There always question from horny ugly guys like myself about how to get into porn well the truth is unless you know an in demand girl who will only work with you your chances are practically impossible. well I figured out away and will be rewarded for my labor at this yrs AVN convention. YOu have to produce your own POV content,now I know your saying this cost alot of money,but I was able to do this with an extra part time job at a call center for 9.50 hr which came out to 400 every 2 weeks,800 a month. an average bj scene is like 150-300 for talent and a B/G scene runs 800-1200. so every month i saved up enough to hire a girl for one B/G scene,or 3-4 pov bj scene. My first 2 paychecks, I had to buy cameras and lighting. lighting was 600 from lowels and Sony VX2000 camera was 1,000. I booked a local hotel and shot two amateur models.One milf and one 22 yr old for 750 each in Chicago. This was fun,but I pretty much just did this for practice and to have some content to show when I try to book more professional talent in Vegas,LA or Florida. I booked two busty wellknown xxx stars for vegas at AVN,and only one of them ask to see some the stuff,I had shot to make sure I was legit, then she said forget it and just checked AIM,and agreed to do it as long as I payed her cash. These scenes are costing me 900 each and I have about 4800 saved up,which some of is going to travel cost. Im trying to book 1 more scene as well,but it might not happen. so for just a few hours at a low wage job an ugly average joe like me will be pounding away doggystyle with one of my favorite milf pornstars with camera in hand and you can to. I would like to thank all creepy ugly pornographers for inspiring me like rodney moore lol
well I'm not really trying to make money. just wanna be in the in the industry, when I feel my quality is good enough to sell once I get them camera angles and lighting right. I will just post samples on tube sites with 2257 regulations, and just email random producers,offering them low to wholesale prices for the content. You can also just upload your stuff to the clips4 sale or c4slive store,and they will split it with you. rude.com also lets anybody sell clips Edited by - tbetts12 on 1/1/2011 7:46:03 PM
Not trying to make money? Lotsa folks post their sexual encounters at edit. Join the crowd. [mod edit: name of tube site removed. We don't need to advertise for them. Thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/1/2011 10:53:24 PM
is i really dont care about a profit jt wanna be in the industry. if I can break even or just dont losse alot of money. Im happy just getting with some hott well known stars as payment enough,cant really do that with edit lol [mod edit: name of tube site removed. We don't need to advertise for them. Thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/1/2011 10:52:37 PM
And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09
Posted - Jan 1 2011 : 8:35PM
^Why not just hire the pornstars that escort for an afternoon of fun? Same result, less hassle and expense (plus, you could enjoy the moment opposed to fucking around trying to get clear camera angles etc.)
well one that is illegal. alot of times escorts give crappy performance,because they really dpny respect the johns. There are also alot of girls who dont escort ,and I want access to them. plus the fantasy is just much better this way. plus alot of girls escort rates are around 1500 where i can get a scene for 1,000,and not be as time constraint.
And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09
Posted - Jan 1 2011 : 9:28PM
^Okay. It was just a thought anyway. In all honesty, it just seems like a very expensive hobby with little-to-no chance of financial comeback in order to make a business. Not sure how long that can last...
HOw is your body? maybe you can build it up, men with hot bodies are always a plus. There are plenty of not-so-attractive guys working in porn anyway. Not sure how you look, perhaps you're just a little hard on yourself? (we can be our own worst critics) . . .
