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Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:01AM
Shoildn't you be doing homework?
Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:25PM
Looks like you skipped your spelling homework.
Kendra, thank you for perpetuating this phenomenon.
Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:53PM
Christian had this on his blog today about the pit falls of porn girls who waste their money.
It was very good.
I think some would prefer knowing a girl was forced into a "ten man anal gang bang" Than have her do it willingly
From Christians blog
"lets talk porn finances for a second without getting into specifics about people's rates, of course.
I have talked previously about the instability we face as performers, and the relatively short shelf life of many female performers. Here is the two biggest mistakes that porn performers make financially. First, performers always ASSUME that they will be booked in the future, when nothing is set in stone. Second, performers love to spend money that they earned already, but haven't got paid for yet (the earlier payroll examples). Just because I work for Naughty America on Tuesday, doesn't mean I can spend the money I made that day until I actually PICK UP the check and deposit it into my bank. It sounds like common sense, but you would be so surprised at the number of performers who live hand to mouth. Poor budgeting, poor planning, and rampant spending on luxury goods and services, ruins many performers. There is HUGE pressure to keep up with the Jones's in our business, and many new girls end up spending most of their earnings on jewelry, clothes, purses (I know a girl who bought a 2,500 dollar purse), or buying ridiculously expensive cars (that they will never pay off). They spend money capriciously because in their mind, there will ALWAYS be money in the future, because they ASSUME that they will continue to be booked. So they burn through all their earnings, and have very little, if anything in savings. Then when something unforeseen happens to them, they are left struggling to pay their bills at the end of the month. There is nothing more eye-opening than to see the desperation that some performers face at the end of the month. Begging for work, doing anything to make some money, its depressing sometimes.
I sometimes wish that agents would take the new girls (and guys) aside and explain to them the advantages of having a checking and savings account. I know many of the performers aren't exactly MENSA material, but still......having a bank account shouldn't be that hard. In this unstable and unpredictable business (every scene you do could be your last in the business) having a decent sized nest egg is CRUCIAL for long term stability."
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Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 3:33PM
I think it would be extremely beneficial for porn agents and porn producers to counsel these girls on saving money and planning for the future. And continue doing so the whole time they are there.
The porn industry belongs to the porn agents and porn producers not some girl from Kansas that comes to town for 3 months.
But That girl from Kansas is the face of YOUR industry. If she goes back home with a new car and money other girls will follow. But if you send her home with a blown out asshole and no money. She will not say " It's my fault I blew all my money" but she will blame the porn industry (YOUR industry) to anyone that will listen.
There should a big effort to get drugs out of the porn industry. I believe some of these porn producer are dealing drugs as well. I bet more than one girl was paid for her scene in drugs.
If you have to "rat" them out to the cops "rat" them out. Clean up YOUR industry.
Try everything you can to see these girls go home with money and a positive story about YOUR industry.


 
Narcissus
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 3:53PM
drugs test? a good idea in theory but hard to work out in this industry. perhaps companies just refusing to hire girls that appear high. also agents refusing to rep them if they're strung out would be helpful. this will line the girls up on their own (at least the ones tough enough to remain)
smart agents would instruct their girls to walk off a set if drugs are present. after enough of this, producers would police themselves. snitching is uncool.
Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 8:40PM
I didn't say anything about drug testing. But these girl are all ready being tested once a month. Why not include drugs. The risk of an intravenous drug user to the industry is great. As is the risky sexual behaver of drug users.
AIM is already set up to do counsellings. Sharon Mitchel is an ex drug user. AIM should be set for drug testing and counsellings as well. Don't you think it would benefit the other performers to know the extent of their co worker drug use.
In the days past porn was stuck with any girl willing to fuck on camera. That is not the case today.
With testing and it on they're test results other performer and producers would know what they were dealing with.
"snitching is uncool." We're not Jr High this can be life and death for people involved.
Narcissus
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 9:02PM
agreed. A.I.M. should drug test. it's not like drug testing would cause a shortage in hot girls wanting to fuck on camera. drug testing would weed out alot of the lower end girls. i would imagine in the end, porn fans would benefit from healthier and better quality girls appearing in vids industry wide.
no, we're not in jr. high... and snitching can be life or death for the people involved as well.
nietzsche
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 9:26PM
What are you studying in school? I want to ask what school you go to as well, but i won't.
Kendra Kay
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Clam Digger
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"Shoildn't you be doing homework?"
Are u from New jersey? and yeah, i am ALWAYS doing homework, ugh, usually naked now that i have my own room, haha
Kendra Kay
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 10:42PM
Kensington Chapp
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"Kendra, thank you for perpetuating this phenomenon."
I live to serve Mr. Chapp :) but the annoying thing is, when i search for my name, i come up with everyone named Kay or Kendra, lol
Kendra Kay
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 10:44PM
about the finances thing, my ex bf called me a money Nazi so savings isnt a problem. but i would like to say that Dion from Combat Zone made a BIG deal about that with me, he told me clearly that he saw lots of girls make tons of money and end up washed out of the business broke. maybe Dion should do weekend financial seminars :)
Kendra Kay
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 10:47PM
nietzsche
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"What are you studying in school? I want to ask what school you go to as well, but i won't."
I'm a psych major with an expected minor in art history. one guy from my myspace thought that was really funny and said that I will end up fucking with both a guys heads, hahaha.
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 10:50PM
I hope you're planning on getting a master's to go along with that bachelor's in psych. Otherwise it's pretty useless in today's job market.
Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:08PM
Kendra All I have left to say is Good luck and have fun. I can't wait to buy your first DVD.
Keep us updated on what your in DVD'd web sites ect
Edited by - Shagdog on 2/5/2008 11:14:16 PM
 
