Now before i say let me say I am a liberal white male whol oves watching porn I like seeing all kinds of girls in porn including minority girls. Now when i say I feel guilty watching minority girls I'm just not speaking racially. I also mean white woman who do not fit the american standards of beauty rather it be because there weight height, facial features or ven economic status. Now heres where I feel guilty watching minority girls in porn especially extreme porn. I know girls chooose to be porn, however when you are a minority you are often denied oppurtunities in life. you can either be born in a bad economic situation like 23% of african americans and a huge percentage latinos, now yes I know there are poor white girls as well and many of these poor white girls make there way to into porn becuase there economic situation gives them limited option. but lets be honest if a poor white girl and a poor black girl walk into a job interview according to"" Harvard university studies" the white female will get the job 3/4 times. and discrimination studies also suggest that the more attractive you are the moe likely you are to get a job. so a poor attractive white girl will get a job over an unattractive white girl. so where does this leave the minority girls. they either have to keep searching for another job or find un conventional ways to survive, and one of those unconventional maybe the sex industry. now if a girl chooses to be in the sex industry . I have no problem with it. but if a lets say an african american girl has to choose between starving or making minium wage her entire life or the sex industry. In reality she did not have a choice if the only choice that enables your chances of survival to be better is the sex industry. humans are naturally made to syrvive to " not survive is not an option. so there is a feeling of guilt that maybe if this girl was not an minority she would not be here sucking cock on camera for my enjoyment while the rest of society looks down on her as a piece of whore scum. I know there are girls blk and white who do porn for super materialistic reasons and not just survive . I can spot those girls a mile away , because i know they have other means to survive and they do porn because they really like the attention or they just want to drive around in luxury cars. example looking at jeena jameson attractive white female yes she came from a poor background, but looking at biography and the fact that when she was younger she looked like the ideal american woman. I know for a fact she had teh oppurtuntity to do other things so i dont feel guilty wacking to her vids. pt 2 coming soon
pt 2. now lets go on to how minority girls are treated ''inside'' the porn industry. now yes porn with gonzo affords alot of different fetishes and niches to allow work for all different kinds of woman, but lets be honest hot white chick is still the most bought and most in demand for contemporary porn. even lex steele said black woman may get paid more because they feel a popular niche , but they get dont get as many calls because they are type casted into only one niche and less marketable to the broader audience who is mostly white. this leads to making less money and even lowering the standards with who they work. example all of the black pornstars who are popular right now hell the top 7 have all done interracial scenes, because they probably can not afford to turn down the oppurtunity for work. but all the popular white female pornstrs have not done interracial, because they get more work oppurtunity so they get to be more selective. " I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A GIRL BL ACK OR WHITE REFUSING TO DO INTERRACIAL OR REFUSING TO WORK WITH ANYBODY FOR ANY REASON. but when one type of model is afforded that luxury and the other one does not I beleive thai unfair. 2nd it seems like girls who dont fit attractive white female role in porn are forced to do more extreme acts like throat gagging, double anal, degrading name calling and spitting. im speaking of unattractive white girls in porn here who get treated like crap in these scenes and I am a fan of extreme porn. example lacy duvalle, and candace von did a seen for ghettogaggers.com an extreme interracial site. when at no other point in there carees they had not done anything like. before or after so the only cocclusion I can come to for why they would choose to go from east and tame porn to the more hardcore stuff is that the producers werent calling them as much so with limited options they let duke skywalker and his boys pound their face in. 2nd it seems like girls who are black,bbw's,milfs or any one that does not fit the attractive standard of beauty in america gets treated low class in porn. example rodney moore when he shoots his regular attractive white female stars. he takes time to get an actual set camera man lighting etc. for alot of his bbw shoots with overweight or fat woman he just fucks them pov style in a cheap hotel"holiday Inn"" lol no crew bad lightning and he just cums in their mouths face and tell them to go home. im not saying its always like this,but i notice these things. alot of black models especially amateurs get the slut/hotel treatment as well as unattractive white girls. well theres my rant
Don't let me stop ya. I just likes ta watch. Heh...heh...heh. 95 Posts 6/07
Posted - Aug 1 2007 : 10:53PM
You wrotes up a lot of words. Much more than I could work with at a sittings. But some of your words ring for true with Festus and are worth a fare comentings also.Yes! This much I like strong! Add fistings slobber with gobbings of thick drool and pissings with glee and I ready for a blind buy mostly.