Do you need any special license? Is it illegal to film in hotels without a permit? If so, it is no different than banging a stripper or escort. At $900.00 per scene, how many hours do you get? Are the $900.00 per scene for well know porn actresses? How much for newbies? $300.00?? Do you get multiple pops? Where do you go about booking them? Talent agent websites or direct e-mails? Most escorts who are equally attractive as porn actresses charge about $150.00 per hour, would it be easier to just get your fun without a camera with strippers & escorts? I have banged many 21 year old strippers for $100.00 per hour inside of strip clubs. I need to find a pen camera to record my fun next time. If you fly outside of the country, you can bang a girl for 24 hours for $100.00, but the airplane ticket will cost your about $500.00 plus hotel. I have had my shares of $20.00 per girl for 20 days straight in third world countries. I have had more partners than some of the strippers than I have banged in strip clubs. For escorts, you can always read their reviews before you book them to determine if it is the type of girl you are interested in. Myself, I prefer banging young fresh 21 year strippers in strip club as I am being watch & heard.
tbetts12, Hopefully the female talent you hired shows up and dosen't flake-out. No call / no shows do happen in the industry too. Hopefully the girl is having a good day and performs well on camera. Even in the world of pro shot porn I've seen bad scenes with established girls. P.O.V. scenes always seem like alot of work and a struggle for the male performer. You can only use one hand to grab the girl and have to constantly keep your eyes on the camera while having sex. In spite of these obstacles, good luck. Please keep us informed of your progress in the adult industry.
Don't assume that just because you have a camera in your hand that what you're doing is legal. The entire POV shoot is very questionable from a legal standpoint. Shooting porn in Las Vegas or Florida isn't legal either. If legal/illegal is important to you, contact a porn attorney and understand the case law. My understanding is what you're doing is illegal. That doesn't mean you'll get arrested, but it does mean you're have more risk than you think. Google Freeman vs State of California, or just read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_v._Freeman for starters.
The legality of shooting in Vegas, as far my research goes it is illegal. but the cops are just going to turn a blind eye to it. Plenty of producers shoot during convention time,plus I plan on shooting in LA over the summer where I know its legal. I usually find girls on porn cummunityy sites and get there emails. note these are like B level pornstars, not top of the line, but girls who were A level two years go, could be B-level the next yr because girls burn out fast. As far as escorts go, I went on eros and erotic review and all the hot escorts caherge between 500-1500 per hr only girls who charge like a 100-200 are ugly chicks off craigslist, plus I just want to be in porn,because in porn I can just look at a girls video and evaluate her skills,wrather than just relying on reviews. plus Im in mid 20's so I can bang 20 yr old for free so I have no intrest in escorts. I just wanna bang pornstars on camera.
I think it's a cool thing you're trying to do. I'm trying to do something similar, except I sell my content as quickly as possible. I don't want to sound harsh or critical, but if you're not making a profit, you're not actually part of the industry, you're just some dude who films himself banging escorts. And I say good on ya for doing it, you've done more to realise your fantasies than most would ever dare, and I find it pretty inspiring. My guess is you could get some of your scenes posted up on clips4sale and be making a lot more than your part time job is paying you. You need to be making money off your adventures. This seems like a real "everyman's fantasy" being lived out by you, a perfect mix of what a lot of dudes would like to do meets an almost reality TV type of deal. I think you could really be successful with it, and I wish you the best of luck. Now, you need to apply yourself to the task of getting paid as hard as did just trying to get some porn shot, and You'll have it made in the shade.
no im trying to make a profit Im just saying if I dont I will still be a happy man,and I already know about uploading my stuff on clips4sale,but I dont feel the quality is good enough with the videos Ive already shot.plus none of the girls Ive shot are escorts. Im just in the building up content stage. Edited by - tbetts12 on 1/2/2011 12:33:14 PM
@raybbaby Can you tell me a little about your operation or journey to an adult producer? How much to you pay the porn actress? How much do you sell your scene for on clip4sale or Homegrown Videos? How long does it take to recoup your budget? How many hour does it take to film a scene? Do you have a permit to film porn scenes? Do you have a link or CV to your content? @tbetts12You must not be ugly then. I guess you were too hard on yourself. Can you post a link to some of your works? If you can revealed the porn actress pictures or names without getting in trouble or post some pictures, which actresses have you filmed? How long does it take for you to film? Did you have trouble getting wood? What happen if you cum early? Do you have a stunt cock or just wait? I am interested in filming a 2 hours film with just one porn actress with multiple scenes on one DVD like how the Japanese Adult Videos feature one porn actress in multiple scenes on DVD, but for my personal use only, since I have a professional job.
