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Ryan81
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491 Posts
4/06
Posted - Aug 30 2006 : 5:33AM
I'm wondering why more classics like this aren't being made. Everything about it is perfect: the girls, the sex, the sets, the props, the acting, etc. Is it simply because it costs so much and so can only be made on very rare occasions?

What I really liked about it, was the scene with Leslie and Manuel in the S/M club. Neither ever looks into the camera. In fact, they seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the camera is there and unlike many porn films, as the scene goes on, they are both glistening in sweat.

To me, I think it's better when actors are completely immersed in what they are doing and don't constantly keep looking into the camera every few seconds, almost to ask the audience:
"Is your cock still erect?"

Yankey Doodel
Member

283 Posts
11/05
Posted - Aug 30 2006 : 3:19PM
I agree, I would watch more movies like the Fashionistas too. The fact that there aren't probably has alot to do with budget, but also time and effort as well. Why put several months and so much money into something when you can make a few movies in that time for probably a fraction of the cost. Both ways have their purpose I suppose. I really appreciate that John Stagliano does it this way though, I think he's entirely a different kind of filmmaker than most pornographers today.
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14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - Aug 30 2006 : 4:35PM
Trisha would be the one to give you actually numbers, if she so chooses, of course. Certainly it was far more expensive than your average porn feature. It probably cost more than an entire year's worth of gonzo knock-offs at some other companies.

Since the movie gave Stagliano the opportunity to stage a profitable and well-received Las Vegas show he probably thinks it was worth it, regardless of the expense.

Myload
Senior Member

A rose is what you are to me
2069 Posts
6/03
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 2:01AM
I read that it cost at least $500,000 to make. I'm guessing that it's one of the most expensive porno films ever made. I've already mentioned countless times how much I love this movie. It shows that John Stagliano isn't just a pornographer, but a filmmaker.
Ryan81
Member

491 Posts
4/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 3:04AM
I agree. John Stagliano is much more than a pornographer, he's an artist and "The Fashionistas" is so much more than a porn film.

 
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 9:41AM
Let's work with the $500,000 number.

If (if) EA could get a $25/copy, that's 20,000 just to break even. If you have a candid converstation with anyone in the adult business, you'll find out that 20,000 copies is a huge number of DVDs to sell. Of course if you merely break even, you're losing money.

A more realistic number to make the endevour worthwhile would be 40,000 DVDs, or $2 gross for every dollar in the budget. That gives you some room for marketing, promotion, general overhead.

40,000 units is a mega number in the adult business, which is why the budgets for video with even the biggest stars, like Jenna Jameson, are measured in tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands, let alone the millions of dollars needed to produce "real" movies.

That doesn't mean EA hasn't or won't move 40K copies, but it's a safe bet they didn't ship 40K copies of Fashionistas on its release date. The only way you're going to hit a number like 40K is 1) have the money for the budget, and the stomach to risk it on an uncertain outcome, 2) produce something with a long shelf life, 3) have the financial where with all to let the investment mature. Most companies 1) don't have $500,000 cash, 2) couldn't make something of lasting value, 3) don't have the financial staying power needed to see an investment of that magnitute come to fruition.

More interesting to me is whether or not the budget for Fashionistas 2 is larger, smaller, or about the same as the first.

There'd be no shame in producing a lower budget, lower risk sequel to capitalize on the name, that's part of the "financial staying power" aspect of the equation. But wouldn't it be encouraging if the budget were significantly higher? That would suggest that Stagliano's investment paid handsomely, handsomely enough he felt it was worth making a bigger bet!

And wouldn't it be a rich irony if the man who should porn how to shoot video went on to show porn how to shoot film!

ma meeshka
Iconoclastic Member

3939 Posts
4/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 9:49AM
The Fashionistas 2
A Comstock Production
Ryan81
Member

491 Posts
4/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 1:00PM
When is "Fashionistas 2" meant to come out?

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 1:22PM
I can safely say that's [invalid URL removed]never going to happen.
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Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 1:35PM
release date for [invalid URL removed]Fashionistas Safado: The Challenge is 9/29. It is available for preorder.
lessthanzero
Member

89 Posts
6/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 2:38PM
I have read adverts that Fashionistas is a 4 disc set, but then I saw one that it was a 2 Disc set, and it was new and sealed.

Are there 2 and 4 disc versions, or is this seller just misinformed?

Thanks.


BTW- I really, really, hope that Jenna Haze has a b/g scene in the new Fashionistas.

Ryan81
Member

491 Posts
4/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 3:29PM
Thanks, Steph. So is this "Fashionistas 2" just under another name? The girls look very promising, although I must say I'm not a huge fan of Jenna's.

zorge
Member

278 Posts
8/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 3:35PM
They said somewhere else here that there would be 2 separate releases, this being the first, that would comprise the entire "Fashionistas 2" and it then sounded like later on all discs from both releases would be sold together. But being that this one is apparently going for 40 bucks, I'd wonder if that was still the plan.
Myload
Senior Member

A rose is what you are to me
2069 Posts
6/03
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 7:41PM
I read that the entire sequel as well as the second part will be available in January. I would personally wait until then so that I can have the whole thing in one package. Also, I read that the ending in the first part of the sequel is a cliffhanger, so that it will be necessary to see the second part to see how the story ends. This should be a candidate for movie of the year. I don't mean porno movie of the year, but movie of the year, period.
Recoil Therapy
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194 Posts
10/04
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 8:24PM
lessthanzero,

Mine is the 4 disk version but that includes 2 disks of the movie, 1 of extra features, & 1 of just the soundtrack (which is a pretty cool album all by itself). I would assume that the 2 disk version is just the movie.

RT

 
lessthanzero
Member

89 Posts
6/06
Posted - Aug 31 2006 : 10:13PM
Thanks Recoil Therapy, I'm glad I passed on it then, plus the seller was in Canada and Im in the US.

I'll look for the 4 disk edition used on ADM and ADE when the price is right.

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