---- I am a raincoats. And one day I will make the greatest pornoings ever on film!
I have not the same standards than yours. For me, ugliness is subjective and a stupid concept.
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66 Posts 7/07
Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 4:05AM
I have to disagree porn industry is discrimination haven. In fact porn industry is similar to Sports world: Race don't matter as long as you got what it takes. Yes there are a few stupid directors that intentionally humiliate poor 3rd world girls but this type of bigotryis not particularly worse in porn industry, but it just looks a lot worse due to the innate vulnerable nature of porn: Girls have to get buck naked and fuck in front of camera. BTW IMO, because of this porn's unique and innate vulnerability factor, I believe all porn girls should be treated with respect on camera. This doesn't mean the sex act shouldn't be rough and sadistic: Abuse the girl with class and discipline. But then again there are those who think lack of Asian males in NBA is discrimination. These type of ppl will never cease to find discrimination in any industry, including porn's Edited by - heart pure on 8/2/2007 4:05:52 AM Edited by - heart pure on 8/2/2007 4:06:52 AM Edited by - heart pure on 8/2/2007 4:13:47 AM
I suggest you quit watching porn that makes you feel "icky." While you are at it, I suggest you quit using products that may be made by economically-challenged minorities...that means almost every single product available for sale in the world today. And maybe you should quit watching TV, or using the internet, as those involve electronics that are likely assembled by same. And maybe you should just leave the USA if you live here as our entire culture runs on the backs of the non-skilled or low-skilled workforce.
I'll knock up your wife and won't give a f*** 74 Posts 6/07
Posted - Aug 4 2007 : 1:41AM
I cum when I watch minority porn you must have some personality disorder. Pussy's pussy. There, all cured? I seriously think you're looking too deep into the girls' personalities. Just go with the illusion that's displayed on the screen and you'll be fine.
mjdavis, you should stay away from ghetto gaggers, the title alone should clue you in. Instead watch any/all of the Feeling Black dvds. Stefano and company love the black women and treat them well. As to your entire premise, check out Teenage Anal Princess 4. Watch black girl and box cover girl Pink. Her extreme enthusiasm -- she has a great time with the guys and clearly loves showing off her hot body and sexuality for the camera and the fans at home. Also check out the behind the scenes on the dvd. The girl is bright, sober, and clearly loving every minute of it. Contrast Pink, in the same movie, with Katie Ray who presents in her scene and especially in the behind the scenes as a drugged out and/or brain dead trailer trash whore. The racial line you attempt to draw does not exist. Just pick better porn (more to your preferences) and enjoy!
I know exactly how you feel. I always feel guilty seeing black, white, Asian or hispanic dudes having to perform in porn when they could be hedge fund managers making hundreds of millions of dollars a year. It just ain't right. Then again, maybe it is better than having the jobs out-sourced to Ireland or India.
to be honest, I agree (to a certain extent) with the OP. I feel that the ratio from "decent" porn feature Black starlets versus low quality or budget porn in the same genre is disparaging. I'd even go as far to say that most of the porn out feature Black women is all crap like "Jizz on Dat Booty 12" or "Ghetto Hoochie Mamas 9" Lexington Steele has said himself that he feels that Black pornstars aren't given the attention, time, or budget they deserve from producers. I am an absolute amateur in the industry and I've even had agents tell me that Black women reduce the value of porn. so mjdavis - I feel you.
