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jluango
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13 Posts
6/09
Posted - May 14 2013 : 1:59AM
Hey all, been a LONG time since I posted on here. Been trying to cut back on my XXX watching but it's not going so well. However, I wanted to talk about my BIGGEST PET PEEVE about scenes.
If you've done any searching through topics you'll see a common complaint; scenes ending with the dude frantically jerking himself to the cumshot. Now, being the inquisitive guy I am I've done some asking around about this. I've asked Alexis Amore, Lana Sands, Marie Luv, Alicia Tyler, and others (on twitter) why most scenes end with the dude jerking himself. One reason is the "viagra assisted" boner. Another reason is the excuse of making sure the cum actually hits the girl (give me a break). But I think many guys would agree that it KILLS any heat the scene has. I mean, if it was ME smashing some hot as girl and I was about to bust, I certainly wouldn't need to jerk my dick frantically to do it. I personally don't like seeing the dude touch his dick AT ALL when he's about to cum. I've even seen scenes where the girl is going all out to get that nut out, and the dude will STILL remove her hand to cum. Seriously, what the fuck?
So in the interest of providing feedback, here are my "rules" I'd implement if I was a director:
1) A compromise, if its absolutely necessary for the guy to jerk himself, HAVE IT DONE OFF-CAMERA!!!! When he's ready to come THEN let the female control the finish.
2) If it's a POV scene there should be zero-tolerance of self-jerking. POV is supposed to simulate the viewer having sex, enough said.
3) The more girls that are in the scene, the less there should be any self-jerking.
4) While I personally prefer facials, cum-in-mouth (open or closed), and the "i'm spreading you all over my mouth/chin/cheeks/face" finishes, where the cum actually goes is less important than HOW it is acheieved.
5) Stop giving me this nonsense about cum-dodgers. If a girl doesn't want cum anywhere on her body THEN WTF IS SHE DOING PORN THEN??!!
6) Lastly, the load CANNOT be weak.
The "Keep It Right There" series is a good example of how scenes should end. The bj-only scenes almost always end with the girl finishing the guy. (And in this series, they do it cum-in-mouth/oral creampie style). HJ's "Oral Cream Pie" series is another example. But it shouldn't be just for BJ-Only titles. Do this more often and maybe just maybe people would actually buy content instead of using other methods.
Geri
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329 Posts
7/12
Posted - May 14 2013 : 2:30AM
Once upon a time straightforward coitus interuptus used to be the norm in straight porn - i.e. when he was ready to pop he pulled out and immediately shot his cum on her tummy, back or bum. Which looks perfectly natural.
It takes a man who is fully in control of his body to do this. And of course he can't really do it if he's using a condom. Well, he might be able to pull out, yank the condom off and then shoot, but it doesn't look right
Edited by - Geri on 5/15/2013 3:42:51 PM
mr_sphinx
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117 Posts
10/08
Posted - May 17 2013 : 5:52PM
Right now 95% of porn ends with the male "talent" jerking himself off, and instead it should be the other way around, and 95% of the time, it should be some part of the girl (mouth, hands, pussy, ass) getting the guy off, regardless of the size of the load.
Self-jerking is the reason I can almost never buy porn, and why I routinely have to resort to multiple methods, (reading reviews, looking at screenshots, etc.) just to find scenes I can get off to. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous that the majority heterosexual male audience is okay with 95% of porn scenes ending with a man masturbating himself. A straight guy wouldn't beat off to a video of a man masturbating, but all of a sudden, if a woman is in the room, it's fine, stroke away. The male audience demands that men have huge dicks, but somehow falls short of demanding that the women they work with fulfill the fantasy and get those men off. Why do I want to watch a male porn star do exactly what I'm doing? The whole point of casual sex is for the other person to make you cum.When A guy jerks to finish, you ruin the entire fantasy.
It's hilarious how porn makes all these demands of women, like altering their bodies and appearances, and even sometimes their personalities, and then the men get to show up on set, use the woman like a sex toy, and then pump their own orgasm out... and they get PAID and called "talent" to do it. If every guy in his 20s got into shape and shaved his body hair off, I'd bet all of them could be "male talent" as far as the porn industry is currently concerned. I mean, God forbid that a beautiful woman (that you MIGHT not be attracted to) physically gets you off, right?
Edited by - mr_sphinx on 5/17/2013 5:59:22 PM
CreamyWetPanties
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13 Posts
8/13
Posted - Aug 14 2013 : 5:27PM
I agree 100% and im female. Let the girls finish it off its much much sexier.
travado
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1 Posts
8/13
Posted - Aug 15 2013 : 5:16PM
Yes, I have the same annoyance and confusion. Even in creampie scenes you sometimes have the guy not even use the pussy to help himself get off - instead he masturbates he pulls out and masturbates into the pussy. Which is ridiculous and ruins the whole enjoyment of a cream pie. Who in earth does that in real life where a girl says "you can cum inside me" and then you pull out and jack off into her??? It sometimes makes me question whether some of the actors are straight or have been desensitized and reduced to robots.
 
