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| more_cowbell Member 162 Posts 2/12 |  Posted - May 10 2012 : 11:50PMAnyone know? Most white guys would never admit to liking it but I always notice IR movies listed on top seller list.  [Link] |
| Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 11 2012 : 12:18AM My best guess is whatever sells will be produced. If the item does not sell, it will not be produced. The Porn industry is first about making money, everything else is secondary. Don't ask me why, but the classification of scenes refers to interracial in this matter, exclusively White and Black together. And yes, I think it is popular, not my taste but obviously appeals to some.  [Link] |
| whoremonger Member 248 Posts 2/04 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 2:44PM [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 3:40PM I have a way to roughly measure a performer I had some girls who handled (pun intended) my dick so I have had a visual of some female hands on my stuff , it is roughly two hands and one (or two depending on the girl) fingers long if you put them all around it one upon the other , so I pay attention to the hands of the female performer on the shaft of the stud thus I have a good comparison with mine. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 3:43PM [Link] |
| whaletails Member 48 Posts 9/12 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 3:57PM [Link] |
| neiljward Member 19 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 4:46PM Well its popular in my house. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 5:21PM Though I will say some of them are terrible performers with wood issues and just get a pass because they have huge cocks (even if they never get hard) [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 8:53PM I enjoy IR porn myself,and it nice to watching something different for a change because I get to bored regular porn or you called it white porn. I don't mind the stereotype theme in IR porn ,btw what happen to those Hush Hush Blackzilla movies because they were my favorites? [Link] |
| Big ALbert Member I would like to fuck my avatar 55 Posts 8/12 | Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 9:03PM [Link] |
| MichelleJ Member 62 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 3:40AM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 3:46AM [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 8:13AM I enjoy watching IR porn because I love watching black, asian and latina women, and other women of color. I have been watching IR porn since its inception in the 80s because it also marked the inception of including a significant number women of color in porn. However, though the stereotyping can be entertaining, what is repugnant is the treatment of women of color in the industry with pratices such as limiting women of color to IR niche work and for the few mainstream oppurtunities available, paying women of color lower rates for the same work. [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 9:04AM IR porn seems to be a strong seller overall in porn. I think it's because it has a diverse audience watching it who are fans of it for various reasons. Some fans like it because they're black and prefer watching someone like them having sex. Some because they like seeing well endowed males with women. Some because they see it as a sort of "taboo" thing. Some just have a fetish for seing IR. Some because they enjoy seeing a woman "degraded" (in their mind) by a black male (or big penis). And of course there are those who don't care what color the guy is as long as the girl is a fav or is considered hot. Some people seem to have strong opinions of what IR sex should or shouldn't be and the way it should be portrayed. I tend to think there is no right or wrong way to portray IR situations because as long as the performers are okay with it what they are doing on screen and people realize it's all pretend. Porn is about fetishes/fantasies and I think it's wrong for some people to think their fetish/fanstay is okay but someon else's isn't and should go away because they don't personally like it. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 10:23AM I prefer passion over trashing a woman I like lust either , the degrading thing isn't for me , of course it's me. I had some of Blackburn's Black Cheerleader Search, hot girls hot stuff [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 10:45AM Strangely though, this doesn't seem that popular in the IR field. I don't really understand why. [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 11:39AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 12:02PM I don't know but all the female performers in this movie are Asians and are all tagged as IR http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=asian+brotha+lovers+3/year=2006/asian-brotha-lovers-3.htm Though Japanese Marika/Marica Hase is the only one not tagged IR here: http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=how+to+train+a+delinquent+teen+2/year=2012/how-to-train-a-delinquent-teen-2.htm But again Asian Cindy Starfall is: http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=mandingo+massacre+5/year=2012/mandingo-massacre-5.htm French-Vietnamese