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T0201 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 17 2007 : 5:32PM
Their mere presence reduces the value of it eh? That's pretty racist of them to say. And also demonstrably incorrect. Edited by - hardware on 9/17/2007 8:45:14 PM
sadly, there is a lot of racism within the industry. Look at certain titles: "Slant Eyed Sluts" of course referring to the Asian talent...it's like they think that because we're in porn it's ok for them to try and demoralize us. It's really disheartening especially for someone like me, a newbie. But it's my personal goal, or mission, to make African American girls competition for our Caucasian counterparts...unlike a lot of Black girls within the industry, I don't want to make money, then leave...I'm actually trying to establish a name for myself by performing really well (and getting you guys all hot lol ;) )...and within doing so, I hope to set a standard for Black women in the industry. ok, I'm officially off my soapbox lol mod: extraneous quote removed Edited by - hardware on 9/17/2007 8:45:47 PM
oh and I'm sorry about the typos in my initial post...I didn't proofread it before I posted it :)
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Posted - Sep 17 2007 : 8:38PM
In case you didn't know it is possible to edit your posts to fix such things. Just find the original and click on the icon at the top of the post that looks like a pencil and sheet of paper. Welcome to the forums.
I'm a black male, and I know that there are all sorts of fucked up things in the porn industry (white chicks that won't do black guys, directors being assholes, etc.) but I've really never thought of the injustices of society playing a part in a woman's decision to go into porn. Maybe you have something there, but I never really dwelled on it. I'm sure there are some girls that get in it for quick cash then get out, some that want to experiment, some that just love sex, and some that need to fit habits....trying to break down the why, who, and how will drive you nuts. I HAVE however, always said to the fellas that it DOES seem that females that aren't that attractive (no matter WHAT ethnicity) seem to get fucked and dogged out more than the attractive girls......but then again, Cody Lane is pretty hot and she got pounded, choked, and dogged out in her GANGBANG AUDITIONS scene so maybe I'm imagining it. LOL Basically, if they directors are like any other guy that got a "strobelite honey" at the club and took her home...they went crazy on her because she was there and you were horny as hell. But sometimes that very attractive girl you go bezerko on also, because you want to show her that just because she's hot doesn't mean the pussy is golden. LOL Let's just say EVERYONE gets dogged and enjoy the movies.....don't worry your mind too much...lol
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nietzsche Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 17 2007 : 9:53PM
This thread has a lot of stroke potential. Let's discuss more how economic necessities make nubile and innocent young women make choices that lead to degradation performed in front of media and undertaken through the agency of pistoning penii.
stroke potential LOL all the girls do it for the $$$$ having an idealist vision of girls girls doing it for the love of it is completely insane! minority girls, or "economically challenged" girls LOL would also mean all the eastern european babes and where would that leave all the poor storkers??? stroking solo that is. I'll just say this. Minority chicks have a lot of stork potential and i have no qualms about it!!
I can occassionally suffer from white liberal guilt involving minorities when it comes to many facets of life. However I don't feel that way when watching porn. The fact that I enjoy watching Black, Asian, and Hispanic porn starletts in action makes me feel good in a way because I'm not descriminatory on what races I feel are attractive. Now it might be true that minority girls may be more so pushed into more extreme porn, but most of what I watch is of the more extreme fassion so I see the white girls in my porn basically treated the same as the minority girls. One area however that white girls seem to get some advantage is production values, though on the other hand I've seen pretty darn good production values in some black and Asian porn as well.
To quote Qaugmire: "I felt guilty once, but she woke up half way through..." I think levels of guilt are felt by all watchers of porn... I'm not a qualified psychyitrist so I'm not able to back this up with any significant arguement beyond my over-generalized statement above.
I don't watch a lot of specifically Asian or Black porn, so I cannot speak to those, but I do watch a lot of Latin porn. I feel no remorse for doing so, because in general I don't see anything demeaning done in most of them. There are a few out there that play on racial stereotypes of fruit sellers and maids, but I tend to mostly steer clear of that and they don't seem the norm. Honestly, it sounds like liberal white guilt for no other reason than you feel the need to feel guilty about something. With very few exceptions, I just don't buy the concept that someone runs to porn because they have no other choices. There are plenty of jobs in the world, some good, some not so good, but there is plenty a person can do instead of porn. Doing porn would be a huge decision and anyone who does it should think long and hard about the benefits and the consequences and choose their path with forethought.
