Since I'm find the female orgasm the best part in a movie, I found it interesting to know..how do you know the female is coming for sure? What are tell-signs for the actresess?
I know that Christie Lee either jumps from the dick or her legs shake when comes. So it'd be interesting to collect a tell-tale sign for other actresess too.
In general, look for signs that she's in such ecstasy that she's completely lost control, doesn't care that there's a camera there, isn't the slightest bit self-conscious (this only works for girls who normally are, I guess). Many female orgasms look quite a bit like a male orgasm.
Also, look for red, flushed skin around the front of her neck and upper portion of her chest. That's not necessarily a sign of an orgasm but it's a good sign that she's actually turned on. Watch for her reaching for whom ever her partner is. A lot of times, a woman who isn't really turned on will just lay there and squeal....waiting for it to be over. A woman who's really into it will often initiate some things on her own. The guy doesn't need to tell her to suck him. She gobbles it up. These are all good signs that she's having enough fun that an orgasm is likely.
Also...a lot of women will momentarily push their partner away. This is apparently because the pleasure is so intense, she can't take it anymore. Well, some will pull the partner closer, some will push them away or pull away. Look for rapidly quivering muscles anywhere in the body...but particularly in the abdominal region and upper legs.
Any given indicator can be faked. Once a sufficiently large portion of the audience learns to look for a particular sign as "tell-tale", then it _will_ be faked on a large scale. Witness the number of "squirting orgasms" that are obviously urine, for example. Someday, fMRI technology will advance to the point where a 'foolproof' headband-scanner is cheaper than a cellphone is today, and you know what the porn-producers will do? Alter the readout.
My favorite is probably when the girl gets completely quiet for a number of seconds and then her body being so relaxed she must take a break before continuing the scene. Since a lot of viewers probably won't even notice it, it would be quite pointless to fake.
chaotic_23 - Still, a good fake orgasm is miles better than a bad fake one...or none at all.
There are some real female orgasms in porn. It's apparently not as easy to fake as many people think it is. Knowing what people are looking for and being able to do it in a way that makes it look natural, unrehearsed and spontaneous are two completely different things. I know good music when I hear it. I can't sing (well) or play any instruments. Hats off to the girl who can fake one and fool everybody.
Most guys can't recognize a fake orgasm when actually screwing the chick. How can you expect to recognize a female orgasm when merely watching on screen?
I can't see how the ego-issues making girls fake orgasms in their personal sex lives transfers to porn where the male performer isn't at all required or exspected to make the female performer cum.
In gonzo the girls don't even have to fake orgasm, no one really cares if they cum or not, so there's really no need to fake it.
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Posted - May 21 2007 : 6:53AM
It's useless searching for tells and keys to recognize orgasms. They happen, and sometimes the evidence is very visible. Sometimes not. Making an issue over recognition promotes the same kind of fakery that gets employed in real life, and most men can't tell the difference anyway. Don't look for big theatrical displays or shrill caterwauling. It's those subtle, lost, impossible to act moments, and sounds that don't emanate from the throat, but a deeper place. And don't believe it when people say that gonzo directors don't want or care about producing female orgasms. Just like us regular guys, they've never figured out how to guarantee it, but they're thrilled to capture it. The essence of real gonzo is a sport fuck captured on camera. There's certainly performing required, but not acting. Features require acting. Be observant, and do checkout the many threads about specific scenes where these ultimate pleasures have occurred.
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Posted - May 21 2007 : 7:37AM
Three Cheers to that.Indeed most men are so self centered even when they're inside the deep ravines of a wet pulsating pussy that the be all and end all is to cum nice and hard and only then do they think of the mates pleasure...unless it's the babe who has got the guy by the balls and knows when and how to apply the squeeze pressure since she is paying for the pleasure while the dick is attached to a hired gigolo...It's only then that the lady can expect the pleasure of having her orgasms first or along with the guy...else the guy goes home minus the paycheck for his services.
On-screen too only those dames throw caution to winds and spread their pussies and lie back to enjoy geting banged are the ones who mix business with pleasure or else are going out of their way to please as they want to be sure that the next film is round the corner with the same unit...Else an orgasm is faked just as most of the fucking excitement is created post production.Like Dolby surround sound the moans and the groans and whatever else is not achieved during the actual shootdue to various factors.
Very toughtful. It's like a journey, I guess. Take for instance your fav: Marie Luv...I totally dig her, one of the hottest chicks around period. How do we know she's truly experiencing the big O??
