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P-Knuckle
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309 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 17 2002 : 4:34PM
So I see this Diabolic title out there called 'Iron Maidens.' Belladonna, Judy Star, Calli Cox, Jewel DeNyle, Nikita Denise, Layla Jade, Caramel, Jewels Jade, Ashley vs. Lexington Steele.

Asking if this is a must buy is kinda a no-brainer.... it should be outstanding. Has anyone seen it and whats the field report from the battlefield on this asswar? 11 girls, 7 anal, lex vs. my favorite girls....

Whats the info on this?

Den
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911 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 12:04PM
P-Knuckle
Member

309 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 12:29PM
Not trying to be a jerk, but that review reads like A baseball game recap, I was kinda wondering what the action was like, not the statistics. Does anyone have a more intuative recap based on the visuals and not just a scorecard?

I understand you are providing a service with your 'reviews' which is very much appreciated... I was just hoping I could at least have an enthusiastic response (negative or postive) towards 'Iron Maidens.'

Thanks!

Pontus Maximus
Senior Member

Man of Steel, meet your match.
1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 2:24PM
P-Knuckle, here's Rog T. Pipe's review of Iron Maidens .

Review

Pontus

P-Knuckle
Member

309 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 3:29PM
Thanks for the review link; sounds like a keeper as expected.

I was wondering most about the bella/calli cox/caramel scene and his review capped it perferto.

 
Hardz
Member

Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 20 2002 : 10:59AM
I really hate reading reviews.

Are the scenes well lit (can't stand poor dark lighting) and do we actually get to see initial penetration shots (we are talking AnaDiabolic after all ) ?

rjk13
Member

peace, love and revolution
321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 20 2002 : 1:11PM
Had a real problem with the music in this video. Loud, repetitive, incessant. Lex must have told some of the girls to scream really loud or the guys wont be able to hear you over the music. He has Judy Starr and Nikita Denise speak French in their scene but they might have all been speaking a foreign language for all I know.

Bella looked really cool though, smiling, while she was taking it up the butt.

snowden porn
Member

London
648 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 20 2002 : 3:09PM
^^^^cool news about Bella! Bad news about the loud music (weird cos Dia/Ana are usually pretty good with the Audio aspects).

What about Ashley's scene? Did Lex give her a good going over?

rjk13
Member

peace, love and revolution
321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 20 2002 : 4:23PM
Ashley's scene was with Layla Jade who tends to dominate her 2 girl scenes. Ashley looks great though and takes a real good pounding. I cant believe how much she reminds me of Roxanne Hall who was another real cute British slut. Ashleys little titties drive me crazy.
Darth-Morpheous
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1701 Posts
3/02
Posted - Oct 20 2002 : 4:25PM
I thought it was great! Maybe the music was alittle overdone but overall it was a great DVD. Just look at the cast.
rjk13
Member

peace, love and revolution
321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 20 2002 : 6:51PM
Actually I thought the cast was soso. Jewels Jade seemed desperate to keep up with the other Jewels overthetop performance. Layla Jade has lost her appeal for me since the boobjob. Obssession and especially Tommy Rose were downright dull.

Judi Starr has never looked prettier. I guess it was different makeup but I didnt even recognize her at first. And her totally bald pussy is always outstanding.

Any movie with Bella gets lots of extra credit but I prefer her without other girls, shes just too good.

Hardz
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Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 21 2002 : 1:37AM
What about the bloody lighting and do we get to see any penetration shots (or is it just face shot-pussy shot-face shot -up the ass shot ) ????????
rjk13
Member

peace, love and revolution
321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 21 2002 : 3:43AM
Nothing special about the lighting I can report. You can see everybody clearly but I dont think they used any extra lighting to make the actors look better. Typical porn stuff.

As far as I can remember, penetrations had already begun with each new position, there are no transitions in between. But Lex pulls out alot and repenetrates.

Hope that helps.

Hardz
Member

Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 21 2002 : 8:25AM
This is what I hate most about AnaDiabolic.

For fuck sake, this is gonzo !!!!!!!!!

I need to see the transitions and why the hell do they edit out the initial penetrations ?

(If anybody doesn't want to see this they can just use the FF button on the remote !!! )


I always feel cheated by AnaDiabolic because they never release a product that fully realizes its potential.

They have the atitude that "you will only see what we want you to see and nothing more !"

Edited by - Hardz on 10/21/2002 8:26:14 AM

DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Oct 21 2002 : 8:29AM
Just out of curiosity Hardz, why do you hate reading reviews?

