Hmm, ok, I was about to leave this thread but that comment makes zero sense. Almost every single porn identifier we place on cis performers is not one we associate with gender identity. Small breasted is not an identifier of gender identity and neither is thick-cocked or "cockspinner" or Asian. I mean I accept the stance you are taking but it is crystal clear that the identifiers we use in porn are not all gender identifiers and never have been so where is the implication that a physical reference to a trans person would have to be part of their gender identity? Surely with that assumption there (one you would not dream of making for cis folk) you are treating trans people as different, as "other", as something out of the ordinary where all they are always to be viewed and framed in terms of their gender identity rather than fully fleshed out people? "trans woman with a penis" is not a gender identity. Woman is the gender identity and the penis is nothing to do with it.
It may or may not interest you to know that there is more blending of what would have been separate genres 20 years ago (yes I am the same Flash as 20 years ago here). Newer imprints such as AdultTime's Modern-Day Sins are starting to blend what would have been called straight, gay, and transgender content 20 years ago. I think that as more of the big studios do this, assuming the trend continues, that new terminology will come out. Interestingly, several of the porn pioneers back in the 70s would stick a gay or transgender scene into a straight film or a straight scene into a gay film. Sadly, over the years, many of these scenes got cut from the films and now are no longer available. Pat Rocco's Hollywood Cowboy is one of those films. A heterosexual scene was cut from the beginning of the film and, last I knew, no remaining prints still have the excised scene.
Genitalia has been a big part of gender identity in the past. At this point, if you aren't trying to be obtuse, I recommend you start reading essays by the trans community about gender identity as I think that will help you way more than I can.
If you are trying to be obtuse, then please since it has nothing to do with gender identity according to you, please point out all the male performers tagged as busty (yes, men have breasts) and then point out all the male performers tagged as small-breasted.
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Aaron Aardvark Deactivated User
Arkansas 53 Posts 12/04
Posted - Jan 5 2022 : 4:27PM
In the past, yes. In the past gender and sex were used more or less interchangeably, hence the present issues pertaining to female sports categories being unfortunately labelled "women's". I wasn't referring to these older ways of relating sex and gender because that is not the zeitgeist within which this discussion is clearly operating.
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Pr0nLover Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 7 2022 : 11:07PM
We all know your feelings. You are beating a dead horse. We all know by now you don't care who you offend as long as you get off. And even now, you use potentially offensive words in what you type, which at this point has to be considered on purpose. You don't need to respond with a claim that it isn't or another wild sobbing but I get off calling transgender performers slurs. If you got your way, the forums would be filled with slurs from people who get off on calling performers those slurs (a partial list can be seen in Feet N Ass' post) and please don't try to justify why that would be okay, I don't want to know if you are okay with calling black performers the n word, or the inverse why you think that calling transgender performers slurs is a different kind of okay. In far shorter words, time to drop it.
Feet N Ass, exactly.
A bit of a note here, this thread isn't to argue why one should be allowed be allowed to use slurs against transgender performers, it is so people who are unclear on what is okay and what isn't to have actual discussions.
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Ok. I think you may be taking me the wrong way, but I won't continue to beat the dead horse.
The term "shemale" has became obsolete (and inappropriate, probably), hasn't it?
Toughest part about porn terminology is it makes it harder (at least for me) to retrieve content from my collection. Categorisation and searches differ a bit.
Twerking was "ass shaking" before it became twerking, so that changed a bit of indexing.
It's a pet peeve more than anything, just a practical inconvience, but doesn't really make a difference in conversation or anything of the sort. I guess I just came here to complain. Pardon me
^ I don't have to reclassify, it's just that searching for titles or scenes or videos (whether in my collection or online) can be difficult with the change in name schemes.
I'll give you a practical example, because I don't I was clear.
If I wanted to search for a film that I remember had a "family" plot, but can't remember its name. I'd have to look up all of "taboo", "step [sibling]", "incest". Popularity of terms changed throughout the eras, so I have to search each term and scour through all the films in each. Not sure if this makes sense, but that's basically the struggle
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Porn_OG Deactivated User
7 Posts 6/22
Posted - Jun 18 2022 : 4:43AM
MOD: You just got booted for being a dick to stars and you already outed ourself by coming back here to do the same thing you did under your previous name.
Scott Richter is a fraud. I am really rich and the best YouTube gambler ever. 3 Posts 6/22
Posted - Jun 24 2022 : 6:04PM
[mod edit: this is not the thread to ask us to help you find a date or scene partner. Also, in a thread about how to respectfully discuss trans performers, you used a disrespectful term. Do better.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/24/2022 11:35:21 PM
I say "trans*" or "trans-identified" since trans* is an umbrella term that includes multiple identities- including people who's gender differs from sex assigned (for lack of a better term) at birth or who don't identify by the either/or female/male binary. Basically, I go on what I've learned from trans* people. I avoid using some terms that have been widely used in porn such as "trannies" or "she-males." If we wish to be gender inclusive, please avoid saying "men, women, and transgender." Some trans* people have objected to this on the grounds that it's "third gendering" when they might not identify as a third gender. Some may identify as women, some as men, and some as a non-binary identity. Thus, if we wish to be gender inclusive, it's better to say "people of all genders."
