I see upcoming that Tony T. (whom may be the nicest guy in the world in real life but I can. not. stand. onscreen) is dong a scene with Harmony for Belladonna. Now I know Harmony doesn't do IR, so what the fuck is Tony T. that scenes with him aren't interracial scenes!?!
Tony T. is not black. I have heard more than once that he is Egyptian. Whatever his origin, he's just far enough from a true negro that die-hard IR dodgers like Harmony don't mind working with him. When questioned about it they can always say .. "OH, he's not really black" ... and "save" their reputations (heh). Nevermind that a non-insider who just glances at his dick from a boxcover could easily jump to the wrong conclusion. In their hearts they know they did not fuck a black man, so good for them.
Tony T is a cool bloke and I like him behind the Camera coz he does a great job. Many cannot stand him infront of the Camera and I'm one of those many. Yes Tony T is not IR and it shows how girls like Nikki Benz,Hanah Harper,Harmony etc must have thoroughly investigated his background first before agreeing to work with him...LOL! If he was IR they would have certainly ducked him faster than a Heart beat LOL!
Heh. Well, I'm glad to see our post-9/11 climate hasn't so damaged them that they'd refuse to bone someone of Middle Eastern descent. But it's so sad it's funny that this is still more acceptable than fucking a Black guy.
Aaaah, surprise of all surprises! All the usual suspects, lined up and ready, nay...EAGER to sound off once again on their oh-so-favorite subject! All you had to do was say their favorite word: interracial. It's like some weird homoerotic mating call for'em or something! Haven't seen messhuga or tritone around posting lately? Just start a thread with the word interracial in it and watch'em come out to play! I think they actually periodically SEARCH the board for the word! How else can two guys be so continuously Johnny-on-the-spot like this??? At any rate, I can understand one's frustration with performing with Tony T. not being considered interracial. Sure, he's not black but c'mon...Egyptian? Is that really how some girls are gonna circumvent and squirm around their own personal no-IR caveat? I know that in today's world we love to consider the country of Egypt a part of the Middle East but anyone with access to a map can clearly see that Egypt lies on the continent of Africa. But God forbid that the country that basically gave birth to the rest of civilization be inhabited by actual black people. It's this same turn-of-the-head slight that I guess allows white females who won't fuck what they consider a black man on camera to go home with a clear conscience after letting Tony T. nail'em.
I don't know WHAT Tony's racial mix really is but I do know that I'd like to rock my rocket up between Isabel Ice's fat freakin' new titties. And if I have to become a black man to do that, I'll be hitting the tanning salon EVERY day to mask my "Caucasian Curse." Thanks for the avatar, CJ ... and keeping it real for ALL THE REAL GIRLS. Any idiot knows we're all a little bit of everything. One drop! Check your history. Here's to race-mixing, fat titties, big asses, and not getting all hung up on bullshit.
He usually sort of annoys me the way he always kind of acts like thug, but he's had some good scenes, which are defined by me as when the girl seems to enjoy the sex. I remember when I recently rented 'Who's the New Girl #1' to see one of Montana Rae's first scenes, I saw him screwing her like a jack rabbit in the BTS and I thought the scene would probably suck because this extremely beautiful newbie will never be into that. It turned out to be a great scene and I soon learned that Montana Rae appears to really enjoy getting fucked hard and fast. Her best scenes are the ones where the guy really slams the meat into her. Who'da thunk it? (I sort of re-discovered M.R. a little while ago and sought out every B/G scene I could find of her. Too bad there weren't more. I don't think she did any IR either)
I remember people complaining about alexis texas not doing IR and the first thing I thought was, yeah she did Tony T, dude is not white, at first I thought he was a dark skinned latino like me but even I know my roots are in the motherland. I wish i could listen in on bookings, Is he black, no sweetie, he's from Tanzania, Is that in Africa? No sweetie just go to the shoot.
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 10:06AM
well, if he's not white... then isn't it technically interracial no matter how you slice it up? yea, it's pretty fucked up (especially in a post 9/11 world), when it's more accepted for a porn girl to fuck someone of Arabic decent before they'd fuck someone of Africa decent. why is it any worse for a girls career to fuck one and not the other? or vice versa?