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:10PM
hit the button "look for this phrase" when you perform your search. that will bring up only "Kendra Kay".
Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:14PM
How did you guess?
friedbrownball
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Posted - Feb 9 2008 : 4:33PM
Kendra -
It is proven that on a per capita basis, girls who do massive blowbangs and gangbangs - at least 25 guys, with everything swallowed - will be millionaires almost instantly. There is a direct connection between the number of men fucked and sucked in a scene, with a coefficient factor related to amount of jizz swallowed, and the scale of the girl's future wealth.
Also, if you also fuck me, then the amount of money you make will be incrased by a factor of 3.
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Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 9 2008 : 4:57PM
I don't understand how watching 50 guys jack off is a turn on much less BE in a group jacking off with them.
What is the etiquette for that, is alright to rub your dick on the guys butt in front of you lol turn around and sword fight with the guy behind you lol
Are reach rounds expected or what
These movie have to much of gay porn element for me.

Edited by - Shagdog on 2/9/2008 4:59:30 PM

xxaru
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Posted - Feb 9 2008 : 10:33PM
Drug test for what? And who’s gonna pay to have everyone drug tested for controlled substances? That’s just not rational. It’s not the producer’s responsibility to counsel, educate, and be parental figures to the performers. For people that work under contract things are a bit different, and what you say could have some merit.
Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 9 2008 : 11:22PM
"Drug test for what?" In drugs test you test for drugs. Dude did you read the post? lol
"And who’s gonna pay" Who pays for AIM for STD's test now? It 's the performers who pay. Drug test are only 50 to 75 dollars.
AIM already has counselors at the clinic. It could and should easily be expanded to include Drug testing and counseling.
"It’s not the producer’s responsibility to counsel, educate, and be parental figures to the performers."
Like I said this industry belongs to the agents and porn producer not the girls from Kansas.
As a businessmen it's in their interest to keep porn as clean as possible.
Don't you think performers should know who is shooting Meth and heron?
Porn doesn't need drug girls.


