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NewRomancer
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738 Posts
7/08
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 12:23PM
That's a crock....
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 1:21PM
I expect I would become more tolerant of flaws if VOD prices come down to dvd rental prices. $2-3 for 2 hours, immediately available instead of waiting days for a dvd that might be scratched. Guy goes blind stroking himself instead of getting a bj? Fast forward to a better part, or rent another one. Bankruptcy and mental illness might soon follow, but those are different thread topics.
Edited by - charn on 7/27/2010 1:22:04 PM
fd
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7 Posts
4/10
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 1:47PM
I think people should look at the Steam platform for PC games, or the App Store for Apple-related software, by way of comparison. PC games are pirated like crazy, but what you find a lot of users of Steam admitting to, is that they actually prefer to purchase over Steam rather than pirate like they used to do, and some of them even buy the same game they already own on DVD if it's cheap and the only way they can get it integrated into Steam. What makes Steam better than piracy? Among other things, all the content is in one place, you get automatic patches without worrying about incomplete files and viruses, and it's integrated into a community, if you wish to take part. Additionally, while new releases are the usual $50-60, any game that is more than a couple of years old can often be had on sale at some point during the year at $5 or less. Where buying a retail game and dealing with DRM is usually more hassle than piracy, in most people's situation Steam and its present-but-not-overbearing DRM is even easier than pirated.
Same idea with Apple's App Store. I'm sure many people have spent lots of disposable income on impulsive purchases there, mostly because it's so easy, so browsable, with legitimate reviews, and you're sure that the listed price is all that you will be paying. If you jailbreak your device you could probably download all the content for free somewhere, but the average adult doesn't have the time. The truth is that the most active pirates basically pirate for the sake of pirating, and build up libraries they don't even have time to go through once.
What's stopping adult entertainment from this sort of model? For one thing, there seems to be a lot of distrust between the big companies, or at least the unwillingness to want to share a platform and the profits from it. Secondly, to develop a system like this takes expertise and money, and most investors and corporations won't touch hardcore porn with a ten foot pole. And though some people might think it's just from prudishness, the truth is that though we all know of a handful of companies that are mostly responsible, porn as a whole has honestly earned its reputation for being a shady business where there aren't many standards of professional conduct, and almost everybody has a story of being exploited, not just the performers, but any customer that has believed the promise of a video cover or website. Maybe a group of producers can get together and develop some kind of A-level certification for professionalism, health and saftey benefits, consumer satisfaction and, yes, performer residuals, which would get the respect of the public at large. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
nateglass
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I must break you
201 Posts
12/05
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 3:49PM
One thing that has gone unnoticed is how much content is being put on these tubes legitimately, though not the way you'd think.
If any of you frequent tubes often you'll see a plethora of videos watermarked with the web address www. dvdrig. com. These are full scenes as well, not trailers or promo clips. These scenes are being placed there by Videosz, a well known all-you-can-eat VOD site. So when a studio sells their content to videosz (and the only studios on videosz are mostly low-end stuff), Videosz is taking that content and uploading it to all the other tube sites. It's perfectly legal, whether or not the studio realizes it, I'm not sure how many studios actually read the contract or realized what Videosz' intent was. So it's keeping these tube sites full of full-length content (albeit lower quality stuff) combined with all the stolen higher-quality stuff.
Edited by - nateglass on 7/27/2010 3:50:07 PM
 
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 4:26PM
The sex advice columnist Dan Savage has requested readers to post home videos on redtube or xtube.
UnkwnUsr2
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443 Posts
2/05
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 8:09PM
The Steam comparison is invalid. Games are software and Steam is successful because of vendor lock-in/DRM, online games and fan-created content
This is also an invalid comparison as it's about DRMed hardware-dependent software. If anything, mention iTunes. Even then, iTunes works by vendor lock-in, DRM, targeting technologically impaired rich people and business deals with major players such as Google.
What is true though is that there needs to be a more centralized platform for content, as I've touched upon on the previous page. Multiple platforms of this type exist (AEBN, hotmovies, videobox, clips4sale), plus a lot of publishers have their own thing as well (Zero Tolerance on Demand, Evil Angel on Demand etc.). Major problem is too much competition, no customer community, poor previews, no reviews and all the things I've mentioned previously.
Edited by - unkwnusr2 on 7/27/2010 8:19:53 PM
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