jluango
Member

13 Posts
6/09
Posted - Mar 29 2014 : 5:20PM
^^^^ That is one of THE most irritating trends in porn. What real straight dude is gonna jack his dick into a vagina instead of letting the vagina make him climax? Aint no way if I'm smashing someone like Moné Divine (or any girl for that matter) am I gonna take my junk out to jack into her.
Mass Facialties
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"Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie
9308 Posts
9/13
Posted - Mar 31 2014 : 12:07AM
Allowing the girl to finish off the guy with her hands results in weak cumshots; a guy has the strongest blast of cum when he's in control of his cock when cumming. Quite frankly, I prefer the guy to jerk himself off and cum on the girl's face (or wherever), although I admit it is a bit annoying when the guy's not ready to pop and you've got to watch him jerk himself off for 60+ seconds.
BTW, my biggest "pet peeve" in porn? Way too much camera time devoted to closeup views of pussies, dicks, assholes, etc.
BumBum
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395 Posts
1/07
Posted - Mar 31 2014 : 8:41PM
I don't see why any guy, if permitted to come inside a chick, would take his dick out at all. We spend all of our lives trying to get in there; who would willingly take it out?
NotMyRealName
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487 Posts
6/13
Posted - Mar 31 2014 : 9:08PM
@jluango: I have to say that I am in pretty much total agreement here. I posted it as one of my most hated things in the "what do you hate about porn most" thread. But same argument, I don't want to see a guy doing that, I want to see a girl doing that. The best are the girls that finish and then keep sucking or deep throating. Miko Lee was great at this. I started a thread (that so far has gone nowhere) about gang bangs and blow bangs that had girls finishing. Maybe either abandon it or expand on it and we could have a thread of "best finishers" or best scenes where the girl jacks the guy through pop shot or something. In some rare instances you get the multiple girl HJ pop shot, which is always a treat. Here's the link to my previous thread:
girls finishing guys in Gbangs/Bbangs
Kink Williams All-Star Supporter
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809 Posts
8/13
Posted - Mar 31 2014 : 9:09PM
Would love to see more posts from CWP.
On the stroke-off-then-pop thing, I guess it's like the "Peter North Syndrome".
I pretty much agree with all. Although, if its a pretty quick stroke-off and then pop - I don't think it takes away too much.
Erik Everhard is pretty good at this. The Oil Overload scene with Dillion is a good example - he pulls out and barely makes it to the facial before the jizz is flying. His scene with Molly Bennett - same kind of deal.
I'm reminded of a creampie scene between Mark Ashley and Crissy Cums in "Craving Big Cocks #7" (one of the multitude of Digital Sin gonzos). The two are fucking away in missionary until he unloads in her. Then he just pulls away his dick and you can see the jizz dropping from her lips.
Not a big creampie freak, but that one was well done. More than anything else, it's just great fucking.
Ashley was an absolutely stellar cocksmith.
One caveat on all this - you are asking quite a bit: to hold back while banging away on some pretty sexy ladies. Then, on demand, fire off a high flying load.
As Geri points out (earlier in the tread), not the easist thing in the world to master.
Edited by - KinkWilliams on 3/31/2014 9:12:38 PM
N00dlesDaddy
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Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Apr 1 2014 : 5:24AM
I'm as much a fan of ladies finishing the job as the next guy but neither do I have a problem with the self-administered cumshot. I like the way it reinforces the idea of the woman being used as an object of male gratification - a cum dump, if you will. That, to me, is sleazy and nasty - the way porn should be.
I even enjoy finishing this way in my personal life. I'll happily jerk off over whatever body part (face, arse, tits - in that order - are my favourites) my lady is proffering. The fact that it's being proffered is a massive turn-on and results in a satisfying cum. Jizzing internally is nice, yeah - if a bit boring and girly.
heyclammy
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242 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 1 2014 : 10:16AM
I'd like to see more long range facials with the guys shooting on the girl from an elevated position. It would be awesome to get 4 or 5 girls in a Mt. Rushmore pose and getting plaster by a dozen mopes shooting down on them from a balcony.
Also in group scenes, I'd like to see more fuck til ready, pull out and pop on a waiting face. In Erik Evardhard's Outnumbered, (1st vol, 1st scene) there are three consecutive facials done this way to end the scene.
As far as the girl finishing the guy, I guess I'm more concerned that the shooter hits the target.
N00dlesDaddy
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Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Apr 1 2014 : 10:59AM
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Mass Facialties
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"Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie
9308 Posts
9/13
Posted - Apr 2 2014 : 12:09AM
Guys shooting their loads on girls from elevated positions? Geez, these guys have a hard enough time hitting a girl's face with their load when they're standing just a foot away from their face!
Anyways, I'm with N00dlesDaddy here: the act of a guy jerking off and shooting his load on a girl's face is fuckin' hot, an act that is special and unique to porn.
DJboutit2
Member

