I ask this because it's there in the Biography section on Freeones and because of this Miss Freeones contest, etc, etc. So, I'm not a big Taryn Thomas fan, and I'm not a T.T. hater, either. And I'm not a fool and not blind - I would totally do her in a New York minute. But I was shocked to find that her highest pornstar ranking ever according to Freeones is 170 and that other than that one blip on the Richter scale she never broke into the top 200, ever. Am I wrong or is/was Taryn Thomas a big time and very successful pornstar? Or did she never achieve such fame and are those rankings accurate? And then by analogy are these rankings a fairly accurate picture/portrait of the popularity (do they for example correspond to DVD sales, appearances on various subscription-based websites, various awards including but not limited to AVN, Twitter followers, Facebook Friends/Foes, and number of fans?) of pornstars? On the flip side, I look at Sophie Dee (and I know she is a superstar who has steadily risen in popularity over the years and earned her fame) and I think 'yeah, OK number 10, number 13' that seems about right.' Please help the cause... Edited by - Valentine on May 27 2012
Freeones is a rough estimate. Very rough. It's a nice resource but I wouldn't use it on it's own for anything that really matters. I guess it's probably one of the better resources though.
As far as I know those rankings are based only on the popularity on their own site, how many searches, forum discussions and such, not on any external data. The top girls are the ones who participate in the forums there themselves. Jacco
I rarely use Freeones for searches because the amount of stuff they actually have on a performer is pretty limited compared to what EBI has and the vast majority of the links for each performer are basically all for the same scenes/site so that even if there are many pages of links. The reality is that there may only be a page worth of different scenes. I've never voted for any freeone models and don't plan to join their site to do so.
Freeones rankings determine which stars' scenes I'll watch. If an actress is not in the top 200, I'll avoid a DVD with her in it, even if the other girls in the cast qualify. p.s. I'm a stupid moron.
Why is Freeones sooooooooooo much higher on the Alexa (web traffic) rankings than this site? The discussions here, and the individual and collective knowledge here, seems far greater than over there. And in Google searches of various topics this site comes up as often as that site. Is it just because they provide more clips, photos, teasers, and trailers? Edited by - Valentine on 6/1/2012 1:07:14 AM
I was going to start a topic called " International Pornstar rankings " , but it would also be heavily focused on the Freeones site , since I have not found a better resource yet . So I decided to post here instead . Curious if the landscape has changed since then , and if users prefer a more accurate ranking list than the one mentioned .
^I don't think anything significant has changed since the last time this thread was active. You still have many performers that are ranked quite high on Freeone and these are performers that are no longer active and were never all that active to begin with. Just to take one example. Katerina/Katarina Hartlova is ranked 23. This is a woman who started doing porn 12 years ago and only worked with her boyfriend. Just look at all the women that are ranked further down and tell me why she is at that number. I don't use Freeone because I honestly don't care what the ranking of a performer is and I think there are better sources for info on performers. I prefer Porn Teen Girl, EBI, IAFD and this forum because ultimately it's not their ranking that interest me but who are they and where can I find their work.
I mostly use Indexxx when I have one of the names of a (possible) performer but can't find any info about her on my usual sites because they tend to keep track of all the names a performer has used and/or they keep better track of softcore models. I used to visit "data18" but realised that they only bothered to keep track of a very small amount of sites and their tagging system left a lot to be desired. These day's Porn Teen Girl or EBI or ADT will be a superior source of info on new or estabslied performers.
Ok , now to the practical application ( for ex , checking out how the ranking of my fav girls is progressing ) : This was one of the purposes of the thread I wanted to create . If it doesn´t fit here , then I´ll move these posts to another topic . Take Antonia Sainz from Czech R , who is on today´s front page of the top 100 , rank 79 . Not so popular here , but at the EBI forum she is . She is not among my absolute favourites , but in the broader field of women who have caught my interest . I hope she keeps her high profile and will do soon some soft lez threesome ( no toys ) hopefully with foot emphasis , some BGG with triple-kissing , and most importantly graduate from Dp ( already done ) to a Dp-Gangbang scene . I hope that her high rank helps her to get even more exposure , and that eventually she will make some of these scenes .
