been worth it. Asa Akira seems pretty happy under contract, and she's generally writing and I think feature dancing nowadays. As to Aria, it sucks to hear her calling it quits, but it's not like it's not an unknown thing that DP can treat performers pretty shitty. Ask any one of their former contract stars, whom I don't think I've heard one say a good thing about them. Ask Brett Rossi how she felt about getting shafted after her first b/g scene. [Link]
JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 7:54AM Xhakorudan wrote: Why does anything that Manwin touches get destroyed, and if they really are career killers, why are they tolerated by the rest of the industry? Click to expand $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [Link]
Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 1:01PM ^^ While I agree that at a certain point in a career a contract could be beneficial to the performer, it still leaves me wondering why he'd let someone so young in their career enter a contest where they'd be locked up in a contract that would severely limit their fanbase. I don't have the finances so I can't say for sure, but I feel like both Spiegler and Aria would have benefited greater in terms of building her brand at as many studios as possible versus doing the contract star contest with all of the bad will DP/Mindgeek has built in the industry and with the public over the years. In the end, it's Mindgeek's fault for treating her this way but I think there's also a responsibility that he missed here as her agent in advising her and/or flat out refusing to let her enter to begin with. When you consider that he doesn't let performers do certain acts on camera or work with TS women, it's even more baffling imo. [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 2:11PM ^ People tend to seriously overestimate the effect that going under contract has on people's careers (in terms of popularity). As a simple example, while this didn't work out well for Aria, it seems to have worked out just fine for Eva Lovia. Edit: And the TS women thing and the "certain acts" thing (i.e. anal creampies) can both be seen as health issues. TS performers because of the less strict testing regimen, and anal creampies are literally the most dangerous act in porn. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 3/10/2017 2:14:18 PM [Link]
zaxmate Senior Member 8384 Posts 5/15	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 2:20PM ^^ Was she ever that popular? I don't really remember her as a rising star blowing up with bookings - if she was struggling with getting enough work DP contract was a possible way to get some guaranteed bookings to survive. Spiegler might have advised her to stay away from it but an agent isn't supposed to be a boss who has the final word what they can or can't do - they should be working for the models, not vice versa since models are clients, not employees. Regarding his models not doing certain acts it seems to be more of a mutual agreement - I'm not sure there's enough interest among his models to perform those acts for them to be upset about it. Outside of those restrictions I don't think he bosses his models around and lets them make their own career choices including participating in contests even if he's against it and can only strongly advise against that at most. So I think they discussed that it was a risky move but she decided to take the risk, especially if her career wasn't going anywhere at that time. [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 3:17PM ^ Mark has always gotten a lot more right than he's ever gotten wrong. In fact, if I had to pick one guy to help guide and develop a girl's career, Mark seriously has to be your go-to guy. I'm hoping that Aria will take some time off, and possibly come back on her own terms down-the-road. She's too attractive and too talented to simply walk away from a very nice career. Of course, she may have come to just hate the whole porn thing. In which case, best wishes moving on. [Link]
zaxmate Senior Member 8384 Posts 5/15	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 4:25PM ^ Not sure if you're disagreeing with my post in your first 2 sentences but I haven't really said anything negative about Mark in it - in the 2 paragraph I was talking about how agent shouldn't act like a boss in general and I don't think Mark does that. Chances of her coming back seem really low based on tweets from the previous page @ariaalexanderxo<brWorking with digital left me exhausted and jaded, and unfortunately once I was free again I wasn't having fun anymore @ariaalexanderxo<brI think this was a golden year for new beginnings regardless. Porn was never a legit career to me @ariaalexanderxo<brI didn't have a bad experience, I just know there are better experiences elsewhere [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 5:03PM ^Since none of those tweets are of the "I hate porn"/"Porn ruined my life" variety, the chances of her coming back after awhile don't seem all that low to me. [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Mar 10 2017 : 8:55PM zaxmate wrote: ^ Not sure if you're disagreeing with my post in your first 2 sentences but I haven't really said anything negative about Mark in it - in the 2 paragraph I was talking about how agent shouldn't act like a boss in general and I don't think Mark does that. (snip) Click to expand Not at all. I was just further elaborating on your thoughts. Seems we both have great respect for Mark :) [Link]

Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14	Posted - Mar 11 2017 : 2:48PM She did reply "Never" to coming back in one of her tweets, but there have been others that have said that who did return. I say if she's still gone a year from now, and not popping up at events or doing cam shows, then maybe she's serious. [Link]
seandps Senior Member The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma 1226 Posts 5/14	Posted - Apr 28 2017 : 10:14AM pics from AVN 2017 pics by me @seandps [Link]