DenverDon

 
snowden porn
Member

London
648 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 21 2002 : 9:24AM
@Hardz

You are so right! We're missing out on the good stuff

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 1:45AM
I'm taking a quote from Rog regarding Iron Maidens. " The technical end of the movie is taken care of perfectly. All of the scenes are well lit, well shot and perfectly edited".

If transitions are smooth in a timely fashion they're in.
If not they're out. As far as penetrations go once you
do the initial vag pen then the inital anal pen then the
initial doubles it all becomes a department of
redundancy department doesn't it. More fuck for your buck
is the motto not more dead space for your non strokable
enjoyment. Strokers unite do you want more fucking or
people walking around getting it together? I for one
hate to waste valuable strokers time and money.

Cal
Somewhere thinking about the wierdness of it all

Hardz
Member

Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 5:58AM
They tend to spoil the adventure.

Some reviews go on forever (where these people find the time to write so much is a mystery to me ).

All I need to know in a review is :

- How many anal scenes ?

- Any good gapes ?

- Any Gagging ?

You get the idea, I like to know about the mechanics of the production.

Cal444 wrote

Firstly, you guys just don't show these first penetrations.

I'll give you an example of what I mean.
This is your typical AnaDiabolic editing method :

Girl comes in wearing something sexy (if we're lucky).......guy starts to talk to her and feel her up.........BANG! the girl is totally naked and has a cock up her ass (what the fuck happened in between ???..............then we get 20 second shots (in close up ) of the genitals........20 second shots of the girls face and back to the genitals (virtually no wide shots or camera pans )

This is just bullshit.
If you want to know how to edit a consistent movie, watch any of Jules Jordan or Christophe Clark Evil Angel releases.

(When was the last time someone complained about their editing style [they must be doing it right]?)

Secondly,

More fuck for your buck implies that there is variation in your style, but this just isn't true. Your productions feel like my dvd A-B repeat button is stuck, because you constantly show the same close up shots and very little camera movement. It's just boring.

I and most of the people in this forum should agree that we want to see the girl move from one position to another (you know, she gets off the cock, moves to a different position and starts fucking again). You get the idea right ????????????

A waste of my time and money is to buy an AnaDiabolic dvd that's edited like a bloody movie trailer (there are a hell of a lot of them too).

A dual layer dvd can hold a lot of movie for your 'buck', so why not give us the choice to FF stuff you don't want us to see ?


Edited by - Hardz on 10/22/2002 6:01:37 AM

snowden porn
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London
648 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 7:54AM
Hardz man - you fucking rock!
DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 10:36AM
Hardz,

Thanks for answering why you hate reading reviews.

I may not agree with your reasons and what you want, but you gave a specific and detailed enough answer.

I like reading them when they have enough details about the movie, and what the reviewer liked and didn't like to help me make a decision on whether to buy or not. I hate purchasing one only to find out it was total crap. The reviews help me with that.

Oh well, at least we both still watch them.

DenverDon

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 1:07PM
I've got 2:20 to fill with substantially more footage
than the space alloted. Given the choice between filling
the time with sex or transitions I'm going for sex every time if you don't understand that then that's that. I stand
behind my editing decisions 100%. I'd love to see some of your work so I could critique your editing style. At least
I'm out there for all to see, can you say the same?

Very little camera movement what are you talking about?
Our camera guys rock the house! You must be talking about
2 cameras as opposed to one camera you obviously don't
like 2 camera shoots, well I deal with what the director
gives me if that happens to be 2 cameras then it's 2
cameras, whatever.

I give all the initial penetrations I get. Aside from the
department of redundancy department ones, just like this
conversation is becoming we've been through this before
I'm done with it. I can't do more than that.

Cal
Somewhere wondering what movies this guy is watching


Edited by - cal444 on 10/22/2002 1:12:03 PM

P-Knuckle
Member

309 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 1:26PM
Cal444, thanks for being involved in the forum, if you note my intial question, its-

'Iron Maidens? Whats the word on it?'

Somewhere down the posts this trickled into a conversation about something else. I was just curious what the buzz on the title is...and being that I have seen the title now, I am quite happy with it. Seeing the penetrations and transistions is not that important to me, I care about the chicks involved and the fucking (imagine that?)

Hardz, when you make a statement like this-

'I and most of the people in this forum should agree...'

Why should we agree? This is porn, people have strong reactions and personal convictions about everything. I don't agree with you nor should I be asked to. You don't have to agree with me. But flaming Cal when he is presenting information does little to make this a forum where people WHO ACTUALLY ARE IN THE TRENCHES AND WORK IN THE PORN INDUSTRY can be comfortable and explain what they do.