In my opinion... FreeOnes is a great resource for companies / directors / producers to find popular models... but sadly, that doesn't always equal sales for them. More times that not, the more popular the model - the faster her scene is pirated. It's sad... I wish there was a resource similar but packed with qualified, paying customers... not freeloaders. - Ivy Bleu IVY BLEU DOT COM
^ Happy to see a response from a performer , Ivy . Btw , you look amazing ! How is it that you are not promoting your scenes on this forum with a thread on your own ( could not find any ...) ?
I am happy to see that Kendra Spade , one of my top fav models , has jumped more than 1000 ranks and is now standing at rank 4342 . Fun fact for me : another fav model of mine : Daisy Stone was ranked 4347 last week ( 5 ranks away from Kendra theoretically ! ) , but she was thrown back to rank 4994 this week .... Compare that to Kendra´s thread at ADT : 2 pages only ( thread started Oct 2017 ) Daisy´s thread : 8 pages ! ( started Apr 2017 ) Ok , Daisy is much more popular here , but I really hope that Kendra will get the attention she deserves . If it were for me , I would like them to see enter the top 2000 one day ( top 100 or 500 seems unrealistic unfortunately ) . Well , Antonia Sainz is good looking and is in the top 100 , but I don´t think she can top Kendra in any aspect .... Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 9/1/2018 8:09:38 AM
Happy to see ebony Daizy Cooper at rank 398 , which is very high . Compare that to busty ebony Nia Nacci , currently on 406 ! Maybe Daizy got a boost bcuz of being on the Cover of a major anal movie release ? The threads on ADT of both of them were started last year . Needless to say that I would like to see single-paged Daizy´s thread catch up Nia´s , who has deservedly 8 pages . ------ Amazed by the race that big-assed Floridenha Julz Gotti is doing : from 7000´s in last week she went to 2923 today ! I don´t see it reflected in her thread , which needs more love . ------- It seems that Abigail Mac has got a tremenduous boost by publishing her first Dp in the last days . Now currently on rk 2 ! Interesting for me , cuz that was the rank that Ashley Adams had last week . Ok , so the only solution to get back to rk 2 for Ashley is to finally step up and do some serious Gangbang action ! Triple Blowjob + Dp while her feet are getting sucked would be a good starter . --------- Serbian bootylicious star Nina Kayy is very highly ranked on 499 . Compare that to Coco de Mal who is on 1317 currently . Now Nina´s thread is much more active than Coco´s , but this probably has to do with the fact that Nina is living in the States . Just wanted to add that on another forum Coco is one of the most popular babes since many years , with a thread of more than 45 pages .
Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 9/2/2018 6:33:38 PM
Vienna Black , Dominican-Brazilian , on 857 is ranked quite high . She is quite near to Sybil A from Ukraine on 784 . Vienna´s thread only has 1 page , while Sybil´s has 2 . Compared to their high rankings , I would have expected 4 o 5 pages instead . Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 9/4/2018 12:58:28 AM
___________Neo-Granadinian edition: Andreina de Luxe : rank 6187 ---- thread on ADT : 1 page ( less than 15 posts ) Amaranta Hank : rk 10325 --------- thread : 1 page ( less than 10 posts ) Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 9/7/2018 2:06:04 AM
Uma Jolie is part of the Zenith : deservedly on rank 79 --- thread on ADT : 12 p
_________________ Ukrainian edition : Veronica Clark : rk 5963 ---- no thread on ADT Shrima Malati : rk 8103 --- thread on ADT : 1 p ): Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 9/30/2018 1:45:00 PM
_____________Russian edition Candy Alexa : rank 82 ( extremely high ) - 1 page on ADT Gina Gerson : rk 228 ( very high ) - 2 p on ADT Evelina Darling : rk 363 ( very high ) - 1 p Julia Red : rk 11651 ( low ) - 1 p
_______________ Romanian Edition : Alyssia Kent : rk 10646 ( low ) Valeria Borghese : rank 17641 ( quite low ) Nelly Kent : rk 22395 ( very low ) Amina Danger : rk 22818 ( very low ) --- Each one of them has only 1 page on ADT . Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 10/11/2018 4:19:16 AM
None. If I like a woman I'll watch her period. Just because they're ranked high doesn't mean they are suited to your preference/taste as everyone likes differently. Edited by - SteveX on 10/10/2018 4:39:20 AM
Currently revising how the ethnicity percentages at Freeo correspond to my own .
