Wall to wall porn does nothing for me. I find it tedious. No offence to any of the stars or directors, I'm sure you have your fans. I think once you've seen two or three like that, you've seen them all.
I much prefer feature adult movies, with a storyline and with some smut! I have been watching some of the movies from the mid 1990s and they're really cool. Your thoughts please, adult fanz!
i think the early 2000 stuff was good. in the gauge era. the best feature stuff i saw was by VCA. of course, they also produced some dreadful stuff as well, so it wasn't all great.
i will admit that i love the fantasy of fiction. gonzo doesn't deliver that. but it rarely works. or, it rarely delivers what i want it to. which is usually plot related deviance. the feature usually just frames the standard sex scenes, instead of building the sex out of the scenarios.
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Posted - May 9 2007 : 9:31AM
Overall I agree but it depends somewhat on the story. At least in a feature everyone doesn't use the same piece of furniture. Ugh, Ick.
yeah, it depends on the story. but since i prefer classic porn i like a good story. i'm not into these super-productions like private millionaire or pirates. that was too much for me. a solid story like salieri or dorcel used to tell is enough imho...
I love the stories in Salieri movies, I don't even understand the language and I still love them. I've seen the Dorcel films translated at least. Although I think for the most part I've only seen Dorcel films with Laure Sanclair (sp???).....I like them though, it helps that the women are always much hotter than most girls in gonzo type stuff.
The movies where a beautiful Euro girl walks in a room, and two guys ravish her - and that's repeated in every scene - but with different models is boring to me.
Much of the stuff I see is that kind of material. I long for a movie with a funny plot. But there isn't much of it about. But thanks for your comments.
Normally I like movies with stories and content more. But if a girl/women is extremely attractive, then I dont mind. I would like to see more "real" movies with e.g. Nautica, but watching her "in action" is arousing me too.
As I watch more and more porn, I'm realizing that I'm really a feature fan.
I've been catching up on Jonathan Morgan's comedies lately. They are funny.
And I adore David Stanley. His stuff is quirky/funny. He's always insightful and emotionally real, sometimes melancholic and sometimes giddy. He's the bee's knees. I love him.
Interesting question. Except for compilation discs (i.e. "Best of [Performer X]" or "Never Enough Vol. 4") all of my porns have stories. Sometimes I think it's a distraction - who cares about the story, you want to see sex - but then when I watch the compilations it's like it gets to be sensory overload without some dialogue to space the scenes out and take a breather.
I remember a few years ago VH1 was showing a documentary about porn and how it was becoming "mainstream" again. They credited studios like Vivid. They had an interview with a fan who said, "I like adult films where it seems like what's in the movie could really happen to you."
Well I don't know about that. I've never been driving to work and seen Jenna Jameson hitchhiking, picked her up, let her stay in my house and then been rewarded by her with hot sex.
But I guess it's still more realistic than the old "bored housewife and the pool cleaner" setup.
Agreed. Although I often skip parts of the story, those movies have several things that make them more interesting. Better locations, better lighting, often bigger budget and more athmosphere.
Sex in a context is nice. Anyone else get real turned on by sex scenes in mainstream movies. I do. I watch loads on CelebTA.com. The quality script, acting (through the sex not just before) and direction can create such a an exciting and perverse context for sex that porn just can't manage to do. Sometimes i think if a mainstream director felt like it, he could make the best porno ever.
I'm kind of in between. I'm so bored with the current porn, so I've been revisiting some old school. I just wish the quality was a little better. Some of the story line drags on though. It's nice to see some un-groomed snatch and not every scene ending in a facial. Maybe i'm just getting too old, but I do like a decent story line, instead of the compilation approach/ mechanical get in to this position followed by this, now finish with this. Entertainment can be multi dimensional.
In reg porn, i'm into gonzo. the most story i'll accept are vignettes, NOT features. if i want story. i'll go for Hentai. FYI: hentai is the porn version of anime, anime being japanese animation.
