Softcore generally refers to simulated sex, not just simple nudity.
Ha. I'm not an old timer though. I'm far too young! I am at heart though...
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| UnkwnUsr2 Member 443 Posts 2/05 |  Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 12:34AMI think the softcore genre needs more love. Nobody seems to like softcore anymore. People wanna see a muffin being shat out into someone's mouth, I don't wanna see that. Softcore is great. You just have 1, possibly 2 girls getting naked in front of the camera. Isn't that fabulous. That is all Topic Moved by - flash on Dec 24 2019 [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 1:31AM Softcore generally refers to simulated sex, not just simple nudity. Ha. I'm not an old timer though. I'm far too young! I am at heart though... [Link] |
| junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 2:58AM Wayne In Dallas [Link] |
BlackSix  All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 3:42AM [Link] |
| UnkwnUsr2 Member 443 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 6:02AM [Link] |
| JGMadisonW Member 14 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 8:39AM [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 1:07PM It's the ultimate for those who can't get enough tease from the typical gonzo or feature porn. The downside is that many of my favorite performers don't do this sort of softcore and the few companies which produce it tend to lock in on a narrow range of girls. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 2:28PM [Link] |
| Roads To Moscow Dianic Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com 1390 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 2:42PM I'm not that old, and I watch Russ Meyer, Radley Metzger, Paul Morrissey, Roberta Findlay, Jess Franco, Joe D'Amato, Pete Walker, and Mac Ahlberg films all the time. I'm not saying this is the case with you junglew, but I hope I'm never so jaded that these films seem insufferable.  [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 3:00PM [Link] |
| teaganrulz Member 7 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 7:34PM I challenge anyone to go out and watch Blakes High Heels and watch the scene where Kelly Havel walks up and down the streets of Rome in her lingerie and tell me that is not a turn on. Just the shots of her legs and her beautiful ass, I think ill watch that tonight. Or in Blakes Girlfriends April Flowers leg show, that is so simple yet so hot!! Its more of an April ass show more than anything. Check it out guys [Link] |
| junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 7:44PM I watched a few Russ Meyer films but he was more interested in blood as much as simulated sex. We watched them because we had nothing else at the time. Can get stimulated just watching a woman cross her legs so a tease is good but need some relief. Real men like a whole host of erotica but I like the porn we have today. Wayne In Dallas [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 7:54PM Back to the topic at hand - it seems as though audiences get split over softcore/hardcore (and I think sexploitation counts as a third term, different from softcore) as though they are either on a continuum or are mutually exclusive. Aside from the interesting questions these dichotomies raise, I wonder why we can't see them a distinct genres that we can appreciate on their own terms... [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 8:02PM Jacco [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 10:36PM I think the only Meyer films I can recall with bloody scenes are Beneath the Valley of the Ultravixens and Up! [Link] |
| cand86 Member 164 Posts 8/08 | Posted - May 1 2009 : 3:04AM But sometimes I just need a bit of sweet, sexy skin without sex- a striptease or sexy dance, or making out and foreplay without the fucking. [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - May 1 2009 : 12:20PM There's all the hardcore, balls to the wall, all-sex no setup porn you could possibly want out there, so if that's what you want, then great - some days you just want a baloney sandwich and you want it now and nothing else will do. But show me a hottie and a bottle of baby oil, and let me watch her pour it all over herself while she looks straight into the camera and says "cobalt, I can't wait to feel my slick, smooth body sliding against you, get my slippery titties wrapped around your hard, throbbing dick - don't you want me, Coby, well .. do ya?" Fuck yeah, I do! I have a penis and a pulse, don't I? Yeah...make me want it until I'm ready to reach into the screen and pull her right out into the room. Unfortunately, it takes much more effort to achieve real eroticism than it does to put a camera on some dude piling a big one in some girl's ass for 20 minutes and then coming all over her face. So, while you can get all the baloney sandwiches you want, some days you want the fucking seared ahi tuna with horseradish lime mustard and grilled asparagus and a nice Australian shiraz, but nobody is fucking serving that, and you know why? Because baloney is cheap and easy, and the good stuff takes time and effort, that's why. But oh, the good stuff, when you get it - you savor every bite. I would love to see more good tease and flirt, bump and tickle, clothing and setting and dialogue driven stuff. But who is making that and not making it fucking boring? Anyone? [Link] |
