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Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 3:14PM
Very easy to say, I wrote my estimates and can back them up with rates on escort websites.
Where? Who? Website links with rates?
hoochimama
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 4:00PM
The rates they have on websites are several times higher than those that they actually charge if you call them, it's just a deterrent against the curious and a way to overcharge newbies/tourists. They also charge differently depending on what website you say you saw the ad on. From my experience in Iberia, France, Benelux and Germany you shouldn't be paying more than 200/hour for any girl advertising on a public access website.
You can easily look it up on hobbyist boards for confirmation.
Edited by - hoochimama on 3/20/2011 4:03:48 PM
Joey Starr
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 4:12PM
^
I don't dispute that, I dispute the "Porn Star escorting rate with anal" at 200€ per hour.
Edited by - Joey Starr on 3/20/2011 4:13:22 PM
Rod
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 4:14PM
Don't know about websites, links, etc. I'm just telling you what I personally paid last year in Germany. YMMV
 
Rod
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 4:19PM
OK, the fact that you dispute it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I don't know what else to say....??
Joey Starr
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 4:24PM
^
I just say don't generalize, that's all. The fact that you got a good rate doesn't mean anyone, all over Europe, can.
Rod
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 5:05PM
Joey, Drebin wrote: "btw anyone know how much it would cost to do anal with a euro girl 18-30 like the ones on 21sextury?" Based on my personal first hand recent experience with a girl in Germany I would rate as 'best in class' in her early 20s having oral, vaginal, anal for one hour, I replied simply 200euros. I didn't claim it was anything else. But for the record, it was spectacular! Peace.
tbetts12
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 5:13PM
I have made 1 movie since I posted this and it was pretty bad
because I have not really learned camera and lighting angles.
I am planning on taking a trip to california during,
the summer break to shoot 1 scene. I migth shoot a scene here
in chicago before then if I can save up enough money to both.
Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 5:24PM
I think we have a misunderstanding here, I was talking real porn stars who have featured in 21sextury scenes (DVD or websites).
I have the feeling the girl you mention isn't one of them, so we just have a different interpretation of the expression "like the ones on 21sextury". I understood it as "for instance girls on 21sextury" and you probably understood it as "girls looking as good/similar as the 21sextury actresses".
Am I wrong?
Rod
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 6:00PM
^ Joey, I've produced over 50 adult shoots including scenes included in videos that were nominated for AVN awards each of the last 4 years. I've worked with amateurs and established recognizable pornstars including a recent AVN new starlet nominee. I've filmed lots of hot women having hot sex. I don't know what type of girl you're thinking, but this girl was 'best in class'. Period. Rod
Rod
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908 Posts
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 6:54PM
Now that Joey and I have totally highjacked this thread, can we get back to tbetts12's OP? How about an update?
tbetts12
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 7:31PM
I have made 1 movie since I posted this and it was pretty bad
because I have not really learned camera and lighting angles.
I am planning on taking a trip to california during,
the summer break to shoot 1 scene. I migth shoot a scene here
in chicago before then if I can save up enough money to both.
Rod
Member

908 Posts
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 7:51PM
Do you have a plan for developing your skills before shooting again? Shooting is hard work and sex is always more enjoyable without trying to film too. If you just wanted to enjoy sex, you'd lose the camera and lights. I don't remember, are you shooting POV or are you mounting the camera on a tripod?
tbetts12
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 8:12PM
Im going to read some more books and youtube videos for
lighting, and i do pov and some tripod shooting.
 
Rod
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 8:36PM
^ for the lighting, I'd just recommend adding more light. You really can't have too much light. More is almost always better. I seem to remember you purchased a lighting-in-a-box kit. My guess is you don't have enough light. If you're shooting at night in a hotel room (just a guess), I guarantee you don't have enough light. Pump as much light as humanly possible into the room. If you're shooting during the day, open the drapes. If the walls are white, get some shop lights and bounce the lights off the walls and ceiling. If you have shadows, you likely don't have enough light. If you have enough light, it really doesn't matter how you light it. I wouldn't worry about three point lighting or rim lights or anything fancy. Don't read any books on how to light for portraits. Just add more light. When you think you've got enough, add another light. Just my opinion.
Rod
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Posted - Mar 20 2011 : 8:53PM
^^ As for camera work. POV is VERY hard to do. Fortunately, everything gets much easier if you have enough light (I'm assuming you're not shooting outdoors. That's another challenge unless you're shooting outdoors in the shade.) I'd suggest setting up your lights at home and film a friend (male of female) just moving around while you film them. No sex, just practice filming. Any kind of practice is helpful when you're in the heat of the moment and trying to film and fuck all at the same time. The more you can use the tripod, the easier it is. Maybe just use the POV at the beginning when you're doing some foreplay, and then at the VERY end when you're showing the facial. Just a suggestion.
One more comment on lighting. Try to use daylight from windows whenever possible. If the room is well lite with natural light, and then you add more light with shop lights, you can get enough light. Almost impossible without some daylight. I almost always try to shoot at 1PM in the afternoon or whenever the room has the most daylight.
pRonJeremy
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Posted - Mar 29 2011 : 5:17AM
I bet if you advertised on craigslist for a little extra help it would be pretty cheap
pRonJeremy
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Posted - Apr 3 2011 : 6:42PM
tbetts12,
come to think of it, perhaps we can partner and hire hotter more famous girls together? IM for my info!
Prod_Mitch
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Posted - Apr 20 2011 : 4:13PM
Cool bro. I was thinking about doing something like this myself. I just don't know how to find the girls for a reasonable price who can do a decent performance on camera.
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