I work in the adult industry and started in mainstream - kind of an ass-backwards approach, but since I'm such a fan of fine asses, it's working out - but few non-industry folk realize the difficulties inherent in creating story-driven porn. Most of these performers prefer to do gonzo since they are in-and-out (figuratively and literally) in a couple hours. If they have dialogue they are forced to hang around the set for the whole day (and miss the chance of the golden double-booking). Many are now requesting an additional 'modest' fee to do dialogue which of course raises the budget even more (and a dialogue sex film takes more time/money to produce in general). And then there is the fact that very few performers can act their way out of a paper bag. The last and final frustration is qualifying that your story will have any real continuity since performers still have a rather high flake-quotient and on any scheduled day your lead actress might decide to drive to Vegas. Still, taking into account all of these hazards, as a fan I prefer to watch sexy stories (as long as the sex is organic and stimulated by the plot, and not a nonsensical additive) and even prefer to struggle as a filmmaker to make plotted-porn. But with the ease, talent preference/ability and cost savings to make gonzo, it is no wonder why most directors/producers stick to they simple wall-to-wall and stay away from that third wall....
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Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 3:11PM
Normally, in a competitive market place, better product yields higher revenue (and profit). Either from more units sold or higher prices (or both). I guess that is not the case for porn flicks. From a content point of view (no pun intended) it seems the lower the cost and the lower the selling price the better. If such is the case, then it appears that porn has become a commodity, as in, all are pretty much the same.
Every commodity has better or worse product, especially with high demand. But producers aren't stupid and realize why go to the trouble of working harder and spending more bills when you can skate and make more back on a less expensive product. I prefer the story driven porno since it has the chance to heighten the sexual aura of the girls (who aren't always as sexy as they appear), granted the story is titillating and the scene is directed well-enough.
My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06
Posted - Jun 3 2007 : 3:30PM
Here are three paragraphs from that story -To me, it sounds a bit like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Different couches and fancier packaging? That should do it.
In the 1970s and 1980s, much porn was comedy based. Stars like Ron Jeremy and that. It's nice to watch these old films, shame the industry has sort of lost its way in this area.
I definitely agree with Terri_Zeek. I started watching porn when they were plot driven, although most of the plots were pretty ridiculous and the acting was so-so. There were performers like Ron Jeremy and Vanessa del Rio who had a comedic flair and the movies were alot of fun. I enjoy watching Wicked Pictures now because they are plot driven and have some pretty decent acting along with hot sex. I've never been a big fan of wall-to-wall sex.
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Posted - Jun 6 2007 : 11:16PM
The problem is most of the acting now is closer to so what than to so-so.
I have never seen a porn movie with a real story. Also feature movies mostly don't have a real story. If I want to see a movie with a story I don't watch a porn movie. When watching porn I always watch gonzo movies without story.
(I'm not a huge expert, so there's probably a lot I've missed but ... ) I don't mind some of the Private stuff.. But more because the locations. "A couch" gets real tiresome. Porn Wars is a big exception.. I saw that, not thinking it was some huge sci-fi movie, but just for the production value and hoping for a passable story. I couldn't get passed the HORRIBLE acting. I don't expect Oscar winners, and even someone that doesn't speak English isn't necessarily bad. But in that movie I couldn't even understand some of it, and some looked horribly bored. Now, I don't mind some other porn that's just sex, but then, only if I find the star VERY attractive (and it doesn't have some stuff I really dislike seeing). One of the best features I've seen so far is Neighbors. Now that I found genuinely funny and Stormy is gorgeous. Can't wait to check out some of her other movies.
I know beforehand this is going to sound lame, but after all my (mumble) years of watching porn, all I can say is that there are good story films and bad ones, and good gonzo and bad gonzo. Lame, maybe... but still true. I *LOVE* the best of the old story stuff - the stories were often silly, the "acting" occasionally atrocious, and the production values strictly from poverty. But they not only got you interested and sometimes made you laugh -- from time to time they were also Stone Hot. I think the setup for a scene - the identification of the characters as something more than interchangeable fuck-bots - makes the payoff MUCH better. New filmmakers have been catching onto this, too, I think - altporn is full of real Characters. At the same time, I also enjoy a select few of the plot-free productions. There are some talented people making these, nowadays. And the best of them, to me, are based on the same thing: getting a glimpse (however contrived it may be) of the REAL PEOPLE involved. (Hi Bella! Hi Joanna...) What I can't STAND, plot or not, is the by-the-numbers Fuck Film Drill (tease-oral-vag positions 1 thru 6-anal-popshot) of faceless clone dolls. "OK, NEXT clone doll, please." Attention Filmmakers: This is Bor-RING!!! And unfortunately, some people's idea of story porn is to interrupt the plot, stop the action -- and start the Fuck Film Drill. Oy. Talent will out, and lack of talent... constitutes the bulk of the adult market. Thank heaven for review sites like this one.