The subject might be a little deceiving, but are incest movies completely off limits as far as subjects go? I haven't seen a whole lot of adult movies, but it seems as though that is the one subject I don't really see being produced today. I remember years ago seeing one, which might have been the original 'Taboo' from what I have read on the internet, but I don't think I have seen anything like it made within the last 20 years. It is hard to imagine there isn't a market out there given what sells these days.
Anyway, what do you all think or know about the subject?
I think that while there is a market for it, there are many in porn who do not want to tempt the government that way. I also think that many in porn feel they make plenty without it, considering the cost of lawyers. The RLD/PxP and 3rd Degree/Zero Tolerance groups seems to make plenty without it.
Really, it would be hard to do outside of a feature. And the feature companies don't go near extreme. The theme itself would be considered extreme. Also, I cannot imagine any experienced viewer dropping disbelief. After all, most of the women have been in quite a few scenes before.
Italian porn is plenty of that. Directors like Eros Cristaldi or Andy Casanova (Stupri and Incesti italiani series)are very much popular in that country.
Things I am more than happy to let European countries take the lead in.
In America, few distributors would want the legal hassle.
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Willie Mo Perv Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 14 2005 : 8:24AM
Someone composed a list of American-made family-sharin' flicks on RAME. These are movies with family-oriented themes. There are some individual scenes in the Young & Anal and the White Trash Whores series from JM Productions. Finally, there's also a movie Teenage Twins with sisters Brooke & Taylor Young, who do a g/g scene, the only "actual" scene I've heard of.
Most everything else are step-family scenes, which I assume does not meet your criteria.
To my knowledge the original Taboo(and later 4 part series) was a story about family members getting it on. Gloria Leonard played Tom Byron's mom in the series and it was kind of hot when they got it on. Perhaps an early take on the modern day MILF concept.
But real life performers doing it are rare. In an early Vanessa Del Rio movie entitled TIGRESSES: AND OTHER MANEATERS a pair of hirsute sisters called the Sloan Twins do each other as well as a black male. Pretty daring I guess for those days. But when you do an IMDb.com search for this movie, a multitude of scenes are deleted or condensed down and the Sloan sisters scenes are taken away altogether. With this particular movie it's incredible that any of the movie is left after all the deletions.
I guess 'true' incest is when the actual performers are blood related and have sex(on camera for us any way). John Bone's new Mother/Daughter series put out by Damaged Prods. have real life mothers & daughters but there's no sexual contact between mother & daughter. Anyway when you go back to the careers of Buck Adams & his real life sister Amber Lynn, they have never had sex on camera. I could stand corrected but it would be news to me if they did.
I just watched Tigresses, the Video-X-Pix version and I can assure you that the Sloan Twins scene is intact. Haven't checked on the fisting which is supposedly in one of the other scenes, but as far as I can tell there is nothing cut.
Jacco, knowing that the Sloans scene is intact is enough for me to consider the purchase of the Video-X-Pix dvd, more info about the fisting (cut / uncut ?) will be appreciated. Thanks in advance !
Bush's moral police would love to see an incest series made here in the US. It would give them the arsenal needed to prove why pornography is the root of all evil.
To my recollection, the fisting scene doesn't involve the Sloan twins, but involves Del Rio with another performer. Is this correct?
There have been quite a few sisters in porn, even working in the same scenes--including recently. But the Sloan and earlier Young twins are the best known examples where the girls have sex with each other--for other examples involving the Young twins, try Sweet Cakes , or Double Your Pleasure .
To answer the other part of your question, in the US, it appears to be strictly a no-no to have incest themes in films--sister/sister, brother/sister, father or uncle/daughter or niece, and so on--we assume for the reasons Croy states. Interestingly, Taboo is still in print (although not any of the spin offs, or am I wrong about that that?), with edits (and more recently perhaps without). So I guess they have made an exception with this classic. Even more peculiar is that, watching an edited copy, I found the things cut out had nothing to do with the incest theme! BUT, other films which were famous from that era, such as Baby Doll , or (My Heart Belongs to) Daddy , are completely MIA.
All of this gives me the feeling, that even if current twin sisters, such as Cherish & Cali Marie, were willing to do the dirty together, most companies (JM maybe excluded) would choose not to release that footage as real incest action. Exactly how any of this falls under the provisions of acts of "obscenity" I am not sure, but that's another topic alltogether.
Currently on my desk at work are Taboo III and IV, the complete American Taboo series and at home I have Taboo II, all on recent DVD's from American companies, so it looks like not everybody is afraid to publish those.