Katsuni has been tagged IR in 29 movies: http://www.iafd.com/person.asp?perfid=Katsuni&gender=f Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/5/2012 12:03:07 PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 12:54PM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 1:42PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 2:09PM You will not find Black/Asian couplings routinely marked as "IR" by the IAFD. It might be worth a post in the IAFD Forum to see if they have changed their IR policy (as the last time it was discussed, it clearly was Black with White gets tagged as IR). Edited by - Goldstein on 9/5/2012 2:15:22 PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 2:55PM that topic was of 2006 maybe something changed , Tia Ling's scenes with blacks are tagged IR same as Katsumi I checked out Slut Momo a japanese Amateur with a white Cuckold and sloppy second husband who only fucks black guys and even though she only did IR (with the exception of a couple Lez movies) some movies aren't tagged as such but all the remaining are including some of 2005 so I don't know note that the Japanese in their movies tag as iR when a Japanese fucks a black man , not when they fuck whites [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 4:02PM IR is very popular just look at all the companies producing it. They are not stupid they would not continue producing if it didn't sell. And just to be crystal clear IR here means black men/white women. The other variants like white men/black women, black men/asian women, and so on sell some but nowhere near as much as black men/white women. Add to that the overwhelming majority of consumers for this porn are white men. So let's cut the bullshit here. Let's face it white guys love watching white girls get defiled by big black cock. After decades of watching vanilla white-on-white porn white guys got bored. So you see other more extreme, fringe, or taboo types of porn become more popular like IR, transsexuals, rough sex, bukkake, gangbangs, and so on. If you could legally sell bestiality porn in U.S. that would be selling big also. [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 4:29PM I agree with you that type of IR sell more, I don't care who the color the guy is as long the girl is hot to watch. I here rumor if it true that the white woman get paid more to do there 1st scene with a black man. Now I bet you that Alexis Ford, Kagney Linn Karter, Jessie Rogers, and Jenna Haze got a big pay day for that scene. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 5:17PM Also the majority of one thing doesn't mean that it is the only meaning of that thing otherwise we should say that American means WASP , in most cases IR means BM/WF but it is not the only meaning and no I don't love seeing girls trashed I prefere 100 times those flick made by LT rather than those of dogfart although even at dogfart the girls weren't always trashed , Spring Thomas wasn't , Ruth Blackwell was in control either same for Barbie Cummings and Katie Thomas actually was quite the contrary with them using black guys for their own lust. The Interracial Pickups isn't abusing nor is Black on Cougars the Watching My Daughter go Black , watching my Mother go Black or the Cuckold Sessions although not abusing have a victim in them the shocked parent , the shocked son or the humiliated husband but the sex with the woman isn't abusing Candy Monroe depict a cuckold though, In the glory hole there are girls driven by lust and desire so it isn't true that this many people actually want to see girls trashed, humiliated and abused , Even black on blondes wasn't abusing at first , showed mostly lust. The abusing thing is a recent develop and is raising as much as BDSM is but it is a different kind of sex Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/5/2012 5:19:20 PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 6:10PM As long if that type of IR with cuckold, and stereotype theme sell then they will make more of those movies. It's called supply and demand. Edited by - Infamous on 9/5/2012 6:25:26 PM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 8:49PM [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 9:18PM Yes "some" female stars get more money for doing IR but those are typically the big name stars or typically former contract stars that went out of their way to avoid doing IR scenes. I've seen several interviews where girls said they were taught to avoid doing IR as a career move so later after they start to lose popularity or lose their contract they can do IR to keep their fee up or charge more. Good examples of this were Julia Ann and Jenna Haze. But that strategy is losing favor I believe for few reasons. A company will probably pay more money in order to market some star's first IR scene. But after the first two or three IR scenes they lose that "shock value". Lot of Vivid girls used this trick (e.g. Janine, Savannah Sampson, and others in the Blackmaled movies). Problem is what do you do after that? Bukkake, gangbang, etc. Also the economy has pushed down rates. You cannot make as much money as you used to just doing boring vanilla scenes. Regardless there is a market for IR and fans want to see big name stars do IR. Lot of over-the-hill