Also, avoid speaking for tran* people if we're not trans*. We can speak in support of their rights and well-being, but we cannot speak for anybody we're not.
As a trans person shemale is super outdated term and reminds me of the 80's back ads of Hustler magazine. Lots of my fellow trans sisters find it offensive, I personally have been called wors, so I am not offended. Will let someone know that its an antiquated term that is a slur. As a independent content producer some of our sites here recently stripped that word from us, so it booted us out of categories we had ranked in, and we had to scramble to find a new category, with ALL of us in the same one category now. Frustrating. Also, here in a few years, some content wont rank in Google or anywhere because of the stripping away of that word. Its hard to not just "fetishize" us. Same with the term BBC, its just a fetish term, and Black men who want to get away from that term are going to have a hard time...
Thank you for writing on the nuances. Good point about how sometimes the fetishizing terms that may be offensive to some can also be beneficial in ways to the communities involved- even if these aren't terms I use. It depends on the context. To add to what you said, this reminds me of references to people of color as "exotic." While some may find this offensive and imperialistic, some who fit into this very broad category (which is used to include multiple races, ethnicities, and nationalities) also use it to their advantage and power to them. Likewise, with terms such as "slut" or "bitch" toward trans or cis women, or to "feminize" men who are into that. In fact, we may have all used language some people may find objectionable to our advantage, and I don't claim to be an exception. We use language that works for us as sex workers. There are multiple ways of looking at this and as you eluded to, being respectful can take many forms.
^thank you very much for your "insider" perspective and to point out that there is a flip side for political correctness, not only for those who are missing the tags to find their favorite scenes and stars.
I do not complain about the switch here, but I remember lots of complaints either here on ADT or elsewhere where peolple felt misleaded without any tag.
Gender teassignment surgery id s costly electove procedure. I omagone thst there are a lot of transgender women out there who simply can't afford it.Not everyone is Caitlyn Jenner.
The thing I have a hard time wrapping my head around is getting one's penis surgically removed. To my way of thinking, I wouldn't care what I grlt like I was. I'm not losing my dick. I would just be a woman with a dick. Its literally a man or tramshender woman's only source of sexual pleasure. I would guard my dick with my life. And do, every day.
Navk on topic. The adult industry itself isn't very respectful of transexuals. The way transgender people are portrayed in porn is pejorative and completely unrealistic. And its always trans women who have intact penises, usually rather large ones. They don't portray trans men at all. I think that the way trans women are poraued in porn contributes to the way transgender people are thought of in the hteater society. Of course as I was writing that'll itch occurred to me that nothing in porn is realistic and its often pejorative in general.
They do. Buck Angel is the most famous, I believe. Another was Buddy Wood, but apparently he was inappropriate on sets and gone now, IIRC.
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dodona Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 25 2023 : 7:48PM
MOD: Why some people are so immature that they have to have their account deactivated is beyond me. However, your extremely transphobic statement has ended your time here.
Back in the day, I would often "girl up" and hang out with a group of Bi/Lesbian friends at gay night clubs and dance parties. The term "transgender" wasn't in our vocabulary back then. I was a "toy-boy maidservant" for a pan-sexual Afro-Carribean woman and White Mexican Lesbian Lover for a while. We knew various straight and gay Drag Queens, and once saw a "Lady-Boys on Display" performance at a Queer night club. Gender Identity & Sexual Orientation is a mixed bag indeed.
As a Straight Cis-Gendered Sub with a fascination with Almost All Things Lesbian, I'm wondering if there are any so-called "Trans-Lesbian" videos or photo sets floating around anywhere. I remember seeing a fair amount of BDSM themed magazines (and a few videos) featuring Dominatrices "girl-schooling" various sissies, "trannies," and lady-boys, back when DVDs were replacing VHS tape.
"As of today, it will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female".......Let's see if this will have an impact on porn and it's genres over the next years.
Last I checked, Congress makes the laws, not the POTUS. Unless TrumpyDumpty fulfills his wet dream of being POTUS for life, his 'official policy' is meaningless. Furthermore, encouraging people to lie, as this "policy decree" does, is just plain stupid. Yeah, yeah, nothing new there.
MOD: Scene listings must include either: a) Performer name + DVD name/Company (and say that it is a DVD) or b) Performer name + Site name + name of the scene on the site (or date the scene was uploaded to the site if there isn't scene name). (UPDATED MARCH 2025) or c) Link to the scene on the site (and make it easy for your fellow members to find the scene you are discussing).
Don't list the new scene as "new scene with X." For instance, if someone checks AdultTime daily and someone else checks AdultTime weekly, what is new is a different and for the latter, the scene may already be on page 2 of their listings. And the post is completely useless to people months in the future. If a thread is company specific, like a thread on Girlsway, you don't need to list the site, but you still need to list the scene name, or if none is provided, the date the scene was released.
This will help your fellow members find the scene you are discussing. When this information isn't provided, almost immediately, someone has to ask where.
These rules have been in effect for over 6 years now. Pretending not to understand them doesn't work anymore.
Great initiative. It is crucial that we evolve the language we use to show respect to the performers who drive this industry. Thanks for sharing the GLAAD guide; it's a helpful resource for everyone to stay on the same page.
Hotwife Behaving Badly - review by bono-one
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