^Probably not because you are still talking huge amounts of money. The girl is anything from 1200$ to at least 2000$ and each guy is about 700$ and it could be more. If we use the smaller amounts then we are talking about 3300$ for the performers and that's only one scene. Once you factor cost for all the other expenses then you are probably closer to 5000$. A gangbang is not likely to involve more than one or two extra guys so the difference in cost is not that much more than it is for an airtight scene.
I could certainly purchase it, but as pat said, money may still be an issue. There used to be a line called Airtight with plenty of 'Airtight' but it , along with the stuido that created it, metro, have gone the way of the dodo I'm afraid. Additionally, in my unscientific opinion, there seem to be fewer girls available for DP/DPP in the first place nowadays compared to the hey-day of that series Edited by - 4theheart on 5/26/2013 8:11:47 PM
^I was also thinking of the airtight series when I first read the original post and sadly them and the studio are long gone. I'm actually very curious to know if it's a lack of girls that is the problem or if maybe it's the amounts of money the studios are willing to pay for those types of scene that is the problem.
I should have included "or website" in the original post. If there are enough guys and financial resources to keep the interracial blowbangs going ... Maybe I'm just wishing in one hand and spitting in the other, but I wish someone could find a way to make it happen.
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Posted - May 28 2013 : 4:04PM
$700 per guy? Since when? I could have swore that guys like Tommy Gunn were getting about $200 a pop.
I don't have any real data for my number so I used the numbers Kink puts on their models page as reference. They don't actually mention the rate guys get for a b/g scene but they do mention the rates guys get for a b/b scene. I'm think that if two guys doing a gay scene can get as much as $600 to $1000 then a guy doing a b/g girl scene can make at least 700$.
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Posted - May 30 2013 : 10:06PM
I lifted this from any article that came out about a year ago. "For those who live the life, the reality is quite different. For one thing, the wages aren't much - $150 (£97) per scene. You can forget about pensions and health insurance" Article link is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18352421
That appears to be an UK report so maybe their prices are much lower. How much British porn is made on a regular basis? It can't be much because I'm only aware of a couple of studios that still shoot porn on a regular basis and at least one of these uses the same guy all the time. Lack of work tends to make it easier for studios to abuse the talent.
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Posted - May 31 2013 : 9:49PM
It wasn't about British Porn, it was an interview with Tommy Gunn.
^ There is a lot of bullshit in this article. For example it tries to blame Jon Dough's suicide death on the decline of the business? WTF? He died because of his addiction to drugs which is not mentioned at all in the article. The article also doesn't mention that Tommy Gunn used to be married to Rita Faltoyano who is now working as an escort in the UK. Yet another quick and dirty web article about porn. Nothing to see here.
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Posted - May 31 2013 : 9:58PM
That may or may not be true. The only reason I was referencing the article is that the rate he claims to be getting is a hell of a lot less than the rates posted earlier in the thread.
^ The $150 rate is what "mopes" typically got for doing a blowbang. I remember interview with Evan Stone saying his rate was $2000 per movie and he never changes it which is why he never got hired for gonzo videos. He's probably decreased it since then though. But that gives you an idea of how much a top male performer could make. I think the average for males used to be about $300 per scene. Regardless if you want to get an idea of what the current rates might be take a look at Kink.com's talent rates
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Did you read the article? It specifically says that when Theroux asked other people in porn they assumed Jon Dough's death was attributed to the decline in the industry. But when he investigated further, spoke to his widow he found out it wasn't that at all and was to do with drugs. Theroux says that's its interesting that people in the industry would automatically assume it was the case when it wasn't. Theroux is an excellent documentary maker and the documentary itself is well worth a watch. Particularly to anyone interested in porn.
If it really is about the money, just make fewer scenes and/or charge higher prices to compensate for the relative payroll differences. But, if it really is about the payroll, why are there not more solo scenes, which would have an even lower payroll cost than your typical b/g scene?
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Posted - Jun 2 2013 : 1:43PM
With all your "probablies" "mights" and "coulds" it's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. Kinks rates are on the high end not the norm, and if Stone's rate was $2000 and he wasn't getting hired, that would indicate to everyone that male talent is much much cheaper.
^Strange that you mention that Kink's rate are on the high end because I was always under the impression that they were pretty much the standard rates for the industry. If Kink is on the high end then no wonder so few people are shooting porn.
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Posted - Jun 2 2013 : 4:10PM
When I was referring to Kink being on the high end, I was referring to the notion that guys are making bank versus scraping by. Look at some of the rates on that page. If the female has a range of $5-$700 for a B/G, and male bottom in a tranny scene is getting $500, you can bet that a straight guy isn't getting $500 for a B/G scene.
There is some BS in the article but some truths as well like the escorting [that's a whole different subject that performers in porn aren't at all willing to talk about since the majority of female performers escort and don't want to ruin business for themselves], the pirating, and not being able to find a happy, HEALTHY relationship with someone. Edited by - MrWayneBrady on 6/3/2013 1:25:58 AM
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