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 10:12AM
Funnily enough there are Egyptians who will argue that they're not "African" even though they're on the African continent. And on the IR tag I suppose those inane anglo women just think anyone darker than X shade is Black so they won't work with them. And since Tony hasn't reached that pre-determined threshold they'll work with him. Such is the madness of racism.
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 12:38PM
And you're always RIGHT behind them, ready to argue with them. Should we accuse you of doing periodic searches for the word interracial or for their names? To hearken back to an old thread, who pissed in your bowl of Life? But we've had this argument before, and we both know where you and I arguing always leads... nowhere. So I'll continue to be offended FOR YOU, whether you give a shit or not. Next year, when I've got a girl in my booth telling one of my directors who happens to be black that she's gonna start doing IR in 2009, but she won't work with him now cause he's black (oh, but he's more than welcome to hire her to work with a white guy), I'll give you a call, and you can run your black ass over and tell Justin that he shouldn't be offended.Like it or not, people from Europe or more appropriately the MIDDLE EAST are often very particular about where their actual ancestors came from. And there was a HUGE class difference between the people who were born in Egypt, and the people who emigrated there. It's kind of like some Middle Easterners who still refer to themselves as Persian. It's an essential part of what they identify themselves as. I go along with the whole 'melting pot of the world' mentality, but despite the fact that it's 2008, I feel more and more in the minority about that lately. Edited by - tricia_devereaux on 2/1/2008 1:10:35 PM
You can if you like. I'd prefer to call it a coincidence and the title of the thread piqued my curiosity...The stupid broad who told Justin that is more than likely DONE at this point anyway and boneheaded moves like that are just a PART of the reason why. But pointing to one numbskull doesn't change my opinion. Were I Justin, I wouldn't have been offended. I was more slightly amused at her ignorance than anything else, on that subject and a variety of others. Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 2/1/2008 1:10:12 PM
i still see it as Harmony's doing interracial! its two people of different races, since when was IR just Black on White and vice versa? shes white hes not...simple you'd think
LOL. So I'm not the only one who noticed this. CJ must put in overtime into going at these ir fixated fellows. I don't understand his motivations. I just always figured he must be seeking some sort of token black friendship from the girls whose silly decisions he so ardently defends.
It's not that quite black & white (har har). In porn, interracial specifically refers to white girl/black guy (or vice versa) or at least that's how the stigma seems to be. I mean, hell, Ramon is Hispanic and I'm sure he doesn't count as being "interracial" scene-wise. Edited by - Flyboy on 2/1/2008 6:53:21 PM
"I see upcoming that Tony T. (whom may be the nicest guy in the world in real life but I can. not. stand. onscreen) is dong a scene with Harmony for Belladonna. Now I know Harmony doesn't do IR, so what the fuck is Tony T. that scenes with him aren't interracial scenes!?!" I think the bottom line is this, you can consider him as whatever you want, but good luck in having a discussion that remains in stasis. Heck (without opening a can of worms) there is even disagreement as to what "race" actually means biologically speaking, much less how to define INTERracial within the world of porn. People will use their own definitions and personally I wouldn't spend too much time discussing it. (I realize that doesn't answer your question but I'm just presenting it for your consideration in case this thread becomes super ugly) Edited by - 4theheart on 2/1/2008 7:01:42 PM
That's my bad then. I get so tired of seeing those two beat that dead horse (and believe me, I'd be sick of that behavior regardless of the subject, not just IR but that's ALL these two morons ever post about regardless of the topic) that I didn't realize I was falling into the trap of being equally as repetitive by constantly deriding them. Cool. I've said my peace and I'm done with it. But something tells me they aren't EVER going to be so I guess I'll just suffer their BS in silence. By the way, I don't need nor want anyone's "token" friendship and you've never seen me defend a girl's decision not to do IR (only that someone can be considered an excellent performer still without having done IR). What you have seen me do is get sick & tired of the same people playing the same broken record over & over & over again, whining about it every chance they get like it's going to change anything. You can't tell me that doesn't grate on your nerves after a while. It's never been an "IR" issue with me, it's always been a "please find something else to bitch about you two" issue with me. Their obsession with IR kills me. [Image not found DB]
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 8:02PM
Crucifixio- My apologies. Damn. This subject always gets me crazy wound up, and then I end up saying stuff I regret. Hell, you'd think I was black by how offended I get. And I'm about as anglo as they come. Y'all should see me try to dance some time. It's not just about porn for me though. I get really upset by intolerance in general. Plus, that stupid porn girl's ignorance was still fresh in my mind. I guess I should follow CJs lead and do my best to not comment too much on this subject for awhile.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this. As much as I tried to ignore him he just seems to come after me in threads LOL. He thinks he is Holier than thou . Now the people who had backed him in the past are now telling him to put a sock in it. Nice to see him eat some humble pie coz his attitude stinks!