Im not shooting for personal use,because there is a smaller list of girls who will shoot for personal use. if you shoot pov your face will not be in movie if your worried about your job. As far as shooting 1 hour of shooting should be able to get you a decent 20 minute scene. if you want to take photo stills it might take you 2 hours. I have no problem getting wood Im in my 20's and its just me and the girl. I havent worked with any stars yet,Ive shot two regular everday girls so far, and I have two midlevel gonzo stars scheduled for next week. I have two scenes shot,but not finished editing,because I work 2 jobs.
If you hired a porn actress for $900.00 per 20 minute scene which requires 1 hour of shooting, then the porn actress is charging $900.00 per hour correct? Wow, is it a lot of money per hour. I do not have a problem getting wood, but if I do cum early, which will take more time to shoot to wait & get wood again, will it cost extra for the porn actress? At $500.00-$900.00 for one hour to shoot one 20 minute scene, the porn actress is making more money than your average escort stripper/escort. When you negotiate the price, is it per hour of shooting or per scene? I would like to shoot for many times of fetish scenes lasting 20 minutes each like dirty talk scenes, hand job only scenes, blow job only scenes, jerk off encouragement scenes, titty job scene, etc. This could last 8 hours of shooting for 4 scenes. I would love to see the behind scenes of meeting, booking, filming, editing of scenes if possible. Edited by - adultporn on 1/2/2011 2:04:57 PM
I do it per scene and it seems like most girls go per scene as well. but I do see other studios going per hour. As far as the escort comparison yes they get paid more per hour,but there will be more escort jobs than porn jobs avaliable,also an escort can leave her biz andreturn to everyday life where for a pornstar its a little harder,because you gotta worry about somebody seeing the vidz. and bj or solo scene should only run you 300,for most chicks. also I just pay per scene and tell the girl I should take no longer than 2hrs to shoot just in case the battery goes dead or somethIng. I shoot about an hour or 2 worth of footage and edited down into 15-30 min scenes on my computer,becasue you gotta edit out all the breaks and position changes Edited by - tbetts12 on 1/2/2011 2:59:18 PM
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Posted - Jan 3 2011 : 10:33AM
Talk about overinflated claims of the term "Pornstar"
So it seems like you can bang pornstars cheaper when you're filming them than when you're just hiring them for sex. Doesn't make much sense, but I guess pornstars can justify the former over the latter in their own minds because it's not prostitution per se.
Extra cost is the "fantasy tax". If you're a cameraman/director, you're hiring the girl to do a job. If you're a horny guy who's eager to have sex with a sex worker, you're hiring a girl to fulfill a fantasy. Fantasy has a higher price tag than reality.
I've shot lots of scenes and the OP seems reasonable to me. I think he could have done it for less $$ if he wanted to, but what he's really saying is, anyone can shot porn if they want to put a little work into it. I'd be interested to see his content, but trust me, this isn't really that hard. The work is hard, but it can be done.
how could I have saved money. I found the cheapest camera and lighting I could find online. As far as model rates, the cost of living in LA and Chicago is very highy so to get cute girls im gonna have to atleast cuff up 800-1200 bucks. I know you can get cheaper rates in florida,but if you have ways for me to cut cost I would like to hear them. These night shifts are getting tiring. lol
tbetts, it was just a comment, not trying to be critical. Most guys start with halogen shop lights from a home improvement store for about $60 not $600. They're full spectrum and give good quality light. As long as you do a custom white balance with a 1/2 blue/gray board (you can print your own with any inkjet printer), you'll get good color. The only real problem with halogens are they give off too much heat, and they don't look very professional. But you said you're starting out shooting amateur girls anyway. If you want to step up to florescent lights, you can build your own for less than $100 because I did it. You went with an older model 3CCD Sony when you could have done better with a newer quality consumer camera and saved $$ and got an easier to use camera. I'd be surprised if you're experienced enough to get the most out of the Sony. Not sure where you're finding talent, but your rates seem a little high for the talent you described. You seem happy with where you're at, so go with it and enjoy.
