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barrybrn
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1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 21 2004 : 2:24AM
I have been thinking about buying an iPod now for sometime. I would like to use it while I work out. Can anyone tell me how loud they go? I like to listen to my music pretty loud and was nervous that it won't go loud enough. I don't want to lose my hearing but don't want to strain to hear the music while working out. Thanks in advance to any responses.
Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Nov 21 2004 : 4:55PM
My Ipod has become a part of my body since I bought it. The volume is quite satisfactory especially to a discriminating metalhead like myself who already has damaged hearing.

Quaze

barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 21 2004 : 10:22PM
Thank you Mike Quasar fo the reply!
howie
Member

144 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 21 2004 : 10:58PM
I love my mini iPod. The volume can be enhanced with the in-ear headphones, which come in 3 sizes for a great fit. The cost of an iPod is great but it's the accessories that will add up. I have a docking station, the JBL subwoofer/speaker attachment and the in-ear headphones.
Wicker Man
Member

56 Posts
8/04
Posted - Nov 24 2004 : 8:21PM
I've had an ipod for almost three years now and I can't even imagine working out without it, it gets plenty loud as I listen to lots of old punk and metal when I'm at the gym. So don't ask anymore questions, RUN LIKE HELL AND GO GET ONE!!!

I'm about to buy myself a new 40GB version as a birthday present to myself. Mine is one of the original 5GB Ipods and the new ones are much better designed. I once even dropped it in a glass of water a couple of years ago and it still functions, though it took about three weeks for it to dry out. I wouldn't recommend doing that though.

 
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 9:22AM
Thanks Wickerman. I will be getting one soon(the 40gb one).
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 9:28AM
Can you load any mp3 files onto it or are you restricted to itunes purchased content?
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 9:40AM
any music files mp3, wav, etc. You can upload your own CD on to it. Holds like 15,000 songs.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 12:10PM
i've got both an ipod and iriver ihp-40 and you might want to check out the latter. it's got about 3 times the battery life, a more functional lcd remote on the cord, an optical-out to avoid another A/D conversion through a reciever and is seen by your computer as a usb hd so you can drag and drop folders into it without special software. it's also got vorbis support which is nice for those listening to music where the gaps of silence between tracks .aac and .mp3 are destructive to the overall experience.

if you need loud or have high-impedence headphones, you're going to need a headphone amp with either, the samuels emmelines are great and headroom.com makes some good inexpensive ones.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 12:20PM
so the limitation is you have to use Itunes to do the transfers?
howie
Member

144 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 2:56PM
Yes, that is correct. However, to import 1 CD into iTunes and then to your iPod takes no more than 5 minutes.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 3:54PM
Can you import mp3s created with other software like musicmatch?
cv
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7/03
Posted - Nov 25 2004 : 4:33PM
Sure, iPod/iTunes will accept any MP3 file; there's no DRM on that file format. That means that any software that generates MP3 files will render content that can be recognized by iTunes/iPod.

Currently, iPod/iTunes will not read WMA (Windows Media Audio) or ogg files. At this point, those interested should read some of the file compatability notes at Apple.com (duh).

Personally, I think that the LAME encoder with the --alt-preset standard flag, with a target bitrate of approximately 192Kbs (VBR) is the best compromise between audio quality and filesize.

I have iTunes' importing set to Apple's AAC compression scheme at 160Kbs. The audio quality is pretty good and the filesizes aren't too porky. This limits playback to iTunes and iPod, but I don't care, because that's all I use.

I can't listen to my iPod with its headphones at full volume; it's too loud. My guess is that extended listening to iPod at max volume will cause permanent long-term hearing loss. Is that loud enough for you?


Edited by - cv on 11/26/2004 4:06:11 PM

John-O 76
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84 Posts
3/03
Posted - Nov 26 2004 : 7:04PM
i have 2 ipods, one for myself and my wife. i love them cause they are simple as hell. the being said if you're teck savvy fuck the ipod yeah they are sexy but reliable is one thing they are not. the first one i bought for my wife shit out after three days and i have had several friends that have had theirs shit out on them after a little over a year of use. the ipods i have are both 3rd generatoin and the ones that i have seen shit out have been 3rd gen too. whats crapped out on them has been the batteries and the hard drives. honestly i do like them cause hell they are pretty enough that wife was willing to learn a new format, but if i was just buying them for myself i would definitely look into something else because for the price you can get a lot more out of an mp3 player. you really have to ask yourself if you like the way they look cause that's what you are buying.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Nov 27 2004 : 5:37AM
cv-what version of lame are you using? -aps has been overkill for me, you save a good chunk of space changing the lowpass using -preset standard -Y (you can drop the alt in 3.96.1 and future releases). depending on the music, -preset standard gets into the 220-30 range for averages, which is a lot of space when you're not in a quiet environment. i can't even abx -preset medium with a quiet room and quality cans(grado rs-1, i'm not a senn. guy)
 
cv
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7/03
Posted - Nov 27 2004 : 3:51PM
It looks like it's LAME 3.96.1.

