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Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 10:34PM pornlaw wrote: Shooting outside California puts your model releases at risk. Paying people to have sex on camera is only a protected (case law) First Amendment right in two states - California and New Hampshire. In every other state its quasi-legal and might even be considered illegal. Therefore you cannot contract for an illegal act. And thus your model releases might not hold up in court. Click to expand Interesting take on the issue. I hadn't considered the model release could be rules invalid because of the illegal act. I guess that's why you hire legal counsel. Thanks for the contribution. [Link]
Unicorn Member 156 Posts 4/04	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 1:31PM > Look I'm not really tryna hear all of that. You are an EPIC FAIL waiting to happen. Barnum was right. Best of luck. [Link]
Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 1:47PM Rod wrote: Interesting take on the issue. I hadn't considered the model release could be rules invalid because of the illegal act. I guess that's why you hire legal counsel. Thanks for the contribution. Click to expand I wouldn't "downplay" that part at all. I lot of producers are really playing-with-fire IMO shooting outside California. Sooner or later, someone is gonna get caught. Edited by - aplus on 1/1/2012 1:48:43 PM [Link]
HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 1:57PM Porn Scout wrote: Good luck to you Hollywood. People with expertise have taken their time to provide you with some very good information and advice. What you choose to do with that information is up to you. Click to expand And I appreciate that too. I didnt know about the model contract either. If that's the case I might have to register my business in New Hampshire. I really do appreciate that. I have an idea about the quasi-legal part. I will be trying to get in contact with a sex crimes attorney this week, I see there are a few in my area. I've read about MCAP here in Maryland but I really don't think they're that powerful. I have a feeling that once the word gets out that they'll fall back/fall off pretty quick. Maryland, DC, and Northern Virginia aren't exactly known for being "stuck in the past". We're opening up Cannibus Dispensaries in the Spring. There's Gay Marraige over here too. It doesn't really stop there either. But please share more information if you can. I am definitely interested, you have my full attention. I know nothing and I'm ready to learn everything. [Link]

HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 2:17PM Aplus wrote: Rod wrote: Interesting take on the issue. I hadn't considered the model release could be rules invalid because of the illegal act. I guess that's why you hire legal counsel. Thanks for the contribution. Click to expand I wouldn't "downplay" that part at all. I lot of producers are really playing-with-fire IMO shooting outside California. Sooner or later, someone is gonna get caught. Click to expand If its Art then it's Art, word to Jay Sin. But if it's just people fucking or some woman getting the crap beat out of her in every scene then that might be the problem. I think that a lot of companies have cum under fire becuz of how they handled business. I mean if you're sexin some chick and tugging on her hair it's one thing. But to do that and then publicly pass her off as a dumbass-drug addicted-suicidal-child abuse victim who has daddy issues I can see how that would leave a sour taste in some people's mouths (no pun intended). It also doesn't help when you turn around and call the people speaking out "Save-A-Hoe"s and Crazy etc, etc. Some will say that the stereotype is what sells it but I don't really believe that. At the end of the day it's the Act and Quality of the Scene is what's making it sell. I'm not saying satire should be outlawed completely all of the time but most people aren't really trying to hear all that. I'd imagine most people just wanna see u get it on and get the job done (if they even watch the entire scene). Satire has a time and a place but when that's your whole objective you can come under a lot of "deserved" fire. Like it or not some Industry Companies have a responsibility and a Duty (great powers, great responsibility star wars shit) and if part of your objective is to be disrespectful and tasteless then i can see why This company got shot down faster than That company. Some of them really don't understand the Art and the power of the Art. [Link]
Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 2:22PM Aplus wrote: Rod wrote: Interesting take on the issue. I hadn't considered the model release could be rules invalid because of the illegal act. I guess that's why you hire legal counsel. Thanks for the contribution. Click to expand I wouldn't "downplay" that part at all. I lot of producers are really playing-with-fire IMO shooting outside California. Sooner or later, someone is gonna get caught. Edited by - aplus on 1/1/2012 1:48:43 PM Click to expand I'm certainly not downplaying it. I said in an earlier reply I didn't recommend shooting outside California or NH. I just hadn't considered the issue PornLaw raised about the model release document itself being ruled void because it involved contracting for something that wasn't legal. I'm there! [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 6:12PM HollywoodBilderbergGroup wrote: And I appreciate that too. I didnt know about the model contract either. If that's the case I might have to register my business in New Hampshire. I really do appreciate that. Click to expand Its not where you form your entity, its where the contract is performed (ie. where the shoot occurs). And a sex crime attorney wont know about the legalities of shooting porn... [Link]
HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 6:33PM What about a Computer Sex Crimes Attorney? I'm really not sure who to ask, I'm pretty sure I can't afford your retainer and still keep the type of budget I need for quality movies. [Link]
Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 7:16PM ^ BS! You were talking about $175k to start a porn production company and you're not going to retain legal support?? [Link]
HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 8:20PM I'm sorry but I'm a professional, I don't get involved in nonsense. Please take your trolling elsewhere. Just trust that you'll be jacking off sooner rather than later. Edited by - hollywoodbilderberggroup on 1/1/2012 8:27:01 PM [Link]
Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 1:00AM This is a great thread! Edited by - Porn Scout on 1/2/2012 1:01:07 AM [Link]
mug glazer9 Member 59 Posts 1/12	Posted - Jan 3 2012 : 2:30PM One of the best discussions in months maybe years. HBG, you got some challenging work ahead, if you're serious. [Link]
HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 3 2012 : 4:26PM Yes I am. But I have a very good feeling that the outcum will be worth it all. [Link]
Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Jan 3 2012 : 5:39PM mug glazer9 wrote: One of the best discussions in months maybe years. Click to expand You're a new member with 1 post.....????? [Link]

HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 3 2012 : 6:27PM Don't hate [Link]
Mr Right Member 56 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jan 3 2012 : 6:34PM HollywoodBilderbergGroup wrote: Yes I am. But I have a very good feeling that the outcum will be worth it all. Click to expand LOL Winning internet debates is my favourite pastime [Link]
angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11	Posted - Jan 3 2012 : 6:54PM HBG..if you are for real and get it going, i would move over and work for you lol seriously ive done cinemaphotography on several short films, aswell as written several, but when i owned my video shop i was doing glamour photography as a 2nd job, loved it hope you pull it off would be good to see what porn is made by fan rather than people just wanting to scam money making the same shite over and over [Link]
Unicorn Member 156 Posts 4/04	Posted - Jan 6 2012 : 10:04AM Regarding my earlier rant 'WHAT IF THE RIGHT WINGERS GET IN? I'm just gonna leave this right here. http://news.yahoo.com/santorum-joins-bachmann-pledges-ban-porn-same-sex-214900881.html This brief article was written in July 2011 when everyone was like 'WHO THE FUCK IS SANTORUM?'. So they Googled it. Now the laughter's died down. It's not so funny anymore and it's getting less and less. He is a contender if if only via 'the last man standing' rule. And yes, He may just be. The.Last. Man. Standing. The Pizza Delivery boy got blown out by his dick. Which part of FUCK OFF did you not understand early on Herman? Bubba from Texas ain't getting the nom. Maybe in another 10 years when the typical IQ dips under 80 - we're not quite there yet. We've had enough Bubba's. The guy who likes to throw out 5 figure bets while acting folksy to the Masses ain't getting it. Yeah, sorry Willard, the Mormon thing is a real deal breaker. The biggest scumbag in the GOP whose name rhymes with MOOT? He's just evil and there's no amount of pinching your nose to get past it. That leaves Ron Paul and this guy. There's some other guy who hasn't fallen down yet but who gives a fuck? SO what do you think his chances are? That said I can't think of a candidate that is PRO-porn but as rule the Dems have always been about staying out of what people do in their bedrooms where the right wingers trying to seize control of the Republicans would seek to take away most of your liberties and if they COULD, stick all the non churchgoing damned to hell for eternity souls on that LOST island in the South Pacific. I'm just saying. Tuesday. November 2nd 2012 - wherever you are, go fucking vote. We keep talking about the 99% vs the 1% and it seems for the first time a LOT of diehard lifelong Republicans are waking up and realizing they are the donkey chasing the carrot on a stick being dangled in front of them. If it truly IS a numbers game, the 1% should consistently lose from now on but only if the 99% show UP. AND VOTE. Send it to all your industry bloggers - send it to Gene at Adult FYI, Dara, Luke - everyone. Get the word out. If you don't think they can resurrect the Meese Commission http://www.porn-report.com/ just wait and see. Edited by - unicorn on 1/6/2012 10:10:20 AM [Link]
Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99	Posted - Jan 6 2012 : 10:22AM ^ your vote counts a lot more if you participate in primary elections. Register Republican and vote for Ron Paul who would not spend a dime of federal money going after porn (or engaging in endless wars.) [Link]
mug glazer9 Member 59 Posts 1/12	Posted - Jan 7 2012 : 4:18AM Rod wrote: mug glazer9 wrote: One of the best discussions in months maybe years. Click to expand You're a new member with 1 post.....????? Click to expand Actually, I am mug Glazer but changed the name slightly because I made an error on my login and don'tfeel like trying to hunt the old one down. My old posts are in here under the old name. [Link]
Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Jan 7 2012 : 7:57AM mug glazer9 wrote: Actually, I am mug Glazer but changed the name slightly because I made an error on my login and don'tfeel like trying to hunt the old one down. My old posts are in here under the old name. Click to expand Welcome back.....just seemed funny to post 'best thread in a year' for your first post. Not hate as was suggested earlier, just an observation. [Link]
HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11	Posted - Jan 7 2012 : 11:53AM that's what y'all have to worry about in Iowa and Idaho, not over here in the Nation's Capitol or the Free State of Maryland. We're not really regressive over here, even the mayor of DC got locked up for protesting with the people (not in Occupy DC tho, i get it tho). i'm also not going to go around here flashing it off either. people who have shit always seem to attract the most flies [Link]