stars revived their fading careers by doing IR scenes. Best examples are Lisa Ann, Julia Ann, and Francesca Le who came back doing lot of IR scenes. They are now much more popular than when they were contract girls during the 90s. Then there is the Speigler girl strategy. They say fuck all those games and just go for it. Instead of going the contract girl route they build a name for themselves by doing the nasty stuff fans want to see. They come out the box doing IR, DPs, anal, etc. And fans love them for it. They probably make more money on average than the contract girls because they don't have to use some gimmick to keep their rate up. They are also not tied to a particular company. The only issue is that everyone will want them to do IR, DP, anal for them also but they don't care its not a big deal to them. [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 9:18PM And speaking of cuckold...I'd be curious to find out which type of cuckold scene more people are into (for those who care) because they aren't all the same. You have one type of cuckold where the husband is humiliated by his wife having sex with another guy (black guys for this conversation) and is forced to watch. Another type where the guy is totally into his wife being banged by another guy and sits there watching intently and even encourages them. Then you have the type of cuckold movies where the guy is into it to the point of joining in on the sex to a certain degree. The only one I have any feelings for one way or the other is the one where the husband joins in. I sometimes find those annoying because the husband just seems to get in the way and is distracting. The husband is sometimes kinda, sorta, not really, in a way, having sex with the wife (and almost the guy) and it's distarcting, and odd because it's usually those same 3 or 4 guys and they all have a sorta oddness about them. That plus the fact that I'm not crazy about seeing them interacting with a guy like they do. [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 9:41PM I don't think any of them "revived" their careers by doing or doing more IR. I think they were able to get gigs they wouldn't have if they didn't and expanded their fanbase by doing it but I don't think it's the thing that allowed them to stay in the game or re-enter it. I would say their increased popularity has more to do with them (particularly Lisa and Julia) shooting for various studios where they would be more visable and gather a wider variety of fans instead of being in the box of simply working for one studio.I think the number of performers taking this route has and will continue to increase. The old ways of thinking in porn clearly don't apply these days and the few who still hold on to it are fewer and fewer. There doesn't seem to be as many people still trying to follow that outdated "contract girl", "Jenna Jameson" blueprint for porn stardom or a strong porn career. I still think pacing is important to a degree with certain sex acts and maybe even IR but I think it's a mistake for a girl to try and hold out on most of this stuff for years like some have done in the past. It's a different porn world now. [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 11:53PM [Link] |
| Perv Griffin Member 75 Posts 8/12 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 12:33AM Love always, Perv [Link] |
| ass_clown Member 42 Posts 5/12 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 12:50AM [Link] |
| ass_clown Member 42 Posts 5/12 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 1:01AM Edited by - Ass_Clown on 9/6/2012 1:06:36 AM [Link] |
| urthoughts Deactivated User it takes a real wolf to expose true sheep 2600 Posts 7/12 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 2:29AM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 7:07AM [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 7:19PM I've got a couple of half-arsed, self-generated theories just sitting here, but as I kind of try and weigh up the factors it just comes across as mind-bogglingly complex. Did you actually reach a conclusion at all? [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 7:33PM Yeah, kinda. The "why?" I definitely answered and demonstrated. The "is this problematic?" got really complex. [Link] |
| Digital Lust Self-removed All truth is parallel; All truth is untrue 768 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 10:30PM Although, I will admit that I am embarrassed to talk about my IR fetish among friends in real life. One of my buddies is black and he's dating a smokin' long-legged blonde and I've been very tempted lately to ask him if I can watch him fuck her. He has in the past showed me nudes of her on his cell phone but I think this might be too big of a leap. :-( Edited by - digital lust on 9/8/2012 9:57:29 PM [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 11:45PM Regarding black female pornstars who refuse to do white guys .. I can't really think of any but I do recall seeing some BTS interviews where black girls said they preferred not to do white guys. But they were not big name black girls and it was rare. There are far more white girls who won't do black guys (at least in the beginning of their careers) and I'm sure its their agents or