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Killer John Member i love sucking balls scenes 216 Posts 4/13	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 7:24AM In 70s, there is no condom or pills, so how they shot porn? In 1970s during shoot of deep throat or "behind the Green Door", there is no condom, so how porn stars they control pregnancy or STD's? [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 7:41AM How do you figure that there weren't any birth control pills? Enovid, a birth control pill, was approved by the FDA in 1960. In addition there were IUDs for part of that period as well. The Lippes Loop was available as of 1962, and Copper7 was available sometime come the late 60s or early 70s. The IUDs left the market in the mid to late 70s, but Enovid was available until the late 80s. [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 8:32AM As for STDs, they didn't control those. You just caught whatever you caught. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 8:37AM ^ Well, they controlled them after the fact. I have read/listened to multiple interviews where they talk about catching whatever you caught and then just taking a pill to get rid of it. Does the OP understand that HIV/AIDS was not on the radar at that stage? And yes, the contraceptive pill existed. [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 9:19AM Treatment does not equal control. [Link]

Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 9:27AM ^ I was agreeing with you and adding more information. [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 10:19AM Okay, I accept that. I just wanted the statement to be clear, since it seems like nobody pays much attention to infections that are always "controlled" after the fact because there are no real measures in place to prevent them. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 10:20AM Oh, no no. I am totally in agreement. My comment was intended to be facetious. As in, they were devil may care about it - "I'll just pop a pill if/when I catch that." Then HIV came along... [Link]
JigglyBoobs Senior Member 1614 Posts 3/12	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 2:03PM Killer John wrote: In 70s, there is no condom or pills, so how they shot porn? In 1970s during shoot of deep throat or "behind the Green Door", there is no condom, so how porn stars they control pregnancy or STD's? Click to expand For crying out loud dude, can you appear more ignorant if you tried? The pill is in part responsible for sex becoming more spontaneous and less taboo since the 1960s. Condoms that bear some semblance to today's ones had existed decades before. They just weren't manufactured, advertised or sold is such high volumes. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 5:04PM Don't be an asshole. From reading the OP's post, the OP comes across as asking about movies from the 70s. I have yet to see one that features a condom, so your comment on them existing for decades before does little to help. [Link]
JigglyBoobs Senior Member 1614 Posts 3/12	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 7:35PM ^ If I'm an asshole for calling people out, I'll be damned. It read to me like a statement that condoms and the pill exist didn't in the 1970s, not like a statement that they weren't used in that period. Was there proof that nobody was on the pill in 1970s porn? [Link]
zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 9:30PM Killer John wrote: In 70s, there is no condom or pills, so how they shot porn? In 1970s during shoot of deep throat or "behind the Green Door", there is no condom, so how porn stars they control pregnancy or STD's? Click to expand Not sure if this is somebody punking us or if this guy may be a young naive kid? Well this may freak you out young man but porn was being produce way before the 1970s!! Going all the way back to silent movies!!! During 50s I think they called them "stag films", a term you've probably heard before. Think about it? Even before moving pictures they had porn shot on still photographs. Heck even in ancient times they had porn written on walls and etched into stone!!! Now birth control ... well the "pill" was released in 1960 I believe. Which soon led to the "sexual revolution" meaning women were now free to fuck as many guys as they wanted without worrying about getting pregnant. Not to mention other contraceptive devices which came later like the IUD. And if you watch any documentary about the 60s and 70s there was a lot of promiscuity. Which leads us to STDs or VD (i.e. veneral disease) as they called it back then. Back then they didn't have killer diseases like HIV. They did have incurable disease like herpes but it was rare I believe. Nobody even talked about herpes until the 1980s I believe. So any STDs pornstars could catch back then were curable. Furthermore, the pool of people willing to work as adult movie performers was very small. During the 70s and 80s you maybe had 50 people at most having sex on camera and they all pretty much knew each other. Even amateur porn didn't happen until the 80s with the creation of home video (VCRs) and camcorders. [Link]
earthwindfire Deactivated User 257 Posts 10/12	Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 11:19PM Killer John wrote: In 70s, there is no condom or pills, so how they shot porn? In 1970s during shoot of deep throat or "behind the Green Door", there is no condom, so how porn stars they control pregnancy or STD's? Click to expand as said, there were many contraceptives back then. It was likely just like today; Sti's get caught and they get treated at the doctor; there was not HIV going around at that time. And just like now, if there is a pregnancy from making porn, abortion is an option (right or wrong is not the debate, it is the reality) there was access to abortions even back then if you kept it under the radar. And a much smaller talent pool too; that makes a huge difference in terms of risk. Edited by - earthwindfire on 7/18/2014 11:20:23 PM [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 2:10AM ^ The Roe v. Wade decision of 1973 legalized abortion (better known as unborn baby murder) in the US. Before that there was always the back alley "butcher" using Lysol and a coat hanger to abort (this caused many deaths) or a legitimate doctor performing a D & C under the auspices of an appropriate diagnosis, many times a shady doctor would perform the D & C upon request and just make up the "appropriate" diagnosis to record in patient records and to cover his ass legally if he were "unfortunate" enough to be investigated by the authorities. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 9:36AM Flash wrote: I have yet to see one that features a condom Click to expand I can think of only one, and it is narratively functional - THE PASSIONS OF CAROL (1975). The last scene where she sees herself as a "Times Square hooker" she uses a condom. [Link]

LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 9:49AM Also their side works where exactly so side works , very few talents were full time escorts out of set , and they did far less scenes back then the main selling line for movies was in theatres , XXX rated theatres. In Europe Super 8 tapes were very expensive and was mostly made for short loops such as those of Color Climax, ten minutes long at best Some of the stars at CCC were escorts who did a couple flick only in early '70 they begun to hire professionals pornstars (meaning girls who didn't escort on the side) in late '70 early '80 only , some of their loops show a condom though I don't know how common they were , I wasn't there or WAAAY too young to bother [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 10:09AM Gore Gore Girl wrote: Flash wrote: I have yet to see one that features a condom Click to expand I can think of only one, and it is narratively functional - THE PASSIONS OF CAROL (1975). The last scene where she sees herself as a "Times Square hooker" she uses a condom. Click to expand You are right, I honestly didn't remember that but I looked back at my review and it is in there. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 10:12AM ^ I only remember because I wrote a long essay about that film and spent a good deal of time analyzing that scene in terms of the ways it made the proceedings grotesque (it is intended to warn Screwge of her possible future). The condom is just one way Costello makes the whole scene sterile, uncomfortable, and ugly. It's the ugliest condom I have ever seen in a porn film. Lol. Quite telling in terms of the thread subject. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 10:13AM Oh, but it is worth noting that after HIV/AIDS became known in the 1980s, several porn films were made where condoms were highlighted and sometimes eroticized. This was particularly true in gay porn, but it also occurred in straight. [Link]
Mojo Deactivated User 1223 Posts 9/03	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 10:29AM Up until about the early to mid 80s HIV/AIDS were considered a homosexual disease, but I believe it crossed over to heterosexuals due to bisexuals and unchecked blood transfusions. Edited by - Mojo on 7/19/2014 10:47:50 AM [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 10:55AM ^ HIV/AIDS was not known to be such until 1981, so your timeline is pretty off here, as is your theory. HIV/AIDS is not "a gay disease." [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 11:17AM Mojo wrote: Up until about the early to mid 80s HIV/AIDS were considered a homosexual disease, but I believe it crossed over to heterosexuals due to bisexuals and unchecked blood transfusions. Click to expand It is theorized that HIV may have been in humans since before the 1930s and it is also theorized that it originally entered humans either through hunters coming in contact with the blood of infected chimpanzees while hunting or through a polio vaccine. None of these theories would make it a "homosexual disease." Edited to add. The AIDS virus was identified in 1983. Edited by - flash on 7/19/2014 11:21:17 AM [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 11:33AM ^ As with most things of great magnitude, the dates are hard to pin down. Let's agree it was 1981-1983. 1982 was the year "AIDS" was first used, but that doesn't mean the disease was not acknowledged prior to that point (it went by a variety of different terms). [Link]
Mojo Deactivated User 1223 Posts 9/03	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 11:55AM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ HIV/AIDS was not known to be such until 1981, so your timeline is pretty off here, as is your theory. HIV/AIDS is not "a gay disease." Click to expand I'm using the name by which it's KNOWN AS NOW. And I'm not saying that it's "a gay disease", but rather that's what people thought AT THE TIME. People were under the mistaken belief that only homosexuals could catch it via intercourse, but they didn't take into account both bisexuals and blood transfusions. As for where it originally came from, I always heard that it probably came from people having intercourse with monkeys. [Link]
Blackie Member 935 Posts 3/14	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 12:01PM Nobody used rubbers in 1975. Unless you were banging hookers or lowlife, it was considered safe. Nobody heard of herpes or Aids. Even if you caught something, it was easily cured. Crabs were a bigger worry. [Link]

zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 12:02PM Should also mention that AIM (Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation) didn't even exist until 1998. Prior to AIM, there had been STD testing programs in lifestyle communities including Kerista Commune, Rajneeshpuram, More University. These approaches had mixed results and were less systematic and regular. What about today? CNN article Prevent STDs like a porn star states: Talent Testing Service, which does STD screenings for adult performers, routinely tests for HIV, chlamydia, and gonorrhea, according to Sixto Pacheco, president and CEO of the service. In addition, some performers opt for an additional panel of tests for hepatitis B, hepatitis C and syphilis. I've always wondered why they don't test for herpes also? Well article states: About one out of six people ages 14 through 49 have genital herpes simplex virus type 2, according to the CDC. Testing is controversial since the results are not always accurate or helpful. Dr. Bradley Stoner, associate professor of anthropology and medicine at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, and a spokesperson for ASHA, says the best strategy might be to get tested if you have recurrent lesions that could be herpes, or if you're starting a new relationship with someone who has herpes, since drugs can be given to your infected partner to decrease the chances you'll get the disease, too. "Other than that, I probably would not screen for herpes -- the waters are just too murky," Stoner says. This explains why most pornstars have high probability of getting herpes at some point. Now I'm not a doctor here so correct me if I'm wrong. I think a large percentage of U.S. population has herpes anyway but most people do not exhibit any symptoms at all. They may also have a particular strain that doesn't have symptoms like cold sores etc. I am surprised that its not required to test for hepatitis? [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 19 2014 : 12:17PM Mojo wrote: Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ HIV/AIDS was not known to be such until 1981, so your timeline is pretty off here, as is your theory. HIV/AIDS is not "a gay disease." Click to expand I'm using the name by which it's KNOWN AS NOW. And I'm not saying that it's "a gay disease", but rather that's what people thought AT THE TIME. People were under the mistaken belief that only homosexuals could catch it via intercourse, but they didn't take into account both bisexuals and blood transfusions. As for where it originally came from, I always heard that it probably came from people having intercourse with monkeys. Click to expand I too am referring to the name by which it's KNOWN AS NOW (seriously, why all the screaming?). I recognize that you were saying people thought (mistakenly) that it was a "gay disease" but to then go on to suggest that the reason straight people contracted the disease was via channels that exposed them to gay/bi people simultaneously suggests that it is a gay disease. Humans of all sexual orientations contracted the disease. It did not start with gay people. It is important to stress this. [Link]

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