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fit18
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Posted - Apr 25 2022 : 8:27PM
I'm sharing a recent on-set experience, told via conversation,

Colleague: how was your shoot today?
Me: It wasn't good. I couldn't finish.
Colleague: What happened?
Me: I feel embarrassed. Maybe I was nervous. I couldn't stay hard. I couldn't feel her pussy.
Colleague: Maybe you were lidocained
Me: What?

Later

Colleague 2: Heard you had trouble today
Me: Yeah, my dick went limp
Colleague 2: You're getting old
Me: It just felt weird. The more I fucked her, the less I felt.
Colleague 2: Oh, you were lidocained.

Everything now made sense. Before this experience, I did not know what lidocaine was. For other newbs like me, it's a local anesthetic you can apply to the skin to numb and relax nerves. In porn, it is often used for anal scenes so the girls have an easier time, and some girls will use it on the pussy to dull the soreness from their vaginas being overworked. The more I fucked the girl, the more the medicine seeped into my skin, thereby causing me to lose my erection

Guys in anal porn scenes are able to maintain their erections even if lidocained, because almost every male talent injects - another bit of behind-the-scenes info I learned.

The lesson: if you are not injecting, ask the girl beforehand if she is using lidocaine or another topical anesthetic. I'm not going to name the girl and I don't blame her for using it. She was courteous and professional and probably thought I was injecting like everyone else.

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pat362
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Posted - Apr 25 2022 : 10:58PM
The strange thing about your story is that numbing agents for anal or vaginal penetration like lidocaine or benzocaine have been common for decades and are even recommended for men who have problems with premature ejaculation as it partially numbs the penis sensitivity permitting the man to stay hard for longer. The downside is that it makes it harder to ejaculate on command. I would say that his inability to retain an erection was coming from something else.

P.S: Not sure if you remember this but there was a huge controversy a few years ago involving AV/LP shoots because it was revealed that numbing agents were used on the women to ease the pain from anal penetration and that is a major no no because while it will ease the pain. It will also mask the possible damage being done during the penetration as the normal bodies reaction to pain will in effect be numbed and the performer will only know the extent of the damage once the numbing effect wear off.

Alizee
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Posted - Apr 25 2022 : 11:30PM
Injections? Like actual needles into the penis? That sounds awful.
fit18
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Posted - Apr 26 2022 : 12:02AM
Yes. Most guys now inject. The new thing is preloading simulated cum into the urethra of the penis
WillCle216
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Posted - Apr 26 2022 : 12:09AM
So, I guess if a guy can't keep wood during a scene you know he's not injecting shit in his dick.
Porn just looks more and more fake by the day
 
Alizee
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Posted - Apr 26 2022 : 2:09AM
Absolutely crazy. Now I know why male "talent" is scarce. I'm all for regular sized guys with incidental limp dick and tiny loads for the sake of realism.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 26 2022 : 1:19PM
I'm not afraid of needles, but I'd definitely be afraid of a needed down there...
leatherface
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Posted - Apr 26 2022 : 5:34PM
Aaaaand suddenly being a porn actor doesn't look that great as a job.
fit18
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Posted - Apr 26 2022 : 11:52PM
And we are not talking about old guys injecting. But young guys in their early twenties too, which really surprised me.
WillCle216
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Posted - Apr 27 2022 : 12:01AM
what happened to just using boner pills?
10000 days
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Posted - Apr 27 2022 : 11:46AM
There's a reason most of the elite performers call themselves athletes!

They are there to perform the sex acts that the market wants to see, not enjoy them!

10000 days
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Posted - Apr 27 2022 : 11:49AM
Yo how the fuck do you preload simulated cum into your urethra!!

Edited by - 10000 days on 4/27/2022 11:50:29 AM

leatherface
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Posted - Apr 27 2022 : 12:10PM
Yes, that's the great question, I mean I've seen people using stuff like soap as fake cum but it's not like you can inject everything you want in your body without having some bad reaction /infection/pain I guess.
fit18
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Posted - Apr 27 2022 : 12:26PM
There are many companies that manufacture fake semen.

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First time I saw it was decades ago in Japan.

Getting it into your urethra is exactly as horrible as you imagine: syringe or turkey baster

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blackdragontea
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Posted - Apr 27 2022 : 6:13PM
Isn't injection one of those things that everyone already knows? For a more detailed discussion, you can listen to this podcast, an interview with Porno Dan and Kiara Lord. I don't know how to timestamp this thing, so the relevant discussion starts at around 40th min. You can listen to the rest of it and learn quite a few things about porn. I learned how corporatized porn has become in the USA relative to Europe, and how much better this is for the female models because so much of the sleaze is getting stamped out.

Anyway, back to the inject, they claim more than half of the male talents do. Porno Dan mentioned he used pills (some version of viagra) but not injections, but this still required some "thought" on his part. In case this doesn't make sense to you, what he's trying to say is medically sound: viagra helps with the physical phenomenon of erection, but not arousal, which is a psychological phenomenon and normally precedes erection.

