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conquistador
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Posted - Nov 16 2007 : 12:52PM
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"It's an interesting way to cool your PC if your comfortable with 10,000 volts or so next to your CPU."
Dither
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Posted - Nov 16 2007 : 4:23PM
If you have a CRT there's 26,000 volts in it.
conquistador
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Posted - Nov 16 2007 : 10:14PM
True. But my monitor is is built in such a way that I can't actually touch any of the caps.
Dither
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Posted - Nov 17 2007 : 8:45AM
I've touched a CRT anode voltage cap. It gives a pretty good sting, but isn't dangerous under normal circumstances since it can't deliver any significant power. It would easily fry a CPU or other integrated circuit though.
Dither
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Posted - Nov 17 2007 : 8:48AM
A friend of mine made his own water cooling system, it was for a home studio and the pumps were in another room with tubes coming through the wall. It started leaking and the computer burned up.
 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Nov 18 2007 : 12:41AM
This is a cool idea. I dunno, though.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Nov 18 2007 : 7:11AM
I have been considering water cooling (ion cooling is out of my league). My computer is seriously loud.
I have had people who called me on the phone ask what the background noise was. It's just my computer's 10 fans.
Bornyo
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Posted - Nov 19 2007 : 4:36PM
You need all that cooling just to monitor ADT 24/7? I doubt Drew has that many fans on the physical servers themselves.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Nov 19 2007 : 4:42PM
Bornyo, I love video gaming. My current computer was built before I returned to posting at ADT, it wasn't designed around monitoring message boards. But instead to Run Oblivion flawlessly on high settings.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 3:52AM
^^^
Does your motherboard have heatpipe cooling, Conquistador?
conquistador
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 5:38AM
It does not. It only has passive cooling, I should have gone for the deluxe model.
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Edited by - conquistador on 11/20/2007 5:39:00 AM
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 3:03PM
Rather than spend the money and deal with the hassle of water cooling (to me, at least, it seems like a risky-to-one's-hardware, pain-in-the butt alternative -- but I'm not a gamer or a recreational overclocker), maybe it makes more sense simply to upgrade the board to one that has silent, heatpipe cooling.
But I'm sure that alternative has already occurred to you. Also, you're a gamer. Aside from gaming, do you like to see how much you can overclock your hardware just for kicks -- like building a souped-up car?
conquistador
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 3:52PM
@Bob: When I first put together my current machine I fussed around with over clocking lots. Only from the software side though, I don't feel too comfortable actually doing anything to my chips to up their voltages or whatever.
And for a while it was fun to geek around with tweaks and benchmarking. But I found that over clocking at a stable level doesn't really offer any significant improvement for me. And over clocking to a significant level isn't stable for long.
What I mean is that the extremely slight boost in frame rates I was getting was not enough for me to notice when I was playing games, only when benchmarking. Everything I want to play runs fine on my hardware (Haven't downloaded the Crysis demo yet) so there is no need to push it harder then it is designed for.
So yes, I do like over clocking but only from the standpoint of doing it just for the sake of seeing how far you can take things. I have never seen the benefits of over clocking in a practical sense because since my brain doesn't actively notice small jumps in frame rates once something runs smoothly the difference doesn't matter.
I predict I will try to do some practical over clocking as my hardware ages.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 4:25PM
I just helped a friend build a new machine about a month ago. He's OC'ing an air-cooled 2.66GHz C2D E6750 on a Gigabyte P35-DS3P motherboard at 3.33GHz and running DDR2 1066 memory at DDR2 1200 (a 25% increase for both components). The machine has been running stably, 24/7, for about three and a half weeks now. Plus, there are only 4 fans in the entire system -- all of them low-noise types.
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 5:15PM
^^^
GS -- What voltage settings did you use for the overclock? What range of temperatures do his CPU and motherboard zones run at with that set-up?
I have a 2.66 MHz C2D E6700, but on my Zalman air-cooled Intel D975XBX2 motherboard I can only achieve a stable overclock at 3.2 MHz.

