^ i think she also asks for travel costs and such, which again, may price her out. I don't know. Hope it works out because she is dynamite in my view. And I love body art by the way. I don't understand why people close doors over tats . Romi Rain is one of the superstars and she has a ton of ink, Bonnie Rotten, while a short career due to her retirement and prenancy was near the top of the industry for her time. Christy mack was on the rise before the War Machine incident and she is inked all over. I tend to think it may be the rates and finances more so than ink .But only the people ignoring her know for sure. Edited by - A_Fan on 2/7/2018 1:39:19 AM
Adriana Chechik did one anal scene very early for Let's Try Anal (they reportedly paid very well for first-timers back then), but then it was around half a year before she started doing it regularly. By that time she'd filmed dozens of scenes in a variety of genres and was pretty well known to various fanbases already. Conversely, while it was apparently four months into her porn career that Holly started doing anal (so not that much earlier), I really don't recall much of a buzz about her before that or noticing all that many scenes...looking back at her filmography, I think she largely just filmed in Florida on a limited basis at the time. So she's been "the anal girl" pretty much ever since she began filming in Porn Valley, I think. And not living on the West Coast herself, I suspect it's difficult to network with producers to get a shot at filming different stuff now. Edited by - shalalin on 2/7/2018 9:10:41 AM
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I have her on my instagram it looks like she has some shoots going on!
Of course she is asking for travel cost. Who wouldn't if they had to fly to get to their shoot? Now I don't know if this is a bigger deciding factor than her body art but I doubt it since the people who would be willing to book her would quickly know that she requires travel expanses to get to the studio. That's especially true for any European company. I'm glad that you like body art but you have to realise that you are part of the minority. It may be a very vocal one and it may even one that is willing to speak with their wallet but it is still a minority. The majority of people are like me and prefer that their performers have as few tattoos as possible and what is worse for performers with a lot of tattoos or large one is that producers tend to think like I do. Just ask most agents and they will tell you the same thing. That said I can overlook Holly's tattoos and enjoy her performance.
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^I understand your points on body ink, but when I see Bonnie Rotten's career and where Romi Rain is today, I am not sure that is the detriment here. She was hot up until the fall and she had a good 18 month run while she had body ink and her titles on Legal Porno for example sold very well as far as their rankings. If the ink was leading to low sales, her phone would have gone dead long before that. Only the people not calling Holly know why they are not calling, the rest we are just speculating. I smell a rat with the agent though.
Holly now on TLC as an escort. They have her age wrong on the site. http://www.theluxurycompanion.com/view.php?id=678 Another: https://www.sunshineangels.co/holly-hendrix Escort review from January: https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/holly-hendrix-8887409888-339336
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^she is definitely on my "must book list" at some point in the future :)
Adriana Chechik did one anal scene very early for Let's Try Anal (they reportedly paid very well for first-timers back then), but then it was around half a year before she started doing it regularly. By that time she'd filmed dozens of scenes in a variety of genres and was pretty well known to various fanbases already. Conversely, while it was apparently four months into her porn career that Holly started doing anal (so not that much earlier), I really don't recall much of a buzz about her before that or noticing all that many scenes...looking back at her filmography, I think she largely just filmed in Florida on a limited basis at the time.
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Although there are similarities between Adrianna and Holly, there are some differences also. I like them both and think they're both great performers who are great doing the hard stuff I think of them as different types of pornstars. I tend to see and think of Adrianna as being more versatile as a performer because of her look and style. Adrianna is great at the over the top hard stuff but I can also enjoy her doing stuff with more subdued more straight forward and even non-anal stuff. I think she is just as good doing glam porn or Naughty America type porn. Holly, in my mind is a different type of pornstar. Holly obviously excels at the hard rough stuff but I see Holly as more of a "teen" performer. I think Holly can pull off a "bad girl" or "dirty girl" really well but I don't think she works as well in a "glam" setting or more "vanilla" type porn. For some reason I tend to lose interest in her if she isn't doing anal or the harder stuff for some reason. I kinda think it's almost a waste of her talent if she isn't doing the harder edged stuff. That's not a bad thing though. I just think her appeal isn't as wide as someone like Adrianna. I had kinda similar feelings about Sheena Shaw. But I totally don't think she's "washed up" or doesn't deserve to be paid well because she can really bring it and in the right scenes there aren't many girls who can compete with her. I think she'll be fine and continue to be a star in the biz and don't think people will get tired of watching anytime soon. There are a few other types like her doing similar types of porn but I don't think they can pull of Holly's appeal.