 
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Posted - Apr 28 2022 : 12:47PM
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Porno Dan isn't that hung, it may work for him , but those who are big or very big might need something different than viagra or cialis , first of all it can't be used too frequently you may have heart problems just for that to this add how long your blood stays stuck in your penis and you have another different problem , your body needs that blood it carries nutrients and oxygen to the cells and organs plus it takes out the trash so to speak namely venomous Carbon Dioxyde and other bioproducts resulting from cellular methabolism , if the blood stays in the dick for hours so do the venomous compounds in your cells and organs , or at least stay there for more time than necessary ant certainly more than safety would command. This would even be aggravated if the performer is a user ,that would mean more toxines to get rid of

If this happens now and then there's no problem but you can't do that on a dayly basis without consequences you can do that every day naturally though , but then in your real life sexuality you don't stay up for hours.

The bigger the penis the more the blood needed for an erection , the more the blood in there the less in the rest of your body

So viagra is not an option , caverjet would be better , so much less blood out of circulation

blackdragontea
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Posted - Apr 28 2022 : 4:49PM
^

This is not a pharmacology class, but since you went into some details here, we might as well go all the way here.

Both pills (cialis or viagra) and the injection work the same way: by dilating blood vessels. The difference is that the pills are absorbed throughout your body (though not equally), and you are more likely to have systemic side effects (e.g. heart problem), while the injection is absorbed more locally, and you are more likely to have local side effects (the effects you described due to reduced circulation in your penis, technically called priapism; this is in addition to the risk of that comes along with any kind of injection like bruising).

So the tldr version is this: it's a trade-off for the chronic users. Use pills, more risk of heart and blood pressure problem, less risk of your dick bleeding, rotting and falling off; use injections, it's the reverse.

fit18
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Posted - Apr 28 2022 : 7:06PM
^

Great summary.
Is it true too much viagra can also make you go blind?

blackdragontea
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Posted - Apr 28 2022 : 8:48PM
Not sure if you are joking If not, there is in fact something to this. The pills exert their effects by interaction with a specific type of structures on some cells. These structures (called receptors) also exist in the eye, so some people do report seeing abnormal colors (blue and green) after using the pills. However as far as I know there's no report of someone going blind.
Pr0nLover
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Posted - Apr 29 2022 : 10:42PM
Not so surprising. Porn sex just isn't like normal sex. It's a performance. Even if a guy is young I imagine that the novelty wears off fairly quickly and what was a super hot experience becomes work.
blackdragontea
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Posted - Apr 29 2022 : 11:17PM
^ It's not normal sex by a long shot, not even close. It literally isn't normal to sustain an erection over 30-40 minutes of sex and then ejaculate on demand. According to the National Institute of Health, the average time is 5-7 minutes.

For sex that lasts 30-40 minutes and and is even remotely realistic, watch girl/girl porn; which is ironic, considering all the contentions about girl/girl porn being "unrealistic."

WillCle216
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Posted - Apr 30 2022 : 3:28PM
Sex is more than fucking and some people last longer than 5 minutes. Sex for me lasts around a half-hour or 20 minutes. And that includes oral, kissing, and play around. If you just stuck it in and cum, you suck at sex.

Edited by - WillCle216 on 4/30/2022 3:31:00 PM

fit18
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Posted - Apr 30 2022 : 5:31PM
^

The moral of this tale is if you want to last ANY amount of time, don't put an anesthetic on you or your partner's genitals :)

WillCle216
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Posted - Apr 30 2022 : 6:54PM
word...
Molasseslime
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Posted - Apr 30 2022 : 9:04PM
Depressing statistic.

OP, that was quite informative. I like getting realistic glimpses into the industry.

 
look4a
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Posted - May 11 2022 : 6:14AM
There's a difference in how Viagra/Cialis work and alprostadil(injection). Viagra and Cialis are called PDE5 inhibitors, when you are sexually stimulated , nitric oxide is released and the allow more blood to flow into the penis , and also restrict blood flow out . The injection of alprostadil (usually called triple P , a mix of alprostadil, phentolamine and papaverine) is a vasodilator that opens blood vessels regardless of how stimulated you are( though it helps). I use it at times , it's really not a very dramatic injection . Needle is a 30 gauge , super small and it's like a quick pinch .

Lots of male pornstars inject , a few girls talk about how they'll disappear into the bathroom just before the shot starts , one good indication is if they are very hard as they get taken out at the beginning, no soft to hard .

Zingerbrook
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Posted - May 23 2022 : 9:23AM
Im surprised that this is a surprise here. Caverjevt etc have been used for years. Lidocaine.if male performer took a small dose of viagra, lidocaine could interfere. It happened to me once personally, and I was pissed off inside but gave a caring speech to the woman involved that lidocaine isn't a great idea.

Everyone is different. When I'm in situations where performance is important in a scheduled way, I'll sometimes take just a little cialis / viagra as insurance. But, what I've seen in porn I find personally horrible, almost unthinkable. But, that is true in other situations and professions, too.athletes, stunt people, military.lots.

But.and I mean this neutrality, but I'm not sure how to put this in neutral language.where are the public health crusaders of porn? You'd think they'd be all over saving these men from themselves, what with all this injecting. Many of the younger guys might not know better.

Zingerbrook
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Posted - May 23 2022 : 12:41PM
Oh.to further burst bubbles here, artificial saliva is common in some types of porn



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