Well , I never did it before , but since I am trying to get more Asians at my favourite site(s) [ sometimes together with fellow forum users ] , I am rather saddened by the fact that Asians are not as popular as it seems . I would like to have 1/3 of all scenes done by Asian models , but I see that this is too much for most users . However , I would have thought that the popularity range lies between 5-15 % , but even this quota is not reached by the meager ranking results at Freeo .
Somehow I had the impression that Asians would be much more popular , specially since some years ago Asia Carrera , Tera Patrick , Katsumi and Asa Akira were all over the place and often got the highest awards . Either that was a false impression , or times have changed .
None at all. I rely on my own judgement to determine who I like based on a performer's looks and personality.
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Anissa Kate - rank 14 ( legend ) Liz Jordan - rk 25 Vanna Bardot - 37 ( on the way to the absolute top ) Angel Youngs - 46 ( got high rk in a relatively short time ) Jade Kimiko - 84 ( surprise ) Eliza Ibarra - 98 ( deserves higher rk ) Rebel Rhyder - 136 Serena Santos 241 ( getting there ! ) Kimmy Kimm - 255 ( happy for her ) Lexi Luna - 347 ( deserved ) Haley Spades - 353 Madison Wilde - 395 Clara Trinity - 460 ( more potential ) Little Caprice - 481 ( almost a legend ) Sonya Blaze - 1.192 Nuria Millan - 6.688 ( unrecognized ) Sarah Lace - 1.138 ( underrated ) Lena Coxx - 7.671 ( sometimes too extreme ) Lily Starfire - 2.182 Little Chloe - 25.347 ( too repetitive scenes )
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Anais Hayek unfortunately is not included ( yet ? ) , but she is already at Pornteengirl , Indexxx and Babepedia . ( no rankings there ...) Similarly : Camila Cooper, Sussy Sweet
I don't put any stock in the Freeones ratings at all. I presume those simply reflect people searching for a model. I really have no idea how they are calculated. For all I know, people can vote. For me, the models I like is highly subjective, and I'm certain that's the same for everyone else. I have a few favourites who aren't necessarily popular, and if they don't score well on Freeones, that's no worry of mine.
I am aware of the fact that the ratings are tilted by the community of their forum-users. As a result there might be lots of biases . However I think that the rankings are 60 - 75 % accurate and rather represent today´s state of popularity. ( Forget some long retired models who will simply not go away from the top 100... ).
For example : Anissa Kate , Eli Ibarra , Liz Jordan , Vanna Bardot , Valentina Nappi , Angela White , Chloe Amour are currently in the top 100, as expected. They shouldn´t be too far away from there, otherwise it would strike me as not up to date.
The " B-graders " fnd their their place between 500-1000 ( Just putting a label , no offence : Some of my favs are B-graders , others even F-graders etc...) Whereas newbies oscillate somewhere between 25.000 and 8.000 and might climb upwards if they get a reasonable fanbase and sufficient exposure; or they might get stuck there with bad luck or bad career decisions.
All in all , it works me , I can dissect the valuable from the superfluous : It´s fun and informative.
As a counterbalance I have tried to compare Freeones´rankings to another ranking site , but this endeavour is accompanied by administrative difficulties.
^ I think we're saying different things. I agree with you that the ratings at Freeones accurately reflect a model's popularity. I took a look and noted that the rankings aren't based on votes, so I presume that they are based on searches. That makes sense, and it does make the rankings a bit more objective.
The way I answered the question was to say that I'm not influenced by those rankings at all. If a model is ranked in the Top 10 who is not a type I usually follow, then her being in the Top 10 won't change that. If a model I like is #10,000, that won't affect my interest in her. But I can see how those rankings can give some useful information - it tracks overall popularity and that's a good indicator of who is, well, popular.
When it comes to being influenced in any way, I'm more influenced by ADT threads than anything else. You particularly do great work in creating threads for new models. I always scan those and when it's a model who fits what I like, I'll usually bookmark the thread and keep an eye on it. I'll also search her out on Freeones and Indexxx for a listing of sites where she has scenes.
The bottom line for me being influenced is that you ADT generally, and you particularly, play a much bigger role than any other source. I always look forward to your new threads in the Star Crossed forum. Thanks for all that effort.