On that note she's escorting exclusively out of Miami now which is a fucking dream come true since I'm relocating to Tampa soon.
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Posted - Feb 22 2018 : 11:24PM
^Better watch out or you will become broke being able to have escorting time with her so conveniently... lol I see porn star escorts but it is like twice a year as I don't live anywhere near to where they congregate. Gosh, if I lived in Vegas or LA or FLorida I would end up broke within 2 years I think..lol. I can't imagine having financial discipline after seeing someone like Holly Hendrix once or twice if she lived within driving distance, I would be dialing her up far too often. Edited by - A_Fan on 2/22/2018 11:25:06 PM
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Really? I called this last month. Whenever a girl says she can't find any other work, they always start IR. Just look at her twitter post, she is very desperate for work and is wondering why nobody will hire her. IR was a last resort thing, she has done all the other extreme acts in the world. She really wants to stay in the business. So she had to do it. I expect a boat load of IR from her since she can't find other work. I'm not a fan really, but because she was a longtime holdout IR companies will put her in every scene now.
^4 Holly Hendrix is biracial. This is her first time doing a black guy on screen not her first IR. P.S. She even tweeted last year that she was black and that when she did a black guy on screen it wouldn't be considered IR. However, those tweets have been deleted. I wish I uploaded a screenshot of those tweets versus embedding them.
Good news ! I stopped watching her scenes a few months ago, now I think I'll start watching her again (at least that scene) I hope more will follow. Like a scene with Dredd, like the one with Piper Perri but with anal !
I'm not surprised by it either. I knew it was coming eventually but I agree that her current situation probably made her decide to go for it now. I'm thinking she had always planned to do it but since she was getting plenty of otherwise she just held off until she thought the timing was optimal. I've never thought she was opposed to it since she did do a IR bj for her Darkko showcase. And while some fans hate the idea of it, this is another example of how pacing what a girl does in porn can pay off for them when their career needs a boost. In any case, this is great news for fans of Holly and IR. I suspect we'll see lots of great IR from her in the near future.
^Technically it isn't. but the general fan will think of it as IR because they just look at skin colors and don't think she is black. Right or wrong, most people will call it IR. Hey, its Holly and Mandingo directed by Mason, that is pretty sweet regardless of how it is labelled.
I'll never understand WTF is with you people and IR anyway. If a girl (pornstar or otherwise) doesn't like fucking outside their race SO FUCKING WHAT!??! Endless whining, wishing, bitching and complaining certainly won't help matters. Jeezus...
I'll agree that some people go overboard with the IR thing but at the same time I feel the exact same way with most of the other kinks/fetishes people get all worked up about here like complaining about girls who don't do anal, creampies, gaping, DPs, swallowing, etc., etc...So my thoughts are if we complain about the complaining and bitching about IR it should be about all things across the board.
I tend to be more about the color of the skin on what I consider IR because I don't care enough to do research on whether a person is actually black or white or whatever. If she doesn't want it to be considered IR that's fine but it will be labeled that way and I think it should. Not out of disrespect to her but she looks like and is thought of as a white girl. She's never promoted herself as black and she looks white. In non-porn everyday real life it shouldn't/doesn't matter but in porn unfortunately the girls are put in categories to make it easier for porn fans to find what they want.
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Posted - Feb 26 2018 : 1:06PM
A lot of girls who don't do IR is for business reasons (holding out until their established fan base can't wait for it and they can charge more money). It isn't always some racist thing about "I wont fuck outside y "race"." America still has a lot of slavery roots in culture, the big dicked black man with the non black girl is still a big thing and probably always will be.
Just had to check something on this newfound revelation, Freeones has her listed as Latin. Producers and Agents obviously dont care, she light enough to pass as white so they always shoot her as if she is white
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Posted - Feb 27 2018 : 4:28AM
So if Holly doesn't classify this scene as IR, that means she didn't get an "IR premium" for it, right? She would've just been paid her standard "anal rate."
