Possibly one of the most extreme examples of a blanket statement that I have ever read. Could you be even slightly more specific? Which junk? What old stuff etc
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 11:44PM
I suppose 1 on 1 stuff hasn't changed a bunch (probably in 20 years) but gangbangs, orgies which use to be 20+ people now consist of like 4 people. terrible to say the least. I know the directors/producers blame tube sites..etc for this but lets face facts, tube sites have brutal quality, if someone makes a great flic people will pay for it...period, but the junk these old great producers are coming up nowdays with how can they expect sales?
Well if your saying porn has gone away from circus or extreme acts, then I think your right. Personally I don't miss any of that stuff. I actually think porn is way better than it was 5 years ago. The producers have finally started to pay attention to more than just a select few, plus some of the weaker performers are being weeded-out IMO due to the slowdown. I don't fast forward nearly as much as I used to. As for gang bangs specifically, I think that's simply more about economics and the economy.
Porn is like any other form of entertainment, there are always great new artists emerging. I know for me recently I have had a real reinterest. There are some stars now who are hotter than many of the stars in the 90's who seem more open minded. Brook Banner was like I couldn't believe how hot her body was, Hot or hotter than any earler actress. bobbi Starr has hollywood looks and I can't believe some of the hot scenes she does with clothing to match. Just saw Andy San Dimas in a few movies , Bree Olson, Jennifer White amazing and they do everything. This was never the case 10 yrs ago when the best wouldn't do anal (Jenna, Janine etc) There are way more beautiful actresses now than I can ever recall. Edited by - jgm4661 on 7/22/2010 12:43:50 AM
Rose colored glasses work wonders, they really do. There is an incredible amount of porn out there and available. Each person has his or her own interest which makes 90% of porn pointless to each person. Pretty much, just like anything else... music, literature, film, and any other entertainment. What do you like? I'm sure you can find it somewhere.
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huskerhat25 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 1:55AM
If you are talking about porn on DVD I have to agree somewhat. This is part of the reason I have subscribed to pay per view sites on the net and I rent a lot more dvds over the net. I think thanks to the internet you can find a lot more variety and more films. If you are trying to get your fill by just going to the local DVD shop. I say for most fans good luck because a lot of the new stuff on the racks is just crap, however if you combine the resources of the internet with a visit to your local porn shop. Please tell us what sorts of films you are looking for and maybe we can agree or disagree.
Yeah, but some guy was saying pretty much the exact same thing 5 years ago (actually nearly 6 years) in Porn is getting boring. How do you explain that? You can't! [xx)] Okay, maybe not quite the same.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 3:28AM
Disagree, there's better gonzo being made now than any time previously. I pretty much gave up watching porn through the 90s and early 2000s, so much shit. Don't care for gangbangs much anyway, they were usually terribly made.
The amount of gonzo porn involving US studios shooting Euro girls has decreased. It was way better when they went over 'there'. Now the Euro girls come over here in dribs and drabs. That's my main complaint. Otherwise it's all good.
Ceiling Cat is watching you masturbate. 371 Posts 8/03
Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 5:47AM
^ agree
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Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 10:31AM
If you are referring to Series such as Lewd Conduct, Debauchery, World Sex Tour and Debauchery, all which helped put Vince Voyeur on the map. Then I agree. Those films were superbly made and featured some of the most delectable treats in Europe. My question is why can't they figure out how to do that with American girls? I'd love to see a comparable quality of girls doing similar acts on film. I don't think it's for a lack of talent.Too bad the right kind of American girls seem to express the same lack of inhibition. For years I hear a lot of talk here from a lot of these chicks but no action, and THAT is what makes for crappy boring porn for most people I believe. Think of the juiciest, most stacked and curviest American cuties. When in the past several years do you see chicks that will do Anal or DP for their fans. Sure you have a sparse handful that are doing it . Tara Lynn Fox Tatiana Kush Leenuh Rae Charlotte Vale Holly Mae Holmes Then you have a whole crapload of fake boobed or flat chested chicks that are doing it. Neither of which most fans want to see in my opinion.