Edited by - Shagdog on 2/9/2008 11:50:21 PM

xxaru
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moodyblues
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First of all, be very honest with yourself about your looks? Do you need to lose that extra 10 pounds? Are you toned up yet? Is your nose a little too big? Do you have nice chin? Are you considered pretty? Do you have acne? Are your teeth pretty and straight? If not, work on all that and learn how to take care of your body, because is the main tool of your trade. Get whatever facial plastic surgery you'll need before you get in the industry. A very pretty face is important, because you'll work more than a girl with a body similar to yours with a less pretty face.
Also read the message boards, AVN, articles on the adult industry and about the people you will be dealing with. Get to know those names and reputations so you can figure who you want to work with and stay away from.
Once you're in good physical shape, try dancing at a local club to see if actually like sex work. If you can handle the customers, competitiveness with other girls, and club politics, then very likely you can handle working in LA's Porn Valley.
You should also set yourself up One Model Place and do some trade for print shoots for your own portfolio so you can mail photos to magazines or email pictures to websites looking for models. If you have a screen name in mind, register the url an d all variations and copyright that name too (costs about $400). Do as much solo magazine and website work as you can in order to get your name out there about build up a following, so that people are anticipating your next move.
You will have people urging you to do a variety of things like anal, etc, but do not do anything you are uncomfortable with, because you will have to live with it the rest of your life because it will be captured on film.
Like others have said, start slow, do solo, then solo with toys, then girl /girl, and so forth. Have a real job with flexible hours (like dancing at a club), so that you are not solely dependent on performing on camera for your living. That will keep from being shot out (do not shoot 50 movies in one year, aim for 10, leave them wanting more, get a website, where you shoot your own scenes where you push the envelope a bit more, do live cam shows etc, Vicky Vette is a good example of this, she has 25,000 members). And, like Eli and Mike have said, find out which directors are legit, will pay you, and most of all treat you with respect on set. Find out which ones who will try to get you to do and extra scene without paying you the additional fees (never get loud and angry when this occurs, just ask politely, 'What extra will I be paid for this extra scene, my understanding is that I was here to do this one particular scene for XXX amount.' Be professional about it and also get your agent on the phone if you have one to assist you with the issue -- this is something your agency should definitely know about the moment it happens, because trying to collect after the fact is a nightmare for them).
Always try and be on time or early for your shoot. Print out the directions using Mapquest. If you will be late, call and let someone know.
Try and find out what the director or photographer wants you to wear at the shoot and bring enough clothes for him to pick one that is suitable (basically, you will tote around a suitcase from shoot to shoot -- don't bring valuables like Ipods to the set, because they can disappear -- your suitcase should have a good lock). You'll want to have your own equipment, i.e. lube, dildos, vibrators, lotion, anti bacterial wash, eye wash, essentially whatever you need, because maybe you're allergic to what they already have on set and with sex toys that have been laying around on set you don't know where they have been and it is not worth the risk. Pack some nutritious snacks like dried fruits, luna bars, and water, because usually the food on set is junk and you don't want to eat that.
Eli and Mike are dead on about boyfriends. You do not need one. They will suck you dry. That is why plenty of female performers have relationships with each other. There are only a handful of female performers in relationships with males that are worthwhile (Eli and Kylie- Eli already had a career in porn prior to meeting Kylie that made him $$$, Jessica Drake and Brad - he was already well established in the industry, Ashley Blue and Dave Naz - already a successful photographer making $$ ). If a guy that owns a big company like Wicked takes a shine to you, that might be worth pursuing (it didn't hurt Jenna Jameson's career).
Keep your hands and feet nicely manicured. Maintain your hairstyle. If you decide to color your hair, keep it up properly. Same thing with adding extensions. Keep them looking nice.
Promote yourself, try and get on Playboy TV, channels like that to get your name out there.
One thing that no one has addressed is that porn is like the Mafia, once you are in, there is no 'leaving'. Look up the Tericka Dye story. She was out six years, had gone on to a college degree and a teaching career until one of her old scenes was spotted on a compilation tape by a group of students hanging out watching porn. Be prepared to be recognized while you are out doing the most mundane of tasks. That is something you should consider.
Edited by - moodyblues on 2/14/2008 5:57:59 PM
friedbrownball
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Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 2:04PM
Lol - sorry, my comment was an inside joke with Kendra - I taunt her by email about this kind of stuff. That was lost in translation here - which is not to say that I don't enjoy seeing a woman in a group of men. The reason it is not gay is b/c if she was removed, the whole turn-on would be lost - and also b/c there is not male/male contact except for the occasional DP/DAP/DPP. Blowbangs and gangbangs are hugely popular with the straight porn fans for a reason.
I like the sword fight idea though :)
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magnyc
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Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 2:24PM
Do you think Kendra will stay "retired" and focus on college?
 
friedbrownball
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Posted - Mar 10 2008 : 11:22AM
I had not heard she retired - though she was referring to herself as a part-time porner - but school seems to be the main thing for her.
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monkey power
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Posted - Mar 10 2008 : 3:55PM
Isn't the best success move in porn just to blow everybody on the set?
Then rinse and repeat?
No?
Does nobody really do that?
Darn.
Well, if someone did, I bet she'd be successful in porn.
AlexPanzer
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Posted - Mar 10 2008 : 11:30PM
What advice can you give a hairy dude with an everage weener like me?
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Posted - Mar 11 2008 : 4:18AM
Turn gay.
AlexPanzer
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No, because this is wrong.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
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Become a tranny.
Corben99
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Posted - Mar 12 2008 : 8:13AM
Well for starters you gotta make alot of noise like Teri Weigel in her movies. So much noise, that the dudes have to cover your mouth during the sex scenes. Follow her example. You could marry Ron Jeremy, he's got buku bucks. And take a lesson from all the Jenna Haze films. Look at the way she acts, and follow her example. I'm sure she's got more FAN LOVE than the other famous Jenna. And stop by a visit with Max Hardcore, and have a good chat with him about the business. ( just don't let him piss in your mouth.) You could also make How To Videos like Nina Hartley, and have a long chat with her about them. You could also chat up Tera Patrick, and ask her about it. Take a small lesson from each famous or infamous girl, and write it down in a book. And you will have the winning recipe. Look what happened to Taylor Rain, when she first got in the business. Take some of her example, and ultimately make it your own in the end. And you'll probably go down in history. And if you manage to run into Barbara Dare at the grocery store, chat her up a bit. ( she has some secrets she can fill you in on.)
sir wankalot
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Posted - Mar 12 2008 : 7:03PM
Kendra Kay in action
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Memphis Monroe
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Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 7:09AM
I actually just wrote an article on "Star Branding" for new girls and existing girls in the industry if anyone is interested. It just posted up on xbiz.com today
moodyblues
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Posted - Mar 21 2008 : 6:42AM
Gee, I guess she is not taking things slowly.
 