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^not the best business person perhaps.. lol It still going to be perceived as her first IR, and thus, sell more. So, she should still have asked for a "First IR" rate whatever that may be.
About race in Wikipedia (I know blah blah about this, read "THE RACE QUESTION" from UNESCO if needed, it's a nice read): "Although such groupings lack a firm basis in modern biology". So yes, like one user said before, she is technically correct in saying that this isn't a interracial scene. Of course interracial adopted another meaning in porn, such as "lesbian" and probably many others. Yet is okay if she doesn't like the term given the source. And do not worry about her premiums, if not for a interracial premium, maybe she received a "high skin contrast" premium.
Holly may be a victim of her own willingness to do so much so fast. There aren't many "firsts" that she's holding out. Unfortunately she's a tiny-breasted babe in an industry that still is intoxicated mainly with big-breasted babes, so she's not going to get booked repeatedly for her huge breasts, cause she doesn't have them. The model for Holly might be Jenna Haze and/or Veronica Rodriguez. Jenna increased thirst for her work by a) working for years doing girl/girl only, which Veronica is doing now and b) taking charge of her own career with her directing, etc. Veronica seems to have followed that model as well as being very aggressive in pushing herself on social media. Holly might do herself a favor by doing her own scenes, either directing them herself or teaming with directors that she trusts and then finding a company to market them with, like Evil Angel, with whom she's worked a ton over the past couple of years. Letting the public -and the industry - know how frustrated she is to not be getting booked is probably not the best path to increased success. I hope she figures things out. I'm a big fan of hers.
^^^^^ There's been a noticeable pushback against charging more for interracial from the racist connotation it has, and many girls are no longer charging a different rate for interracial scenes than they would for a standard scene.
That's debatable. Every girl is different and what works for one girl might not work for another when it comes to plotting a career path. I think some girls can come out of the gate doing pretty much everything and still have a "long" and popular career. Sasha Grey did it. I think Holly's biggest problem is that she's seen by many as the hardcore circus act girl. If she is willing to perhaps accept more "lighter" scenes at perhaps slightly lesser pay she could get plenty of work for the more of the studios like 3rd Degree, New Sensations, Naughty America, etc., etc...Plus she with her doing IR now she will expand her audience. I think Holly is a great performer but has a fairly narrow audience. She just needs to move beyond that hardcore niche she's mostly been known for.
Are people that obtuse?! Don't they understand the concept of lighter skinned black people?
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^General people are not reading porn forums or looking up a performer on wikipedia to find out her background. We may think we are awesome at ADT but we are just a sliver of the porn buying audience. To the naked eye, most people would not go "oh, she has an african american parent". Therefore, that general person would consider her scene with mandingo to be IR.
No, I mean looking at her from even a photo or at least watching a video of her. It's clear that she is not lily white. I thought she was at least part black when I first met her, and I didn't know anything about her then. I can't believe that people who are into interracial porn (the porn meaning) would not be able to discern that a person is black or part black.
Not so hard to believe. I'm black and like IR porn it wasn't an obvious thing to me. Sure, I could tell that she wasn't "lily white" but she could've been mixed with another race/nationality. Maybe seeing her in person makes a difference. Now that I know I guess I can kinda see it but just casually watching her without making the effort to guess, not much about her screams "black" or part black in my eyes. But then, that type of thing isn't something I focus on.
^I'm black. I knew from the first scene I watched that she was biracial. The hair (edges) gave her away. In any event, she's a powerful performer whatever her racial makeup is.
^ It's there if you're the type to notice that type of thing but my point was that I don't think it's so hard to believe if not everyone picked up on it. I don't think it's right or wrong either way. For me it's just not something I put much thought into. I've noticed in recent years that most people (girls in particular) like to mention and name all races/nationalites they have in them and I usually just wonder why that's so important to them to name them all.
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The preview looks good. That's no surprise because Holly is usually great. I can't wait to see the whole scene.
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Posted - Mar 15 2018 : 10:36AM
Why do we have to distinguish them and why are we ill informed if we don't? People got eyes, some eyes see different things. I would not have said "oh she has a black parent.... that doesn't mean I am not aroud other type of people... lol SHe is hot, she is an awesome performer, I never cared about that. What I do know, is business wise, a lot of people will see her with Mandingo and say IR.
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In any event, she's a powerful performer whatever her racial makeup is. 