I completely agree ... (see the whole thread about what do you dislike in porn) The most frustrating thing is the inability and/or lack of desire to change When and only after "the regular porn industry" is near completely dead and everyone has exactly what they want, (or very close to it) custom tailored to them by some sort of "porn-pod" like maybe interactive virtual hologram like device, or near lifelike female sex robots down the road, giving them what they want and how they want, only then will they see the light after these new companies gather up all the money to be made
Disagree....there was alot of garbage 5 years ago...and there was some decent stuff too. Today is the same, in my opinion. Edited by - spitty on 7/22/2010 1:24:28 PM
So you're basically saying you miss the Anabolic/Diabolic type gangbangs? I agree if you are because some of the early ones especially were legendary. However, most large gangbangs are basically 3-4 guys actually fucking the girl and 16 other guys (probably lousy performers) jerking off trying to keep wood. Not fun to watch and probably hard and expensive to film a good scene. It seems hiring 4 guys that can really fuck the girl combined with better focus on the sex instead of an assembly line of 1-2 min long "turns" makes for better porn.
Yeah I gotta admit I don't miss those at all. Not enough girls to keep all the guys interested, and way too many mopes that I'd doubt it'd matter anyway. Add way too many women with bad attitudes, who clearly don't want to be there, and you get the usual clusterfuck.
I've heard/read that 'new porn is boring' ever since I started discussing it in RL or on the net, which is about twenty years ago. I've always thought most 'new porn' was boring. By which I mean this: if I collected every porn DVD released last month I'd find most of it boring, and maybe 5% would be stuff I enjoyed. If I did the same next month I'd probably find the same. If I'd done the same 5 or 10 or 15 years ago I'd have found the same. Out of any current month's production, in any year, I'd find most of it boring. But when I started watching porn I didn't only check out new porn, did I? I had at least a decade of backlog to search through to find what I liked. I'd find a girl I liked and try to find more of her movies, or I'd get into a style of movie or genre of action I liked and pursue that for a while. And that took years, so as I did that more movies were being shot and released and were added to the backlog. So for many years I was constantly finding material I liked while a bit more was being added to the stockpile yet to be found. But eventually you sort of catch up. You get to a point where you don't easily find one more movie with a favourite starlet, or one more good genre movie from five years ago. So you start noticing only the stuff released this month. And you realise how much of it isn't your scene. Nowadays I'm familiar with most major porn stars from about 1975 onwards. I know if I like their looks, their performances, their passion. But even now I occasionally find out about a great looking girl who I hadn't noticed before, or an unknown performance by a favourite, or a company selling old scenes I didn't know I could get. If I bother to search I'll find something I like, whether it's from the current productions or not. I know that statistically there'll be lulls every so often where it isn't 5% of a month's production that I like, it's not even 1%. And yes there will be fashions, of course: for a while gang bangs were a big deal, now they don't seem to be as popular. But how much do you want to bet that there will be at least one release every month that focuses on gang bangs? The popularity changes, the number of movies of one act or another changes as fashions wax and wane, but there's very little real change in what's actually done in porn, notwithstanding legalities. And how likely is it, really, that in all the productions out there from the past, anyone has seen every scene they'd like? If you've noticed that porn is mostly boring, it just means you have to go looking for what you like, that it isn't well represented among the current fashions being shovelled at you - but you'll find it somewhere.
He's right though. Porn was more much less mainstream 5 years ago and the society was far less "slutified". Porn was still something obscene, perverted and forbidden. Also, the supply of new porn was limited, not much was available for free. Now free porn is to be found all around the internet, half of celebrities are completely open about being total whores (some even with a video online to prove it) and the society in general has become so open about sex that it is now perhaps completely banal as a topic. Pretty much the only people left who are openly opposed to pornography are the likes of that Lubben woman. Also, pornography has become more hardcore, 18 years old girls are coming into porn now willing to do everything. Somehow it all turns me off. But maybe it's just me. Maybe the young people are still as excited about their first fuck flick as we were many years ago. Maybe it's still one of the milestones marking the road to adulthood along with the first kiss, first time a girl let you cop a feel, first dry hump... But I kinda doubt it, porn is just too mainstream to be exciting anymore.
Yes. Also series like 'Outnumbered' by Erik Everhard and Orgy World by Evasive Angles which mostly featured Euro girls. Assman was another good one.