I'm running DDR2 800 memory (Kingston ValueRam) overclocked to 962 MHz. Memory timings are 5-5-5-15.
My current voltages are:
CPU--1.40 volts
FSB--1.325 volts
MCH--1.55 volts
RAM--1.84 volts (stock voltage)
My system temps are the following, between idle and 75% stress-test load:
CPU-- 31-39C
Zone A-- 31-36C
Zone B-- 31-36C
Any thoughts on how I could overclock my CPU a bit higher without frying my system? Does the stumbling block lie with the lower speed of the RAM and/or the lower FSB that the motherboard and CPU run at?
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Edited by - bob on 11/20/2007 5:20:32 PM

 
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 5:43PM
Mabye I'm just a teensy weensy bit of a recreational (more like masturbatory) overclocker.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 6:09PM
I didn't do the OC'ing or benchmarking -- he did. I assembled the h/w and installed o/s & apps and shipped it to him (he's in MD). The machine has a Thermalright 120 Extreme heat sink with a Scythe fan. PS is a PCP&C Silencer 750 (serious overkill, but he plans to add an additional internal storage array later). HDs are all WD -- a 320 and a pair of 750s in RAID-1. Video is a fanless HIS/ATI 260 hex T/512 (he's photoshopping, not gaming). Lian-Li case with 120mm Scythe fans replacing their stock models.
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
Edited to add: There's also a Gigabyte iRAM drive with 4GB of DDR 400 which he uses for Photoshop's scratch files.
And, to answer your question, I really don't know -- I'm not an OC'er. I just build fancy, high-end, stock machines.
Edited by - GaySatyr on 11/20/2007 6:19:39 PM
GaySatyr
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Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 7:48PM
Thanks for the link, GS. I read Tom's Hardware but hadn't seen that particular article.
Now that I've browsed the article, I think the problem lies in part in the fact that the stepping on my E6700 is not as good as that on the E6750. I also think my Intel motherboard is more limited than other brands in its overclocking potential. So the stable overclock at 3.2 MHz that I have now is probably about as good as it's going to get.
Which is fine. I just won't have the fun of jerking off with all the tweaking anymore.
conquistador
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 8:22PM
I have gotten mine to be stable for around 36 hours at a time at 5.4Ghz. I am using an Intel CPU which is clocked for 3.4.
EDIT: forgot to add .
Edited by - conquistador on 11/20/2007 8:23:56 PM
Bornyo
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 9:57PM
Bob- here's a piece of advice and if followed you'll thank me for years:
Buy a 1965, 1966, 1967 or 1968 Mustang and work on "overclocking" it. It'll be the most fun you can have outside sex and even your wife and kids will enjoy it.
Drew can I get an "Amen"?
Drew Black
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 10:15PM
Amen.
67 Fastback style.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 11:07PM
I've always been partial to the 65's.
It really sounds like a good idea, Bornyo. The only problem is that, being an urban dweller, I don't have a whole lot of extra garage (or other) space to work with. Food for thought, though. I need stuff to mess around with besides my pud.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 11:26PM
A friend of mine has a '65 Mustang Shelby GT 350. He also has a '61 Jaguar XK-E. His "real" car is a Honda S2000: it works.
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
Bornyo
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Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 11:47PM
Mustangs are the perfect hobbyist car. Shelby's are nice (okay, they are beyond nice they are wood-inducing) but a 1965 Mustang can still be found for less than 5k around the country and parts are readily available to completely refurbish, restore, or overclock them.
Mustangs don't require much space, they don't eat much and after you change the coolant you can have wild sex in the backseat with your wife.
That's enough highjacking of the motherboard cooling thread.
 
GaySatyr
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Posted - Nov 21 2007 : 1:42AM
There really isn't much to cooling motherboards and chips: buy a board with heat pipes, buy a cpu heat sink with heat pipes, and buy fans. Water's out and ion cooling (and other exotic technologies) are just not practical.
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
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