There have been 100s of academic studies that show that the desire to have or watch multiple males participating in sex with a woman is in fact, a symptom of gayness. Read anything by Coit Blacker, Stanford University.
^ Bluto, not that I'm doubting you necessarily, but can you help us out a bit here? The only things I could find about Coit Blacker are that he's gay, he owns some investment property with Condoleeza Rice, and he writes a lot of books about the Cold War. Also, the phrase "symptom of gayness" kind of makes being gay sound like getting a disease, or having a personality disorder. You might want to rethink your wording on that one.
I would like to (again) promote my suggestion of banning users with less than 100 posts who call things gay. It would save us all a lot of time and effort and improve the quality of debate greatly.
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 6:05PM
Please! Since when has the number of posts someone's made had anything to the quality of the posts? I've made several amusing and quality posts to this thread alone and I'm not even close to 100.
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 6:08PM
^+1 and that goes for the double and triple and 50 and 100 guy creampies shot also.
Seems to be alot of worry about "how gay" something is in porn . lets face it , when you watch porn you are watching cocks as well , and most of us have favorite male performers . Dp's, DAP's , DPP's , Bukakke ect are all a little gay . Check out the Kinsey scale , almost no one is totally and completely hetro or homo . You have seen all the bts of what goes on at shoots , bunch of guys together naked , jerking , ect. So many of the most famous or current stars have gay or ts sex backrounds . Peter North , Marc Wallice(scumbag) ,Tom Byron , Ron Jeremy , Jamie Gillis , John Holmes from the past , heard that Brian Pumper likes T/S , Christian , ect. Just get over it , seems some people doth protest too much .
In my opinion, DAP and DPP are circus acts. I don't see why there is a demand for them. I imagine they are quite uncomfortable (probably painful!) for the woman, and awkward (to say the least) for the men. But what I can't understand is this idea that a man fucking a woman in the ass is somehow 'gay'. How is heterosexual anal 'gay'? I realise plenty of guys (and gals) are turned off by the thought of anal sex, but how could straight anal be considered gay? Odd.
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Posted - Mar 31 2009 : 3:05PM
Because pederasts are gay. Pederasts also prefer anal sex. Males who prefer anal sex with women are typically closet pederasts.
^ Well, that's all the scientific proof I needed.[/sarcasm] Bluto, I'm still waiting on info about these hundreds of studies you told us about:And as I asked several days ago, please point us to the appropriate works from Coit Blacker, as the only things I can find from him are articles and books about the Cold War.
Some guys divide the sex world into "gay sex acts" and "hetero sex acts". And ANYTHING anal is automatically categorized as gay. End of story. Not sure if they are born that way, of if it's peer group influence, outside influence, whatever. But I think it's mostly a male thing. In my experience, women who don't do anal say it's because: "it's gonna hurt", or "that's a nasty/poopy place", or "that's too special, gonna save it for my future husband." Never anything about gay.
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Posted - Mar 31 2009 : 4:59PM
Blacker frequently notes the Russian concept of gayness as mental illness and the threat of Gay Bowel Syndrome as a KGB intimidation technique in Under the Gun. He also discussed the gayness syndrome in his early days writing as Bill Coit in several California gay pubs.
^ Noting the Russian concept of gayness as a mental illness is far from considering it a mental illness himself. It also seems strange that Blacker would consider being gay a mental illness, given that he himself is openly gay. I still find nothing at all about him researching under the name "Bill Coit". A little help?
This made me laugh. hard. lol.as for the thread, i think i summed my opinion up before. it's inline with some others posts, but it's back a page or two. As for the newest thought i had...not sure if you are making a comment on this thread in general or just commenting on a related thing. this thread was about double anal. are you saying there's a thought that all man/woman anal is gay? i've never heard that before, but i don't know too much, lol. as for why people think that? i'm not sure if this is part of the anal is gay thing, but on top of the 'it looks so tight, so it might feel good to the guy', and the taboo aspects...every guy has an anus...lol, maybe a kinda awkward thing to say, but maybe it's something that adds a layer of 'i can relate to both sides'? I'm not gay, and I'm a virgin who's never gone too far beyond second base(thus a lot of porn watching lol), so i'm not experienced enough to say for sure...but that's one of the things i came up with, lol... and as for why this thread is still going...at least some people here are trying to give thought out answers... Edited by - wraithlead on 3/31/2009 9:29:51 PM
The OP pretty much pegged it, minus the homophobia editorializing. I don't know anything about all that. As for the act itself, I've seen it done in highly stimulating ways, particularly with, or specifically of late, with .. what's her name .. oh ... help me out here ... is it Winka? There's a Stoya and a Winka, yes? And one is blond and one is brunette, and both are pale-skinned and some kind of Eastern European or Russian, and if I had to share either of their anuses with another man, well, if that makes me gay, then .. fuck you. Like I care what you think.