The moron in this case is you. If you even bother to check at all my posts and try to calculate the percentage of my IR posts as opposed to non-IR ones you will be surprised. You will find out that most of my posts on ADT are actually non-IR related ,yes I said non-IR related. Even though I do still contribute in IR threads the percentage of my IR posts is actually lower than my non-IR ones. Having said that I will not make any apologies to you for giving a relevant opinion on the subject in this thread okay! If you don't like It then stay the Hell out of this thread you boofhead. The best way to solve your personal issues against me is to write me a bloody Email.Sadly you don't have the guts to do it.
I've never read, much less participated in one of the IR debates/discussions before so I had no idea it would set people off so. My question was very tongue-in-cheek as Tony T. is so very obviously not white I was merely curious as to what his origin was to understand what kind of twisted rationalization was going on. After all, it's not like there aren't more than a few Latino guys also cornholing girls like Harmony (whom I really do like otherwise I wouldn't bother writing this) but still immune to the IR tag.
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Posted - Feb 2 2008 : 3:19AM
I didn't know that messhuga was black before I read this thread, so I can't see him being obsessed with IR. OT, it is pretty funny if she is fucking latino and egyptian guys but not black dudes. Seems as dumb as a post to me.
I guess I just find their "BS" less offensive than the "BS" of many of the so called ir dodgers. Don't get me wrong. I think the girls have a right to be as stupid and prejudiced as they want. And I honestly wouldn't want to see a girl do ir scenes because she's been guilt tripped into doing it. That would be more of a turnoff for me, and I'd much rather watch one of the many lovelies already doing ir. So I wont be joining Meshugga and Tritone on their ir crusades. However I still feel the two of 'em are being mostly frank about what is an unpleasant topic to many. I guess I just find it odd that these dudes are called dead horse beaters/broken records, and rebuked by the mods for stating and restating their mostly correct, but unpalatable opinions.
You obviously have been checking a lot of my posts then and Yes I'm not as IR obsessed as what my Nemesis accuses me of. Thanks for stating the obvious mate.
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Posted - Feb 2 2008 : 11:33PM
Hey now. Just cause I was PMSing and basically being a cunt to a friend, doesn't mean you get to use my post as an excuse to call him a moron. And just cause I have no tolerance for narrow-minded little princesses doesn't mean that I've 'turned my back' on CJ or whatever the hell you think happened. He and I have argued about this topic since the first time it came up between us off-board. No, he doesn't kiss my ass. I actually had to lick my wounds when he basically said in the John Leslie's Brianna Love: Her Fine Sexy Self thread that John Leslie's movies suck. I think he likes MAYBE 25% of the directors at Evil Angel. For what it's worth, he wouldn't have to kiss my ass. He's one of the smartest, wittiest and honest people I have the honor of calling a friend. Y'all need to learn to ignore each other is all I have to say at this point. And you're black? I always assumed you were a redneck guy who for whatever reason enjoyed watching black guys violate little white chicks.
That's fine by me if CJ is your friend or what ever. To me he has been a complete Dick and I can only speak from my perspective. He has berated me in several threads always trying to make me look silly. As for my Race or colour let me again state that most of my threads on ADT are actually non-IR related and no I'm not obsessed with seeing Black guys Violate white chicks. I hope Its all clear now.
Given the race-related topic of this thread, I think it's an appropriate time for me to ask, "Can't we all just get along?" Yeah, I thought it was funny too.
2009? WTF? I'm sure HJ just stumbled over himself to put that in his Blackberry. Give me a damn break. I would have paid top dollar to see that humbling session. :-)
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Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 6:21PM