438 Posts
4/09
Posted - Apr 2 2014 : 2:40AM
Top 5 way in order
1. Oral Creampie
2. Creampie
3. Shoot most of the load right in her mouth
4. On her pussy
5. On her tits
Back or stomach is a waste and no porn company should allow it
 
N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Apr 2 2014 : 5:16AM
To answer the title of this thread directly...
...with two girls eagerly licking each other's spooge-covered faces, then snowballing it back and forth. Never gets old for me.
dmichaels199
Member

8 Posts
3/14
Posted - Apr 2 2014 : 7:22AM
I'm with you on that! Good call.
Too many scenes end with the cumshot and bam! thats the end. I love when there is a little extended cum play, especially with a couple girls.
heyclammy
Member

242 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 2 2014 : 8:47AM
CummingLinguist All-Star Supporter
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5908 Posts
11/11
Posted - Apr 2 2014 : 8:55PM
I agree. It's lame, and it's usually pretty obvious that the guy is just doing it for the paycheck, and often the girl looks like she's just waiting for him to finish so she can shower.
The standard jerk-off on the girl's face finish is one of my biggest gripes with contemporary porn.
100% agree with your observation.
I'm not normally a fan of bukake or massive facials. But when the sleaziness of a guy jerking off on the girl is being fully developed, I'm OK with it.
But in contemporary porn, it's not being done for the sleaze factor. It's the only way the guy can cum.
N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Apr 3 2014 : 5:27AM
These guys spend the vast majority of the time trying not to cum, though - something they become pretty adept at, to the point where they can spend hours inside super hot girls without so much as a dribble. Then suddenly the director's shouting for the money shot. Guess that makes it hard to look natural. I'm still unconcerned, though - in the words of the late Bill Hicks, as long as I get to see "arcing ropes of jism hitting chins" I'm a happy boy.
heyclammy
Member

242 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 3 2014 : 11:15AM
N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Apr 3 2014 : 2:25PM
^ "It's not an adult feature unless at the end someone's gooey..."
bps
Member

313 Posts
2/07
Posted - Apr 4 2014 : 9:39AM
amen to this. enough with dudes whacking off. enough with the corporate insistence on feeding the face of a girl feigning enjoyment. it's lame.
N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Apr 4 2014 : 9:55AM
The great Lemmy of Motorhead was once asked: "Aren't you concerned girls only want you for your money?" "Who cares?" was his hilarious - and correct - reply.
Similarly, were someone to ask me if I was concerned that porn girls might be feigning enjoyment I'd be inclined to answer in the same vein.
chessmaster
Member

768 Posts
6/12
Posted - May 12 2014 : 7:43PM
I too hate the way most porn now ends with the dude having to finish himself off. The biggest problem for me is they take so long getting there. If the scene has to end with the male talent jacking for 5 minutes before he's ready, they should at least cut out that part. Or maybe they should get more male actors that can get off from the woman. Either way, let's hope this is addressed soon and porn has more scenes with the girl finishing him off.
 
Blackie
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935 Posts
3/14
Posted - May 12 2014 : 8:33PM
These guys are working for chump change and just wanna go home as soon as possible.
Amazing nobody ever asks them for their opinion.
Might be interesting.
DJboutit2
Member

438 Posts
4/09
Posted - May 13 2014 : 10:06PM
Here is one more way I can added to my org list
One girl suck on a guys dick and 2nd girl is jerking him off for a oral creampie
Dragon Sign
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12/13
Posted - May 15 2014 : 1:13PM
The frequent subject of any given matter regardless of private situation on top of evertything.
jm6d
Member

417 Posts
2/11
Posted - May 15 2014 : 2:34PM
Absolutely agree. The male sperm isn't sexy at all for me except when a woman does something sexy with it. Thus if possible no hands.
Especially sad are movies where the idea for instance is that a woman felches out sperm from her ass and we see a guy standing behind her jerking off and eventually puts his sperm on her outside, not even in her ass. Why, o, why? I repeat my self, no hands!
The Coaster Justin
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301 Posts
5/14
Posted - May 31 2014 : 11:47AM
Walking Wobbly and Sore.
Sorry, Fetish of mine. Again sorry.



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