So there are occasionally threads on here asking how much the going rate for sex is in the industry. However, I've always wondered how much the going rate is for ass to mouth? What are the factors that cause it to go up or down? Is it how young/new a performer is? Or how many times they are willing to do A2M in a scene? (is that actually specified in a contract?) Does third person ass to mouth command a higher premium? Additionally, is there a set uniform rate accross the industry for A2M or does each studio pay different amounts?
Finally, out of interest, what is the single most expensive scene ever filmed in hardcore gonzo? and what did the girl(s) have to do to command that sort of money?
Hmmm, ok, but how much is the going rate for Ass to mouth scenes?
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Posted - Nov 2 2005 : 8:04AM
I guess I'm just baffled by the obsession/fascination with how much is paid for a scene.
If you don't like A2M it doens't matter if the girl got paid a million, you're not going to enjoy it.
On the other hand, "Girl A does A2M" does not mean that it is going to be a great scene, or make the movie. The A2M scene could actually be the worst scene in the whole DVD.
A good scene is a good scene because the performers are into it, it is filmed/edited well, etc. The cost of the scene, or the content of the scene is a minor factor.
I think it's a valid question. Do the girls ask for more for ATM scenes up-front or is it all spontaneous where the director asks for it and the girls either do it or not?
its either something a girl does or doesn't do....if it is required for the scene, the director will make sure before he books the girl that she does ATM......if it is just a spur of the moment thing, the director asks the girl, and she either says yes or no and they move on. there is no monetary discussion whatsoever......
why is everyone so scared to give a real answer. Or is it to protect the stars on the forum. If they want to be stars and famous then they should have no problem revealing any info. We all know how much sports stars make, and their bonuses, and how much movie stars make per movie , and what tv stars get per episode. And what it costs to make thses films and tv shows (budgets) So whats the big deal? Are you lets say "embarrassed" by what you do, and what you get paid for it. Is it too little, and are your afraid we will all say "you, get paid just that for that? etc..." If thats the case get out of the business. You obviously know its not worth it then.
I'm tired of these posts asking and getting joke answers. Stop the nonsense. People want to know, they are curious, or they wouldn't be asking about a thousand times. Maybe they want to get into the business, or direct their own movie, or start a company/website.
If you wanna be a star you gotta know when to keep your mouth shut. Nobody's scared. They simply don't negotiate their contract or their payment on an open internet board.
BTW, what's your profession? And what's your income?
ATM, like other acts (ATP, PTM, Swallowing, Internals, Facials, Choking, Spitting etc.) usually doesn't pay extra - but obviously for ATM anal is required, so most likely a performer gets paid their standart anal rate which is between 800$ and 1500$ depending on the star's rate.
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Posted - Nov 3 2005 : 5:48AM
Katja's compleatly correct. You have a standard rate for the 'main' sex act, which changes between vag, then anal, then DP etc... after that rate is negotiated, girls either do or don't do things like swallow, internal, ATM & ATOGM these things don't effect the stars money, it's a personal preferance.
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Posted - Nov 3 2005 : 10:47AM
That's called bribary. Where a girl really doesn't do something, and Brandon pays extra so the girl agrees, but that's also a speciality scene. I was refering more to just swallowing at the end of a normal scene, not swalloing 75 loads in one of Brandon's scenes...
I am suprised none of those things effect the price... I would certainly think internal varies, as there is more risk involved regarding infection.
Also, if a movie has a focus of swallowing for example, then surely the star is in a much stronger position to get a higher rate even if they would usually swallow because of preference?
I find it hard to believe that people in the industry are happy to taste their ass, somebody else's ass and swallow cum for no extra money, most people's girlfriends will do none of those!
Stars say they like cum on this forum, I'm not entirely convinced. I'm all for truth, but I'm not for people masquerading.
The swallowing scenes are so expensive because every extra cum shot pays more, every extra dick the girls has to suck or touch or fuck makes extra money for her. If you involve 15 guys that all come on her, that make a good day rate.
I'm pretty sure i did the first Ass to Mouth. It was a Rosebud production back in 1995. Alex DeRenzy shot it. It was with an older(30-34)woman. I forget her name. Blonde. We didn't do alot of anal then. I told her if she shits on my dick she'll have to eat it off. And that's what happened. Renzy said it was good. He can use it 'cause it just looked like peanutbutter. I told Patick Collins the story after the shoot and he flipped out and named it Ass to Mouth and exploited the hell out of it in all his videos. True story!