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huskerhat25 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 5:16PM
Outnumbered is not something that was on the top of my lists although Everhard is an exceptional performer in the Diabolic films. Orgy world was terrific as well, except for when they did the Asian and Brazilian girls. Nothing against either, but those models chosen were kinda crappy in my opinion compared to a lot of the European chicks. Assman was great as well. To Fergus point I think you should have established some criteria after watching porn so lont to make this comparison to the past therefore if you look hard enough.You should find the porn you want, and YES you will be surprised by some of the hot newbies occasionally and put them on your memory bank as performers you may want to see again in NEW film. And that alone will make new porn not so boring. There is too many resources available on the internet to name that point you to find the actresses or types of porn you are looking for.
personally i feel that the quality has got better and there's lot to choose from to match one's tastes....EA , Sam , Mason , William and Mike have turned out some good stuff worth treasuring...and the performers are as usual beautiful...
Apparently You Have NOT Been Watching The Right Porn... I started October 15, 2007 I Think Every Scene I've Done Has Been Unique In A Lot Of Ways... Especially Since Companies Vary In What They Allow Me To Do!! My "No Rules" Scenes Always Being A Great Highlight! =)
I just wanna thank to Buttman, Belladonna, Evil Angel and pecially Jay Sin for existing an makeing every anal fantasy happen! Specially with you Phoenix!!! Ever since I saw you on Gape Lovers 3 my life has changed in a happyer way ...and this would have hardly hapened 5 years ago for sure
Actually I don't know the relevance of the 5 yrs ago reference. What was so different 5 years ago? Generally, there is so much good material it is hard to keep up with. The research you can do is always getting better with more sites,VOD, databases, wikis etc. It is like you open up one door of awesome material and then there are three new doors. No wonder people like David Duchovny need to go to rehab, there is endless great material and you need to have strong self control.
So many retirements of really hot performers, too many knuckleheads(yes, I'm talking about Tone Capone and Shorty Mac)getting a shot a series work. Internet material taking precedent over local stores. Crap direction. Crap cinematography. Good companies MIA: Evasive Angles, Seymore Butts and others. This period reminds me of the late eighties when things got a bit lame.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 11:42PM
^ If you're missing Evasive Angles and Seymour we obviously have very different tastes in porn. Evasive had hot girls but the scenes were often lacking, Seymour's flicks were near unwatchable most of the time.
I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04
Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 3:22AM
Totally agree to the title. I thinke the gonzo stuff from 2002 to 2006 was the best ever made. Afterwards it went downhill. But there are a few exceptions.
Newer music bores me. Recent porn has been doing alright. If you're bored, that's the perfect time to take a vacation from watching the naked people, right? Seriously. That's not intended as a verbal slap but a real suggestion to consider. Take a sabatical for a while, then try watching porn again after your lust batteries have recharged. Sometimes we just tire of the daily inundation factor. Anything can become "same-old, same-old" if you do constant repetitions---even endless shrimp at the Sizzler.
as for changes over time, in the 90's I didn't have much frame of reference, so at times I was thinking "this is great," and then after the next one I'd think "this is kind of half-assed!" but I didn't know for sure until the 2000s, when things got so over the top abusive and quadruple-penetration-ish that I was like "holy crap! that's so intense that it's disgusting me and isn't what I signed up for at all!" For the last few years, though, I've felt like porn has found the right mix, neither too cold nor too hot.... the Goldie-locks Porridge that's just right, in other words. Less and less am I finding scenes to be objectionable like they were in the early turn of the century years. Maybe that's why some people are bored. But it also means that more stuff now shows PEOPLE (not cum-dumpsters) having thorough AND enjoyable sex, and the filming isn't as horrible as when gonzo started (though that's always a matter of degrees). So, it's a good era. Part of what made me miss the 90s at first was even though a lot of the stuff then was half-assed, the way scenes were set up gave them a chance of capturing some awesomely erotic moments on tape, which in gonzo only happens completely by chance (not as often) due to their philosophy of "let's keep it real by not planning anything and just filming whatever the frick happens, no matter how dismal the result!" And in the 90's I felt the performers brought more real sexual personality to the job and were allowed to shine more, whereas the recent era has forced performers to change their approach to, "Look at how much damage I can take! That prooves I'm the best, right?" Well, my answer to that was, by and large, "No." That wasn't the best recipe for truly engaging porn. It was sideshow stuff. So I'm glad things seem to be balancing out again to where stars can shine and porn enables quality jerking again.