And the original Taboo with Kay Parker is a bestseller on our site, so I think we are going to list all of them.
As recently as a few years ago, the early Hustler's Barely Legal video titles had step relatives doing it in some vignettes. Not blood relatives though, but I think stepfathers and stepdaughters and stepbrothers and stepsisters are plenty taboo enough. The characters in the vignettes I mean, not the actual performers.
And Extrene Associates used to have incest vignettes, and they didn't even say much about the characters being step relatives and not blood relatives. Again, I mean the characters portrayed and not the actual performers. But that company has gotten into legal trouble before, haven't they? I don't know anything about it, or even if that business is still in business. I just know that I got Extreme Teen 26 in a Taylor Rain DVD value three pack, and in it Taylor has an encounter with her "Uncle." And earlier in the video there were other performers performing as brother and sister. And other encounters that would be highly illegal in real life such as psychiatrist and client. Or sex with an obviously retarded girl. I certainly wouldn't have gotten that video by itself or for full price. That Taylor Rain movie was made in 2002, but all companies may have completely shied away from the subject in the last 3 years out of real fears of obscenity charges. I'll agree with Asmodeus about Bush's people wishing there was more incest in American porn so they could use it as an additional pretext to go after the whole industry.
Step relatives is a meaningless thing. Really just two people brought together by circumstance. Easy to defend that in court. Also, not of enough interest to turn anybody on, while being offensive to the sensitive.
Yeah, but I'm saying that the Extreme title I have, unlike the old Hustler titles, certainly never said step anything. The implication, if not the explicit language of the dialogue, was very much that the characters were blood relative uncle and niece and brother and sister.
Theres a German movie featuring a pair of blonde twins that do the full on incestual lesbian act. The boxcover shows that they have a slight resemblance to a hotel heiress.
Did anyone notice the sisters in the last edition of "Bring um Young"? It was a pretty decent scene. One does anal and the other did A2OGM. The sisters aren't drop dead gorgeous but the scene was very good. The BTS stuff was great with them too. The director had to tell them to not get to crazy with eachother in not so many words. Apparently they do so regularly in there personal lives and have shared guys together on numerous occasians as well. I was suprised Anabolic was so low key about the whole thing. I guess they didn't want to attract too much attention.
Check out Rob Rotten's "Little Runaway." I can't remember if it was the step-father or the father, but it definitely felt like the father. I've done a four-way with the step-mother thing for Hustler. But, since they don't watch their movies, they probably have no idea. Yes, it's because of the legal hassles in America.
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Posted - Oct 16 2005 : 9:36PM
Jacco, the fisting is Vanessa Del Rio's scene at or near the end of the movie. A skinny little blonde puts a good part of her arm up Vanessa's snatch. I'd love to know if they kept that in there. I certainly have my doubts.
"Jacco, the fisting is Vanessa Del Rio's scene at or near the end of the movie. A skinny little blonde puts a good part of her arm up Vanessa's snatch. I'd love to know if they kept that in there. I certainly have my doubts."
Your doubts are justified. The Heather Young/Vanessa del Rio scene was indeed cut from the DVD, but the real-life lesbian incest was left intact.
Pretty fucked-up sense of priorities, eh?
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Willie Mo Perv Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 17 2005 : 5:38AM
That was step-daddy scene, Rachel Rotten was the one playing the "real" daughter. Music way too loud, female performer was as quiet as a mouse, not a good scene IMO.
There was a scene in Don't Tell Mommy 4 with Rebecca Bardoux and Gia Paloma, where mom and daughter do some carpet-munching in the midst of a 3-way. It's like watching a Bunday family orgy.
Another good incest theme movie is "Erotic Adventures of Lolita" which stars Bambi from the Taboo movies. EAoL is also from Video-X-Pix but I don't know if it's been included in the company's DVD library. Bambi was a sexy actress who reminds one of Katja Kassin. In EAoL Bambi(or Bambii) has an incest scene with her 'dad' and the guy cums on her lips in a maximum full screen 35 mm close-up. Very hot as her lips glistened with his cum.
CumOnHerFace.com has a scene in which identical twin sisters do some tongue kissing. While it is US website, I think the scene was actually shot in Argentina, and the girls are also Argentinian.
I've seen several European "actual" twin sister g/g scenes.
Was that the attraction for him or her youth? At any rate, they weren't really related and are both adults, so I don't really care. I just couldn't figure out why everybody always pointed out the step-daughter part. If she were just any young thing, people would still have been bitching.