We have to check with Mike Rubenstein, Cause he owned Rosebud then. And if you check with Patrick collins you'll find it's true. And by the way, she did'nt get paid any extra.
So if you'll forgive me asking, why do so many performers do A2M if they don't get paid any extra for it? Is it because a director will hire performers specifically because they are willing to do A2M? That might make sense because then A2Mers would make more because they would be able to work more, and that would be the incentive. The real question is, why dod some performers do A2M in a few scenes but not in most of their others? Is it because they liked that specific director or just felt in an adventurous mood that day?
Lastly, is there a lot of pressure on anal performers to do A2M?
Yeah, that may or may not be true. But, like I said, Patrick Collins exploited the shit out of it. That's what really got it going. Not the fact that me or Holmes did it one time.
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Posted - Nov 4 2005 : 2:21AM
For a start... I'm not 'someone's' girlfriend... I am in porn because i get off on being full of filth. Filth follows me like a shadow, and I LOVE it.... maybe I'm the only performer, (but I think not), thant sucks dick like it's the last dick on earth, and even better if it's fresh out of my ass. I love the spunk of some guys... not just a little bit, but some of the guys I work with, I spend me evenings in the UK wanking over the spunk they've given me... I never ask for more than my rate, because I find it very difficult to ask for money to do something I love. That's why I need my agent in LA... countless times slipped in a 'freebie' double anal, because I felt like it, and countless times Derek has told me off... I doubt I would have hardly any money if it wasn't for him. Here in Britain I don't have an agent, and I'm going to Milan on Monday to work for Rocco, I haven't even disscused rates. Stupid? maybe... love my job and will do anything for it... definatly, including ATM, swallowing, and all the other grossness involved. Internal doesn't vary. It's a preference. I do internals with certain male performers who I have built up a rapour with, because I like it. I don't do internals with other guys because I don't want to. Money is of no issue.
So you kind of say it right there. If a performer gives a great performance directors are going to hire her/him again. I do ATM because I don't see a problem with it. If it's the theme of the movie of course there is a lot of it - other times it doesn't happen at all. When you have sex at home you don't do exactly the same thing every time. If there is a special act that must be in the scene because it's an ATM or swallowing or cum swapping movies, the director will discuss that with the agent and then hire girls that are willing to do it. Everybody has different limits, ATM is ok for me but I don't do internals or ATP for example. I always try to be nasty in my scenes and fuck the guy silly - the weapons I use vary from time to time - whatever I feel like. There is no pressure at all, you never have to do anything you don't want to. I would say as long as a performer give good energy in the scenes most directors don't even care so much what you want to do.
You have endeared yourself to me, simply by calling your moves "weapons," and not "tools" or "tactics." I love a woman that engages in the battle of the sexes. She's so much sexier than the girl that just gives up. Keep fighting the good fight, Katja.
Seriously, I understand what you mean about certain acts not bothering you while others are intolerable. You have a higher risk of becoming ill from ATP (at least temporarily affecting your ability to work) and from internals (potential death or pregnancy) than you do from ATM. You see one as an acceptable risk and the other two as unacceptable. Perfectly understandable.
Doh! I meant that last bit to be ATM. I'll go back and edit that. I was speaking of the contamination from the anus to the vagina. The pussy has a delicate chemistry and doesn't take well to foreign bacteria. Having a man pull his dick out of your ass and insert it immediately into your vagina increases your risk of nuisance infections that can prevent you from having sex for up to a week. Saliva and digestional acids can kill a lot of icky things that might jump from a woman's ass to her mouth via a man's dick. Therefore it's lower risk than going from ass to pussy. And it's certainly lower risk than taking internal cum shots. If you take an internal in the pussy, you're at risk for pregnancy (although a low one, if you're on the Pill or some other contraceptive). If you take internal anal cumshots, you're at higher risk of contracting HIV. Of the three acts (internal, ass to pussy, and ass to mouth) ass-to-mouth is likely the safest.
Posted - Nov 1 2005 : 9:21PM