I think the biggest problem with porn today is that no one knows how to edit anymore. The phrase "Less is more" applies to porn, too. You've got these three hour movies with 30 to 40 minute long scenes and that's just too much. It's not even creative scenes, either. It's 30 minutes of people just fucking on couches and beds in the typical vanilla posistions. I don't care how hot a girl is, there's going to come a point when I lose interest and get bored. In the 70's and 80's, scenes were about five minutes long and that was way too short. In the 90's, scenes were 10-15 minutes and that was just the right length of time. Now, though, scenes just go on and on and on for over half an hour and movies last 2 and a half to three full hours. I don't mind compilations being 3 to 4 hours long because their not designed to be watched in one sitting, but regular movies, particularly plot driven movies, shouldn't be that long. I mean, does a porno about roller derby girls really need to be longer than the fucking Godfather? The first B Skow movie I saw was "Roughed Up" and it was a really good flick. I liked it a lot and I made a mental note to check out more of his movies. Then I saw another movie he did that was three hours long and only had five scenes in it. It just went on and on and on. I didn't even finish it. I couldn't take it. He just turned the camera on and let the people go and didn't edit the scenes at all. I recently watched "I Wanna Bang Your Sister" by Mike Quasar and it was the same thing. He just flipped the camera on and let it go. That could've be a really great movie if he had trimmed the scenes down to about 15 minutes long but instead it was a chore to get through it all. I just kept thinking over and over "Ok, you can change posistions now! I get it! Come on! Hurry up! I've got to get some sleep!" Directors today need to learn how to edit scenes down and keep the energy up. Don't just show the whole fucking scene you recorded. Also, look at your movie as a whole, not just the individual scenes. Keep the energy and heat flowing. Changing posistions frequently helps, too.
I tend to prefer movies made in the late 70 to late 80's for a wide variety of reasons but that hasn't stopped me from watching porn made since then. What I find to be the thing that is often lacking in todays porn is a connection between the performers. Too often we have a very attractive lady and a well endowed gentleman that have sex in a variety of positions with a constant back and forth between penetration and oral sex, which at some culminates in the all important pop shot. That's more common, and in my opinion more annoying now because scenes are so long. A gonzo scene should not be above 20 minutes because at some point all your doing is repeating yourself. I don't know if it's a lack of talent or a new way of filming porn but I prefer the shorter scene.
This is a criticism of current porn I agree with, mostly. Once in a while I see a long scene that I think is justified by the action. But that's almost never a one-on-one. If there are two girls with three or four guys then there can be enough action to last thirty or forty minutes (not an hour). If you have a few minutes of tease then a gangbang, fair enough, that can be thirty or forty minutes. That said, some of the best group gropes I've seen were Private ones from the early 90s that lasted twenty minutes or less.
That's a valid criticism (scenes being too long) but there are just as many people who scream and yell if a movie is only 90 minutes long. They're buying double disc 5 hour Jules Jordan movies and feeling ripped off if another company offers something of lesser running time. For the record, I agree with you; 15 minute sex scenes would be perfect.
dunnow guys, I´m startig to think this threat is just showing one side of the coin with people talking about facts of porn that may be boring for someone, but ok for the others. I feel very confortable whatching a Buttman or Jay Sin movie with sceenes that go for more than 40 minutes, and still belive this is a great moment for porn, at leas the one i´m whatching. Luck!
There's no one size fits all solution. I watch all my porn on DVDs. I like the longer scenes because I have more options. If I prefer certain positions I get longer and multiple takes in that position. If I don't care about a position I can easily zip past it. In the days of video tapes it might've been a hassle but not on DVD. Just because a scene is 40 minutes long doesn't mean you have to sit through all forty if you aren't enjoying it or certain parts of it. Having longer scenes allows the viewer more control. There are times I'm really into certain girls just doing tease where they're just walking around and posing. I like being able to enjoy that for awhile if I want to. If not i simply move past it. Sometimes I just want to just watch the BJs. Sometimes just sex in certain positions that I like better. Sometimes I just like the anal sex portion of the movie. With longer scenes no matter what I'm into at the time with longer scenes there's enough footage of it to make me happy. That to me is much better than shorter scenes that I wish had longer takes of...whatever.
To each his/her own and everyone has their own way of watching but that's my take on longer scenes.