The New Guy Member 311 Posts 4/17	Posted - May 5 2017 : 12:12AM whatsatelephonebill wrote: it seems to have worked out just fine for Eva Lovia. Click to expand Even Eva has said that being under contract was not good. I believe she talked about it on one of Manuel Ferrara's Twitch livestreams fairly recently, so if you're interested in that conversation go on his Twitch and watch the VOD - she also revealed she's working on an anal showcase too. Its quite interesting if you want to know about her career. [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - May 5 2017 : 12:56AM ^ I'll watch it, but what I meant by that is that Eva really isn't any less popular now than she was before she "won the contest". Since I know Mindgeek is a shitty company, I figured her time there wasn't all that great to her, but her popularity never really suffered. [Link]
The New Guy Member 311 Posts 4/17	Posted - May 5 2017 : 2:45AM whatsatelephonebill wrote: what I meant by that is that Eva really isn't any less popular now than she was before she "won the contest". Since I know Mindgeek is a shitty company, I figured her time there wasn't all that great to her, but her popularity never really suffered. Click to expand Yeah, I know what you meant. But that is because Eva had already built her brand a bit before she was contracted to DP - she shot a number of scenes for all the usual big sites and was blowing up at the time and was one of the best newcomers; and she has a unique appearance too being japanese-spanish mixed, and had established a reputation for her iconic big booty. I think Aria could have done with waiting another year, at least, before considering going for a DP contract; and focusing on building up her brand and gaining fans from the audiences of all the major sites. She was gaining popularity at the time but she went into the DP contract contest very early on which shackled her to them and stunted her career in the long term, I feel. But this is just guessing - I don't really know what Aria was dealing with behind the scenes/what the situation was like. [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - May 5 2017 : 3:07AM ^ I get what you're saying, but Aria was available to shoot for other companies for much longer than Eva was before she won (Eva was only shooting boy/girl for about 3 months before that point). Aria had been around for almost a year going by the dates at the start of this thread. Once you've been around for that long, especially if you have a good agent like she did, you have a good grasp of how companies see you and how popular you are in the industry. Edit: The most impressive thing about how Eva handled the start of her career was the fact that all those scenes she shot for major companies were basically shot in a 2-3 month span between her first scene for the DP star contest and the night she won the competition. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 5/5/2017 3:09:48 AM [Link]
The New Guy Member 311 Posts 4/17	Posted - May 5 2017 : 3:55AM whatsatelephonebill wrote: I get what you're saying, but Aria was available to shoot for other companies for much longer than Eva was before she won (Eva was only shooting boy/girl for about 3 months before that point). Aria had been around for almost a year going by the dates at the start of this thread. Once you've been around for that long, especially if you have a good agent like she did, you have a good grasp of how companies see you and how popular you are in the industry. Edit: The most impressive thing about how Eva handled the start of her career was the fact that all those scenes she shot for major companies were basically shot in a 2-3 month span between her first scene for the DP star contest and the night she won the competition. Click to expand Eva had still been shooting GG and BGG scenes for at least a year earlier (maybe almost 2), like that BGG scene she did with Keisha Grey, which built up hype and anticipation for her eventual switch to BG scenes. She also did camming too, I believe. Also, I'm fairly certain that Aria debuted in early 2015 and she went on the DP star contest in late 2015 (Nov 2015 - Jan 2016). However her early scenes were for niche sites under a different name, at first, which went under the radar for a lot of people. She started really blowing up in mid-late 2015, just a few months before she went on the contest, if I recall correctly. Her brand was not as established as Evas was at the time imo. Its a shame Aria has quit, I believe she could have become one of the top performers now that she'd left DP, but alas. Edited by - The New Guy on 5/5/2017 4:07:12 AM Edited by - The New Guy on 5/5/2017 10:59:37 AM [Link]
Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16	Posted - May 5 2017 : 10:11AM ^^ Eva also had 2+ years of doing g/g only to build a fanbase of both g/g fans and b/g fans that wanted to see her do b/g. Aria was just a very promising talent but didn't have the opportunity to build that swell of support before she went into contract. I'm honestly surprised that Spiegler let her do DP star with all of the horror stories of girls in contracts not Asa Akira. [Link]
seandps Senior Member The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma 1226 Posts 5/14	Posted - May 16 2017 : 10:27AM pics from AVN 2017 pics by me @seandps [Link]
Eddie Jay Member 56 Posts 5/17	Posted - May 24 2017 : 9:15PM Edited by - eddie jay on 10/11/2017 7:23:06 PM [Link]

theamof510 Member 243 Posts 4/17	Posted - Aug 31 2017 : 6:03PM So she's completely gone no recently unreleased scenes or anything no onlyfans or shooting for her own site [Link]
orgymaster Member 150 Posts 10/14	Posted - Jan 11 2018 : 2:21PM What a fabulous woman, wish she had a longer career, but I'm still thankful for the bonanza she left us, especially love her IR stuff. Edited by - orgymaster on 1/11/2018 2:22:24 PM [Link]
snatchhunter Member Schoolgirl socks and big butts 303 Posts 5/12	Posted - Feb 28 2020 : 3:44AM No news on a comeback? She's a big loss [Link]
lefaf Deactivated User 5776 Posts 10/14	Posted - Feb 28 2020 : 10:25AM what makes you think she'll come back one day ? [Link]
PornoSmurf Senior Member 1190 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jun 28 2022 : 4:27AM Shoutout to this absolute beauty. Has since left the scene and we wish her well, Aria left behind an amazing library of scenes though and was always magnificent every. single. scene. [Link]