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Anal.
ryderskye
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 12:43AM
To quote my friend, the infamous hottie Lindsey Meadows... In order to be successful in the business you have to "own your shit"! The money will follow from there. If you don't understand the reference I will be happy to explain.
TheDevilinMissJones
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 12:52AM
Right place, Right Time, Positive Attitude, Great Energy, Spending a Monumental time on your website, myspace, communicating with your fans, and overall doing something innovative that peaks at the perfect time to propel you success and giving you the Star Factor that you soley crave for. Think ClubJenna.com when internet was starting it's peak.
If you really want to sell yourself to the flesh trade then you could take it to the next level and tell the fella's out there that "they've gotta pay to play."
Whatever peaks your interest and whatever you're comfortable with. "Here's your one chance Fancy don't let them down." haha.
your call.
Edited by - TheDevilinMissJones on 3/26/2008 12:54:25 AM
Bacteria
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 10:17AM
Well according to her Myspace, Kendra Kay has already decided to quit the business.
"just to let u know, i cancelled this myspace so i can focus more on school and finishing my degree, i just wanted to say thanks for all yer support and friendship with many of u. my email will still be up for like a month at kendra@kendrakay.net and then that will be gone too.
hope all of u have a happy life and go porn! :)"
backdoorman
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 10:18AM
Last I heard KK is now a full time student and not doing porn no mo no mo !!!
magnyc
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 12:27PM
All true...KK is just a small town college student in New England...hates the KK persona...the real girl is awesome and will be successful in anything she does
Dave_K99
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 2:06PM
She seems like a smart chick. I'd have liked to have seen more of her, but concentrating on her education is probably a sensible decision, hard to begrudge that.
Good luck to her in whatever she does in the future.
MrChrisEvans
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 2:26PM
LOL ELI CROSS making me ROFL...
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 1:17AM
First of all that little rant by the two of you cracked me the fuck up...brilliant!
Quasar: hysterical, easygoing and one of my favorite directors to shoot with
Eli: talented, yes, but NOT one of my favorite directors to shoot with
Thanks for the hot chick comment Quasar. :)
Kylie
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 11:38AM
Kendra if you want to be a success in porn here are a few hints.
1. Move to the San Fernando Valley area.
2. Bring some knee pads and two forms of ID
3. Go to AIM for HIV test (and any preventative shots they have for things you haven't caught yet.)
4. Find a pimp oops I mean agent (have sex with your agent to make sure you get work)
5. For your first scene do a 15 on 1 gang bang (but offer to fuck the director BEFORE the shoot)
6. Stop eating
7. Start doing drugs (real ones too, weed and beer don't count)
8. Have sex with anyone who says they can make you a star.
9. Blow, fuck and pay a publicist to help you seem bigger than life in the press
10. Aspire to be the best whore that ever walked the earth
That should get you started....
TheDevilinMissJones
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 12:20PM
11. Aspire to perform in a sequel to an authentic version of 2 Girls 1 Cup.
but yeah, The advice Chris has given. superb and quite sufficient.
julien1982
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 12:50PM
Read on MySpace, from Kendra:
Kendra Kay
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 2:13PM
Yep, I was kinda fucking up in school and decided I needed to focus back on that, finish my degree, but i have to confess I am tempted a lot when i am standing in the dc washing dishes that i should just move to LA and take my clothes off, lol. and no, I dont hate the KK personality, I just hate guys that took advantage of that and pester me endlessly about it.
backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 2:33PM
^ Thank God you recognize guys that take advantage of you. You are one smart young lady !!!!
TheDevilinMissJones
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 2:39PM
Tell me you're sarcastic and I'm the naive one for replying. Are girls that naive to know that most men take advantage of them via meeting up with them at clubs and messaging them on MySpace? Everyone is a producer these days, huh? ;-)
backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 10:57PM
No sarcasm intended. I really am glad she realizes that.
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