contract company telling them to do that but a few from really redneck states might be worried about what their family would say. I have seen so many interviews with white females saying they would never do IR and then couple year later they are not only doing blacks guys they are doing DPs and gangbangs. It's so funny. But like I said the Speigler girls are destroying that strategy. Look at most popular pornstars for the past years and how many of them were Speigler girls vs LA Direct Models. There are some black girls who became big stars doing mostly IR with white guys like Jada Fire and Marie Luv. In fact I think if Marie Luv had not done white guys she would have never gotten so big because she's not that attractive to me. Of course both of them also did a lot of wild nasty scenes like squirting and DPs. IMHO not enough black girls do DPs and gangbangs. But like I said black men/white women sells much more. Regarding the IR cuckold thing ... I think its a very small niche myself. The cuckold male is typically implied as being weak submissive and gay or bisexual. Most of the actors playing the cuckold in those movies are gay. I think in real life most cuckold men are closet homosexuals who are really turned on by watching the guy. Just my 2 cents. [Link] |
| Big ALbert Member I would like to fuck my avatar 55 Posts 8/12 | Posted - Sep 7 2012 : 3:07AM [Link] |
| urthoughts Deactivated User it takes a real wolf to expose true sheep 2600 Posts 7/12 | Posted - Sep 7 2012 : 3:14AM [Link] |
| tanker0031 Member 10 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Oct 12 2012 : 3:03PM It has NOTHING to do with rasicm or any other shit, but i simply don't like it. Porn is fantasy, you compare you're private life with what you see on the film, i don' t get turned on from black guys fucking blond girls. Asked it around with my friends and they've got the same opinion, it doesn't fit in their fantasy. You also never see black women fucked by white guys, why is that ? There aren't avlot of famous black female pornstars if you compare it to the men. [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Oct 12 2012 : 8:10PM I'm white and enjoy IR porn myself, porn is just porn to me no matter who the color the guy is. I'm not into G/G, Tranny, or Gay porn or ever movies from softcore Wicked because I choice not to watch them. Some people don't ever like anal movies but love to watch IR or G/G. Not famous black female, well here are an list... Skin Diamond Jade Fire Heather Hunter Those are big names btw, why you post on something that you don't like, if you don't like IR then don't watch it but don't make it bad for people who enjoy something that you don't like. [Link] |
| EthanConner Member 319 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 11:18AM Most white pornstars treat black women like perfect little angels during sex. And the few that DO do degradation type porn with them is still NOTHING compared to the cuckold porn where black men take it waaaaaaay too far and that white men would NEVER do to a woman they like enough to fuck. There's a difference between slut play and treating a girl like a total piece of PURE shit. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 12:49PM All white. [Link] |
| ControlFreak Member At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 2:54PM Interracial > caucasian girls yields 4757 results. Age > teens yields 8929 Age > MILF yields 4333 Group Sex > Gangbang yields 2229 Oral > blowjobs yields 4148 Gonzo > Big Tits yields 3962  :D[Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 6:24PM If there aren't enough Black guys fucking White girls for you in today's porn market, you might just be incapable of being satisfied. There definitely aren't enough White guy/Black girl scenes for me. YES, I'm a White guy who "ADMITS" loving WM/BF porn. As I've said many times before, guys "care" about the color of the guy's (i.e. prefer males of their own race), and couldn't care less about the female's race, for girls they find attractive. Bottom line: Attractive quality performers is what matters. [Link] |
| ControlFreak Member At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 7:02PM Actually, people don't complain about there not being enough black guys fucking white girls, they complain that there aren't enough white girls fucking black guys. Up until recently poeple complained that the same handfull of girls were doing all the IR and the hottest girls weren't. Difference being, to give some hyperbolic examples to illustrate, if out of the 4700 IR scenes on hotmovies only 20 white girls were doing them at 235 scenes a piece, that wouldn't be good. But if there were only 3000 IR scenes with 300 white girls doing them at 10 apiece, that would be much better. [Link] |
| Katvena Member Rocco & Nacho are the KINGS OF HARDCORE and yes I am a Red Blooded WOMAN 402 Posts 8/12 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 7:16PM [Link] |
| EthanConner Member 319 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Oct 13 2012 : 7:53PM Khan Tusion does slut play. He never takes it TOO far. Facial Abuse and Ghetto Gaggers never take it TOO far. And Facial Abuse is mostly a white girl cast. [Link] |
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