Again, I disagree. Even if it's a feature the sex scenes should be treated and looked at as individual scenes because for many people they're the main reason for watching. The scenes should be able to stand on their own. Changing positions frequently isn't as important as changing camera angles frequently. If a girl is in the reverse cowgirl position show that from diferent angles and different depths. Switch up on close-ups, extreme close-ups, medium and long shots. I think most of the performers I watch/like tend to do a pretty fair job of keeping the energy up al things considered. You have to remember that it might take a couple of hours to shoot a scene and sometimes there are breaks in between.
My feeling is a porn DVD should be at least 2 1/2 hours long...or drop the price. If you don't want longer scenes, give me more girls per movie. Of course consumers will feel ripped of if another company is offering up 4-5 hours on two discs for only 10 to 15 (or whatever) bucks more. Either longer scenes or more girls per movie or have a girl or two do more than one scene per movie. I've never understood why so many companies insist on each girl only doing one scene per movie.
I agree that overall today's stuff is better. Also, I notice when I buy a DVD from 5 years or so ago the stuff I usually like the best is done by the same directors I like now. These guys haven't gotten worse, they've gotten better and usually have more control today to make the type of stuff they do best. Plus, there are so many new directors doing their thing and many of the good ones have a strong and distinct vision. The girls in the last few years have been great. I have hot new girls, old favs returning and often turning up their heat, and some girls who are just taking it to the next level. More MILFs, more bubble butts, more big breasts, more wild girls, and the girls who've been around awhile still doing their thing. The economy has had an effect on the porn biz overall but even that's been good news for me. More companies are offering up cheap comps of their greatest scenes. Lots of stuff I never seen before starring girls I like or never got to see.
I'm a guy who only watches solo and girl-girl scenes (I know, I'm weird - if a guy starts talking, puts a hand into the scene, or a porn stud shows up in the middle of the scene, I fast forward or skip to the next scene). I don't go in for the Girlfriends Films, Sweetheart Video stuff -- too slow-moving, not enough close-ups, good camera angles, or lighting to see what I want to see which is pretty pussy. I'm more into what Jay Sin, Belledonna, Joanna Angel and others are making with great production values and nasty ladies of all ages showing me what they got. I'm definitely more gonzo-oriented and get bored with artsy stuff. So those are my tastes. I have to say, from my perspective, porn has gotten better and better over the years and there are way more titles with the stuff I want to see coming out now than there was five years ago. I do admit to burn-out at times. If I've seen the same type of scene with the same type of girls shot with the same lighting and camera angles over and over that it's seared into my memory, I get bored and fast forward. That's probably what has lead to this topic of "new porn is boring". All you can do is try to seek out new directors, performers, series and production companies. You might have to sacrifice production quality a bit but even the worst produced stuff nowadays is better than some of the norm years ago thanks to the modern digital equipment. I like that there are porn websites doing interesting stuff that go on to release DVDs. I'm always excited when a website like Twistys or Brazzers "Hot and Mean" decide to dip their toe in the water and release a DVD. I don't know if 3-D is truly in the future for porn or what that will do for the industry but it seems likely and could be incredible. So I think porn has a great future!
Is there anything more beautiful and erotic in the world than a woman licking another woman's anus? 51 Posts 12/09
Posted - Aug 1 2010 : 9:50AM
To some extent I agree with you and also the original poster. For me, nothing is more soulless, bland, and downright awful than the period from about 1995 to roughly 2003, although there are always wonderful exceptions, helped in no small measure by people like Nina Hartley and Ginger/Amber Lynn returning to show the newbies a thing or three, not to overlook the occasional no nonsense lesbo action here and there which almost makes up for some of the junk. I hate (or least 99% of the time) gonzo, one of the rare exception being Bionica and Sasha's 1989 Buttman lesbian scene, but that still had a classic generic vibe about it, stiletto pumps, hairstyles, make up, old school film, and didn't descend into a yawn inducing full scale orgy. Full scale orgies, stripper heels, excessive make up, high definition film, stupid gimmicks like party nurses outfits, camera work straight from N.Y.P.D. Blue, fake tits, shaved vaginas, etc, O.T.T. action that takes the erotic joys from porn, etc, means that I generally tend to favour 1970s movie scene lesbo action, and in particular, mid 80s to early 90s video tape lesbo scenes, no talking to the camera, intimate environments, stilleto pumps, etc. Of course even then you will always get some idiotic drooling guy who you would just love to punch in the nose spying on it, or even sitting beside the chicks which has ruined many an otherwise perfect Lesbian scene. it cuts both ways I guess ;-) Give me Nina in glossy red lips and nails and stiletto pumps sensually rimming some girl with a sensual smooth jazz theme creeping on the background ahead of some plastic skank with awful S'n'M boots violently eating some chick's asshole on high definition film while the director shoots off his mouth over it, and the camera shakes likes a hurricane is blowing behind it. But let me say again, I have come across plenty of good post mid 90s to present stuff (I think things are taking a slight turn for the better again) and lots of retro stuff that is utter garbage on every possible level.