She came...for real. Can't fake like that. Wow, that's some major scene. Those guys sure pulled a number on her. One of the hottest performers out there, Marie Luv.
This is ridiculous, we never know that anything we see, read, hear whatever is a 100% real or not... How can we be sure the male performers reach orgasm just because something white shoots out their penises? It could all be fake!
If a girl looks like she's coming and not obviously faking it with theatrical moans and swaying body movements... then I see no reason to say 'I don't believe her because she COULD be lying to me', that would almost be disrespective...
i would think that it's very rare..after all these girls are working and in my personal experience women have to be very relaxed and at ease w/ their partner to let go like that so..
having said that,chloe definitley wasn't faking..wow,was she intense!
Wanna share with us, which movie it was?! [mod edit: snipped unnecessary part of quote] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 3/2/2009 3:32:41 PM
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 1:45PM
My rule of thumb is don't ever expect it in a feature...everything is to rehearsed and choreographed. Flushing maybe be a tell is someone like Sunny Lane does it, but it is useless when watching someone like Marie Luv. Pay attention to the girls hands leading up to the big "O" as they become very touchy feely, caressing the guys arms and chest. Usually a girl will turn her head to the side at the moment of truth. It most usually happens happens when the guy pays attention to her pussy either orally or digitally. Also don't look for one tell look for combination of things. Don't be fooled by expressions that resemble a visit to the dentist for a root canal. The girls who smile or giggle are usually relaxed enough to have one. Stay away from scenes were the girls are fucked outdoors on a rock, boulder or some otherwise uncomfortable object, including stair cases or some kitchen appliance. Edited to make the first sentence understandable. Edited by - Clam Digger on 3/4/2009 10:02:56 PM
Is there a trailer of the Marie Luv scene? I'd love to see it. Also Elegant Angel, especially movies directed by the owner Patrick Collins should often have REAL female orgasms because that is one of his personal turn ons and he would pick performers he could get those from. xoxo, Cindi Loftus http://lukeisback.com
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 6:35PM
You know shes orgasming when she squirts out half a gallon of water all over the crew. Oh wait, thats fake too isnt it.
While I'm pretty cynical about anything being "real" in porn, here's a list to get you started: Secretary’s Day, scene 1 starring Jordana James Swallow My Pride #3, scene 5 starring Cindy Crawford Cum Craving Teens #2, scene 1 starring Eva Angelina Whale Tail, scene 3 starring Sunny Lane Planting Seeds #2, scene 1 starring Sunny Lane Teen Idol #2, scene 1 starring Cassie Young Big Wet Asses #6, scene 3 starring Sandra Kay Tight and Asian #3, scene 2 starring Lucy Lee and Lily Thai Real Female Orgasms #3, scene 3 starring Tia Son Heels & Hose: The Early Stages, scene 2 starring Charmane Star and Gina Ryder Back Seat Bangers #5, scene 1 starring Brittany Wife Swappers, scene 3 starring Bianca Pureheart **Source: Videobox blogs
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 7:36PM
I can confirm the Sunny Lane scenes in Whale Tails & Planting Seeds - I have both of them.
Legs shaking uncontrollably, is the only way i accept an orgasm as really real. Flushing of chest etc, is not good enough, many girls get flushed when having sex. Its all in the legs, that's how u know for sure. eg. Gen Padova, Tawni Ryden, Kitten, Sunny Lane
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Posted - Mar 3 2009 : 10:00AM
I believe it was a Booty Talk scene with Mandingo. I'm not sure which volume it was off hand. ETA: Booty Talk 48 Edited by - Mr Springer on 3/3/2009 10:02:35 AM
I find it easier to recognise real orgasms in lesbian and especially solo masturbation porn than in boy girl. There are definitely real orgasms in lots of solo web cam shows like Brianna Ray (Bree) from Milf Next Door and Naughty Allie to name just a couple. These girls seem to be exhibitionists who enjoy getting off while interacting with people from all round the world. Also the Aussie sites IFM and Abbey Winters have lots of real orgasms, have a look at Chloe B or Immie from AW. I'm less convinced by some of the girls on FTV Girls but some are definitely real e.g. Gianna Michaels (Becky)and Sasha Knox. And Cytheria certainly has real orgasms, no one could fake what she does. Plenty more I can think of and I think real orgasms on camera are not as uncommon as seems to be the popularly held opinion. As Brianna Ray says to people who accuse her of faking "I'm here to enjoy myself, why would I fake. Do you fake it when you jerk your cock?"
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