I reiterate that I am using 160Kbps AAC. I've only played with LAME a few times, so I haven't done much more than fiddle around with it.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Nov 27 2004 : 11:32PM
I don't know why more people don't buy a pda instead of an ipod. The next step will be integrating a pda with a cell phone for a reasonable price.
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 12:18PM
Just a little update. I have had my iPod for a while now and just love it. It makes working out alot more fun with all that music to choose from. Plus it's nice not having to drag all my CDs in my car. I just use a radio transmitter and have all my iPod songs to play in the car also. Thanks again for everyone's replies on this subject.
agentspits
Member

49 Posts
4/04
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 10:44PM
i want to get one, i also heard they can be used as portable harddrives, so i thought that was pretty cool.

im currently trying for the free ipod offers, so we'll see how long it takes for me to get one lol

www.agentspits.com

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 9:01AM
Then buy one of the portable MP3 players. Main thing I've heard about iPod's is that they're great at first, but then the batteries die just like John-O said. If you buy one, buy the longest darn extended warranty you can. I have a friend who's a tech geek who can't even hold back from laughing out loud when somebody mentions an iPod due to their battery problems.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 9:50AM
That's a problem with any rechargeable device isn't it? The power source will eventually loose the ability to hold a charge and become unusable. (same as laptop batteries, cell phones, cordless phones, rechargeable batteries, etc)

The Mac may be more susceptible to this issue due to usage patterns? (recharging when there's still a charge in the battery, not charging from empty to full) Or is there a flaw in the design?

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 10:23AM
From what I heard it's a flaw in the design, and if lucky most people get 9 months before having to junk it or ship it back to get reworked. Yes, it's a problem with basically every rechargable battery, but from what I heard the iPod's is built into it so that you can't just toss the battery and buy a new one to stick in like you would with a laptop.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 10:27AM
ouch... Integration bad.
Michael Saint
Photographer

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1062 Posts
2/01
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 2:39PM
I have had my iPod for about a year now. So far I haven't had any problems with it as far as recharging goes but I have heard of that problem from the Apple dealers.

Rumor has it that updated design iPod (no release date yet) will have a replaceable battery since a lot of the iPod competetors are making theirs that way.

I prefer my iPod to my PDA for several reasons and most have nothing to do with music. This AEE I used it as a portable hard drive to back-up my pictures (I have 20G model) as well as using it to do some interviews as a digital voice recorder.

All in all a very handy little tool.

Oh and to solve the battery life problem I got a little battery pack for it that will let it run for about 10 hours before I have to change them.

snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - Jan 22 2005 : 4:19AM

I recently got a one that was passed down with light use and I'm not too thrilled. It's a third generation about a year old. Battery life is weak. It charges, but it doesn't last that long -- maybe 2-3 hours. Also, I find almost everything about it a pain. I know people rave about them all that time in reviews, but seriously, I am soooooo glad I didn't buy one. Everything for it is darn expensive too.

If you still go for one and you are a PC user, be sure to get 3rd party software to transfer files to/from the Ipod. Anapod Manger is working pretty well for me.

Go for one of the other similar jukeboxes out there. Don't believe the Ipod hype!

-- Snowman

 
Harri Patel
Senior Member

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3/03
Posted - Jan 22 2005 : 12:59PM
If you could use more volume . . .
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 23 2005 : 11:03PM
the reviewer in the linked article isn't a very knowledgable source of information-there's a number of serious mistakes he made. the most telling is that the hd590, since replaced by the far superior 595 is considered a LOW-impedence headphone. the 580, 600 and 650s sound like garbage without amplification-but the headphones in question can be more than adequately driven by the ipod output. he mentions the price as measure of quality but those were a short-lived model that goes for about 150 since they basically weren't on par with the 580-600 and the grado 225s were totally superior in the price range and didn't need amplification. so the review is done with equipment that actually shouldn't benefit from amplification and as headphones go are a lousy choice.

there's nothing revolutionary about that product--it may clip onto an ipod with "podgrip" technology but there aren't any meaningful specs that the company will list. that's a $5 solid-state amp from radio shack in some white plastic and you're much better off with one of the sub-200 portable amps like the meier audio porta corda or headroom.com's bithead. or you could just buy grados, shures, or ety's and not need an amp at all. sennheiser's decent headphones all need new cables and more than a 200-dollar amp to sound good--i've got grado rs-1s that are the same price as the senn 650's, cardas cable and decent amp and they're just better headphones that plug into portables and sound fine.

btw harri, this wasn't meant to be in any way hostile towards you, i just had problems with the author.

Wicker Man
Member

56 Posts
8/04
Posted - Feb 3 2005 : 5:00PM
Back in december I got an unexpected christmas bonus from work and used the cash to buy myself a new 40GB Ipod, it kicks ass! I have my entire music collection on it now. I went and sold my old 5GB model on ebay and got $150 for it, so overall the new one only ran me $250. My coworker spent his bonus on the new models that store pictures and have a color display, it is really nice! I may upgrade to it in a year or so when after the prices drop some.



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