I'm sure your first point is right; pretty much every criticism I'd offer will have people saying "Noo, I love that!" And yes, I've seen several criticisms here that would leave me pornless if the entire industry took them up. On the length of scenes - it's certainly no big deal, I do know how to fast forward or skip. That's a slight interruption of my train of thought, ahem. Draxxx makes a good point further on about longer scenes: in a well-made long scene you get plenty of every type of action you like, and that means you can watch or zip as you prefer depending on your mood. Jules Jordan movies seem good for this in my experience, and so do Christoph Clarke's. If you want to see mainly oral then cumshots you can 'edit' the scene that way with some fast forward, and watch the whole movie that way. And you'll still probably get a good five minutes of oral in each scene. So, for me it's not a big criticism. And I have to say that occasionally a long scene just blows me away. An example would be the orgy scene in Euro Angels Hardball 11 with Monique, three other girls and four or five guys. It went for a long time but it was constant varying action, well lit, well shot, well paced. Or Cherry Jul's gang bang in Angel Perverse 8: one girl teases, then fucks four guys including anal play with a dildo and lots of DP, then has another four or five guys in to cum all over her. It's understandable that such a scene takes more than twenty minutes, and I certainly wouldn't want it shorter. I guess 'long bad scenes' is what I dislike. I don't want to pay for forty or fifty minutes of boredom. You might as well leave the space on the DVD blank. I'd appreciate it if there was a bit more judgement about whether or not a scene was really worth all that time.
Well Mike, IIRC you produced one of my favourite examples of exactly the right length one-on-one scenes if the heat is there: Drive Thru 4. For me, that really worked. I liked the 'real time' idea. Those weren't fifty minute scenes, but they weren't 10-15 either. IIRC they were generally 20-25 minutes or so, and the fact that the camera kept rolling all the way lent the atmosphere a reality I could feel, in contrast to some other gonzo where I suspect they might have shot the scene in two parts on separate days. That 'reality' meant I also felt more involved with what the performers were experiencing, which I guess could be difficult if you didn't get a good match, but my impression was you mostly did. I mean, who knows to what extent they were acting, but my feeling was that I knew more about their experience and emotion than usual. Kudos on that one.
I think your on to something there with me also. To me, how a scene flows is more important than how long it runs. I've seen some 40 minute scenes that flowed perfectly, and some that needed to be trimmed by 20-25 minutes. If the girl is really into the scene, I rarely even notice the time on it.
I think todays porn is a litte too boring as well. I do miss the years from 1998-2006 which I pull so much of my stuff from. But, the Golden Age of video porn was the stuff done from 87-94 when the women were hotter and were just starting to do the real nasty stuff that those in the late 90s and mid 00s were blowing away. If the intensty of that timeline continued we would not say the modern stuff is lacking. What lacks today is star power of the girls and a stay with-ness that makes you want to buy product and have a copy. Most of the women today don't have star power......you know I am right. (With love to Phoenix Marie, who commented on this site and Lisa Ann) there are no real females that make you wanna jump to buy or have staying power!!!
I think it was Michael Raven who talked about the death of the porn star and the rise of the porn company a handful of years ago. Instead of being a Jenna fan or a Nina fan, you're a Naughty America fan, an Evil Angel fan - the girls are interchangeable, disposable and just used to support the company. I didn't like it when I first read it and I don't like it in practice. Like the poster above me, I WANT to be blown away by a woman of mythic proportions. Where is she? You pull away a company's support, their commitment to making a performer a star, she's left to her own devices (helloooooo, Monstar!!) and it just doesn't work quite as well. Edited by - savoy on 8/4/2010 6:00:57 PM