Hardz, have you seen 'Iron Maidens?' If you don't like anabolic/diabolic movies, and if you haven't seen this movie, than whats your answer to the question? You already have your opinion formed; I am curious if you have even seen this movie, which is what the 'bloody' post is about in the first place. Can you respond to the actual question asked or would you prefer to continually move the discussion away from the intial question even further?

Please, consider making a new topic to discuss your issues with diabolic/anabolic editing, if this is your primary concern. Mine is about trying to get back to talking about Iron Maidens, which I think was pretty stellar and the Calli Cox, Caramel, Bella vs Lex scene was excellent...

Edited by - P-Knuckle on 10/22/2002 1:29:20 PM

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 3:25PM
P-Knuckle

Glad you enjoyed it. I thought Lex did a great job
of casting and performing in it.

Cal
Somewhere working on World Sex Tour

Blackshade
Member

66 Posts
8/02
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 5:03PM
Just for the sake of objectivity I went back and viewed my copy of Iron Maidens. The initial penetration shots are there, the only one that was clearly missed is the Ashley Long initial anal but that was one of 14 possible IP shots counting anal. I think the frustration of some may be that you might only get a second or two before the IP shot when you are coming out of a transition so a viewer might not know what happen before the transition. Speaking soley for myself I doesn't bother me but I know I am not the end all to be all for all porn fans.
cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 22 2002 : 5:10PM
I didn't have that. Oh, as an after thought, I did a
dubmaster of Iron Maidens this afternoon and the music was
jusy enough background and the moans and groans were just
enough foreground. I.M.H.O

Cal
Somewhere looking for initial pens

Edited by - cal444 on 10/23/2002 4:14:21 AM

 
rjk13
Member

peace, love and revolution
321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 23 2002 : 5:11AM
To paraphrase Hitchcock " Ingrid, its only a porno."

Lots of sturm and drang over a movie that will be forgotten in a few months when some starlet learns how to pack 2 dicks in every orifice at the same time.

Although for the life of me I can't understand how anybody would want to listen to that awful music, no matter what the volume, more than once. I dont understand why they use music at all. Even when its bearable, it doesnt add anything to the experience. The moans and the groans are the only music I want to hear.


Edited by - rjk13 on 10/23/2002 5:11:47 AM

Edited by - rjk13 on 10/23/2002 5:31:34 AM

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 23 2002 : 9:48AM
I can understand both schools of thought on the music
issue and may have a solution either or, we'll see. You'd
probably be suprised where some of the music originates.
Personally I think Toby the Viking does an excellent job
of keeping it fresh never repeating rifts. He's in a tough
position having to come up with 23 minute tunes 6 times
a flixxx. I don't envy that job.

Cal
Somewhere doing the in out thing

rjk13
Member

peace, love and revolution
321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 23 2002 : 11:08AM
Cal

Thanks for your responses and interest in what the fans are thinking. You obviously care alot about what you do. You cant please everyone.

rjk13

Edited by - rjk13 on 10/23/2002 1:01:19 PM

Hardz
Member

Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 23 2002 : 4:39PM
Thanks Snowden.
The functionality of DVD can be used to it's fullest potential because you are no longer restricted to the time confines of VHS.
AnaDiabolic dvds are double sided, so why not use side B for 'EXTRA FOOTAGE NOT AVAILABLE ON VHS ' ?

As for this dvd...

Belladonna = woody = $ale

I'll check it out soon.

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 23 2002 : 6:25PM
Since you opened with

"Hardz you rock" I'll counter with, Rog
The technical end of the movie is taken care of perfectly. All of the scenes are well lit, well shot and perfectly edited ".


Hardz you are one surley dude, lighten up, lifes good.
We've made some adjustments on the GBG 34 simultanious
release. You'll start to see extras on the B side.
Hopefully you'll find them amusing. We'll see though,
your a pretty tough customer. It's a two camera shoot
but I made sure to leave some extra long shots so you
could better work it. You know why I did this? Cuz it's
all for you, bro. Please check out Iron Maidens it's up to
todays standards. By the way that simultanious release
is next Monday! Hold on to your hats!!!!!

Cal
Somewhere thinking about and working for Hardz

Edited by - cal444 on 10/23/2002 6:25:59 PM

Edited by - cal444 on 10/23/2002 6:31:27 PM

Edited by - cal444 on 10/23/2002 8:53:25 PM

Hardz
Member

Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 24 2002 : 12:18AM
Cal, I love you and want to have your baby

seriously, thanx for listening and as for this....

seriously, thanx for listening and as for this....

seriously, thanx for listening and as for this....

seriously, thanx for listening and as for this.... ......come to daddy baby !!!!!!!!

andy_red
Member

20 Posts
4/03
Posted - Apr 17 2003 : 5:07PM
Iron Maidens is great! Nice scene with Calli =)



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