Man........I'll tell you what. After reading some of the posts in here, I think that a few of you are quite desperate. That or you bang ugly chicks. lol! I say this because quite a few of you say "Oh if I had to DAP or DPP *insert girls name* with another guy, I'd do it in a sec." etc, etc. If you get laid regularly and by beautiful women in a one on one situation, there should be no need for you to resort to these tactics/scenarios for the sake of one girl. Unless you are Desperate or Unless what?..............Unless you like it. And if you like it.........see where I am going with this? *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
Well its official on my end. It's gay. There was a discussion in my troop(And an actual chart was made and everything.) on the ranges of straightness - gayness with about 70+ people involved. DP was about half way down the chart. DP in the same hole was like 85%. And I think rusty Trombone was the gayest. There was a lot of other shit on there but I forget what they are. It was pretty funny. Apparently an Angry Pirate is straight. I don't even know what that is. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
I would say NOT Gay if the guys are thinking in thier head "OMG i love hiving my dick rub this other guys dick" then its gay. I would very it as trying to push the limits of the girl which to me at least it awesome if she is down for that....i would say constant post about whats gay or not IS gay
I don't know if it is for the actors...but if you're sitting there watching two dudes with the camera focused on their two dicks melding into one....and you're enjoying it...Look in the mirror, you just might be -- gay.
Reading through this, a thought came to mind. Girl you're dating for a couple weeks wants to have some kinky fun. She pulls your pants off, sits you down, and ties a blindfold on. You enjoy a fantastic blowjob, and just as you're popping, she yanks off your blindfold, so you can see it's a man who was doing the deed. Are you gay? Our bodies respond to physical stimulation, be it a man, woman, or a trashbag you're fucking. Babies aren't born gay or straight (exactly) but rather they're socialized to be straight/gay/whatever. When a man's tossed in prison for twenty years, you better believe he's going to be 'socialized' to get tough, or get 'gay.' Male talent can choose not to do BBG scenes, sure. It's a quick way to leave the thought in agents, producers, and directors that "I'm a diva." Some guys are fine with that, but it does limit your career. A pretty girl walks into a bar and sits down. The well dressed fellow next to her buys her drink, and chats her up for half an hour. He then smiles, pulls his checkbook out and says "I'll write you a check for one million dollars if you'll sleep with me." She gasps, and says "yes" all flustered. He then says "ok, how about for one dollar?" She gets angry, slaps him, and loudly proclaims "what, do I look like a WHORE to you?" Man says "we've already established that you are, we're just negotiating the price. Everyone has their price. I think the advocates for "that makes you gay!" probably place too much importance on the label, with too little understanding of the complicated spectrum of human sexuality. Oh yeah, that's probably a little deep for a porn forum. Lemme try again... "hehe... hehe... he said gay.... that's gay.... " John
If it's one cock and one dildo, it's not gay. Better yet, 2 dildoes, is how I like to see it done, and you don't see this very often, unfortunately, but it has been done.
Rubbing your hard cock up and down against another dude's hard cock? It's a little bit gay...just a little bit. No judgement. But let's call it what it is. "It takes courage to enjoy it: the hardcore and gentle...Big Time Sensuality!"
Being gay means being attracted exclusively to the same sex. This "even though the guy's fucking a girl, the sex act is gay" business sounds kind of like the One drop rule. I wonder how many actual gay guys would double penetrate a girl.Whatever. I'm just in it to watch the female performer get fucked. Acts like DP/DAP/DPP strike me as more like circus acts, anyway; a spectacle of the extremes to which the female's body can be pushed. The way I see it, the guys are more like props or stuntmen. I don't think about what's stimulating them.
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 5:04AM
There have been multiple academic studies of DP's, who knew? Can you imagine balding men in tweed jackets talking about bukkake