Blacksix - I don't recall reading in this thread that the OP has posted his "content" anywhere. Fantasy is definitely the main thing here, but it's not entirely about fucking a hot porn star so suggestions to just fuck an escort are pointless. The true fantasy is the OP considering himself a porn star and a member of the adult industry. If what he has shot is not good enough for clips4sale, it must be pretty shitty. edit: a post snuck in after Blacksix's... Edited by - Savoy on 1/4/2011 5:01:25 AM
yes I make copies of there ID's and they both sign model release forms. @rod I read about just using the lights from home depot but,I just didnt understand how to reflect the lights right with the board. andwant consumer camera do you recomeend,to be honest I went with the camera model I have because,I didnt wanna look like some random dude shooting porn once I start filimg with experience actresses,but I intrested to know which consumer cam to go with,because I want something a little lighter.
I dont know where u live but im sure it cant be that hard to find girls to work to 100-300$ for a couple hours.There's no point in spending too much money when you're only 'practicing' Plenty of attention whores out there who may even do it for free.If u want to bang your fav pornstars,just holla at those who escort. Lots of PWs are hurting financially right now,escorting for 200-500$. If i made 9.50$ aint no way in hell i would be doing what you're doing. How do you pay bills with that and manage to save thousands in a couple months??
honest question are you doing this just to get laid easy or are you really an aspiring artist behind the camera passionate about creating stimulating sex scenes?
I make 9.50 at the extra part time job I have. I make 45K a yr at my main job. I took the part time job to finance this new hobby/profession. I have no intrest in escorts, and you not going to get a decent looking chick on cam for 100 bucks. maybe for a solo or bj scene,but B/G is gonna atleast run you 500. and thats at the very very very low end
Well he doesn't appear to answer the cynics much, so I'm sensing a science fiction tale. Porn done on the cheap, usually looks that way. I suppose a truly great camera can do wonders though, so who knows. I would consider the OP films to be amateur though based on what I read, but hey if it's hot I wouldn't totally dismiss it. Provided it actually exists. Edited by - aplus on 1/5/2011 12:44:23 AM
I hope your model release forms are 2257 compliant. As for the lights and camera, you're past those decisions. You've already got them and now just need to make your decisions work for you. I'd suggest spending some time with your camera and learn to use it. Film non-porn stuff and post it to youtube and learn. Just as important is to learn how to use your lights to get the color you want. Good lighting and good color are difficult, but you can learn that too. Read up on white balance and make it work for you.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 5 2011 : 6:05AM
You're right, he does say he is planning on posting it eventually though, so as they say I'll believe it when I see it. I do know there are a handful of fans (Rod may be one) who do this and post their 'encounters' on tube and VOD sites.
Shitty video looks that way because the people who make it don't care what it looks like. It's refreshing that OP has some notion of quality standards. Some of my all-time favorite videos are cheaply-made clips purchased from clips4sale sellers, and (in their own way) they surpass the big-time porn producers' products.
I'm not suggesting it can't be done. Quite frankly, I'm hoping it can, especially in this new digital age of high-definition. In my mind, porn should never look cheap again given the technology that is now available. Talk is cheap with me though. I'm from Ohio, but should have been born in Missouri.
lol good for you but when your paying for sex the *woman* is not concerned with how old or ugly you are u really think can make money when you compare your homebrew porn to Pound The Round POV, Anal Prostitutes on Video or Schoolgirl POV dvd series? btw anyone know how much it would cost to do anal with a euro girl 18-30 like the ones on 21sextury? Mod note: trimmed quote and edited a word. Read the etiquette.
Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00
Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 10:48AM
In Europe? More like 350/400 Euros per hour minimum if you want anal (provided anal is on offer, not all girls do it, even those that did it on camera). And even higher prices for a megastar.
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