| Royal Tee Member 665 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 1 2009 : 9:40PM Shannon Tweed rules them all! [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - May 1 2009 : 11:03PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - May 1 2009 : 11:16PM [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - May 1 2009 : 11:25PM [Link] |
| just_me Member 133 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 12:55AM I'd much rather watch a soft tease than see some drugged out skank having her ass stretched seven ways 'till Sunday. Why so much porn is targeted to those who want to see the inside of every girl's ass, I will never understand... [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 1:12AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 1:14AM [Link] |
| Royal Tee Member 665 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 1:15AM [Link] |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 12:22PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 12:27PM Softcore is a SIMULATED sex/solo scene. I.E., NO PENETRATION! A solo scene in which a girl runs the OUTSIDE of her pussy or rubs a toy on the OUTSIDE of it is softcore; simulated. She is not penetrating herself. However, if she inserts a toy/finder/whatever else INTO herself, it is no longer "simulated" as she is actually performing an act of sexual penetration = HARDCORE. Even if that's not where you draw the line between hard and soft, it certainly is where almost all distributors do. Any penetration of any sort and you have a HARDCORE film. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 2 2009 : 12:31PM I think junglew is just stressing that he's not really looking for good filmaking, but rather lengthy bouts of poorly photographed, though extremely explicit screwing, such as what one typically gets today. However, if you were so put off by the likes of the mostly good filmmakers listed above (and where alive in the 1960s/70s), why didn't you just go and buy some stags? They were usually nothing but screwing, and featured far more attractive people than are around today. [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 8:51PM Jacco [Link] |
| csarah61 New Member You can do anything, but not everthing 3 Posts 12/19 | Posted - Dec 24 2019 : 12:33AM [Link] |
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| genesim Deactivated User 62 Posts 4/18 | Posted - Jan 8 2020 : 5:15PM Btw as for subject, I am all for the drilling, but the story before and after makes it even better. Radley Metzger is a great example. Camille 2000 is a fine film and it is not hardcore at all (well unless you look really close at the background during the jail scenery me thinks). Yet the story is what makes Gaubert even more attractive (if that is possible!). I don't know why so many hate this movie, because I think it is very easy to get off on her. And John gotta agree. The women looked so much more attractive when they weren't carbon copy silicone assembly line. Don't get me wrong, women are still attractive today, but it seems the acting and gag "gluck" "gluck" "gluck" blowjobs stupid shit has gone through the roof. Give me some dressing and glamour over that any day! I mean seriously, has no one seen what a decent blowjob looks like anymore? I remember Ginger Lynn talking about how you have to worship the cock and put your all into it. Now we have women that quite obviously look like they hate what they are doing (see the after outtakes for proof) and no offense, are quite bad at it. It is like a vicious stupid cycle rinse repeat, rinse repeat. Now am I putting down silicone or surgery across the board, NO, but the combination of it being all there is? The same goes for watching a gag blowjob. How about some finesse? Imagination? Anything PLEASE! As for hardcore, well Radley obviously delivers in that department too. The Opening of Misty Beethoven is the Pet Sounds of porn for me. [Link] |
| jdona2017 Member 15 Posts 3/17 | Posted - Mar 20 2021 : 12:17PM Sometimes i wondered, are they secretly actually doing it, and no one knows, sure te ladies were licked a few times on purpose. [Link] |
| Kowalski Member 97 Posts 8/17 | Posted - Mar 21 2021 : 5:37PM It lasted about an hour. The entire movie was a close up of a woman's face supposedly having an orgasm. The loud sound of a vibrator played continuously. No dialogue, no other performers, no body shots. The most boring junk I've ever seen, probably cost about $300 to produce. Camille 2000 was a distant 2nd. On the other hand, I always thought Irv Klaw stuff and old burlesque flicks were hot. Betty Page in bra and panties never got old. [Link] |
| T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Mar 21 2021 : 7:37PM Abigail Lesley Is Back in Town (1974) Confessions of Young American Housewife (1974) and Misty (1975) tb [Link] |
| hoochimama Deactivated User 1438 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Apr 1 2021 : 4:27PM IMO it's the likes of playboy & cheap skinemaxers that consistently bungled it for the past couple of decades. [Link] |
| Secret Guy Senior Member Stay Beautiful 2407 Posts 10/17 | Posted - Mar 18 2022 : 8:59PM The directing and acting isn't good but Kira Reed is awesome in it, as her acting isn't that bad. And the opening sex scene on the office table is perfect. [Link] |
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