This is bugging me for a while. I often encounter on their website incredibly hot girls who I wish they become a frequent apparition in the biz, but it seems that a tremendous percent (up to 90%) of them are no names that I haven't and won't ever see again anywhere else. How is this possible? How do they make their bookings? Is it possible that so many girls want to shoot only once in their lifetime then back off? Are these guys doing something that makes girls leave on the back door and never look back? What the hell is going on? It's very strange up to the point that many of these girls accept doing anal or creampie on their videos and then never again. That is not the profile of a one timer. You can almost think that after the shoot they kill them. I'm joking, of course. These are just a few examples: Charley. Made her a topic here. Tifini. Also a topic here. Vedrana I really want to find out what's behind all this.
^I'm willing to accept that the guy is probably a scumbag (at least that's what I've read) but you lose me when you say that he cons softcore models into doing hardcore. I'm a past member of his sites so I know they type of porn he does and although the language he uses to talk about the performer on his site is reprehensible. I have a really hard time believing that those sweet innocent softcore models were all conned into taking this guys dick in their ass. I'm not saying that some weren't but 34 out of the last 40 models all did anal with this guy. Conned into having sex I might believe but anal requires preparation and therefore the women had to know what was going to happen and were okay with it. Now if you mean that he conned them in the sense that they knew what was going to happen but were hoping that it would turn into a lucrative porn career than that would be something to get worked up about but if that is the case than how much of the problem is on the girls side? Shouldn't some serious red lights come on when a guy wants to fuck you in the ass to help your career? Especially since he shoots in Arizona which is far from California and therefore those women would have to be willing to move to Cali to have any chances of having a porn career.
^ When people say "con", it's probably more like he spins the story that we've already heard that he spun to the Arizona State chick, that it will only be on the members section of his website, that no one they know will ever see it, yada yada yada. Basically that he tells them whatever they want to hear just to get them to shoot for the site. And while it's easy to say that the girls should be smarter than that and realize that he's spouting bullshit, the vast majority of people have no idea how the porn industry works and wouldn't actually know that. Girls Do Porn is a very, very similar site, but has a much better percentage of the girls that end up on it getting into porn for real (if only for a little while).
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 1 2015 : 10:09PM
I'm sure the 'con softcore models into hardcore' is just a bullshit scenerio like you see on Bang Bus and Fake Taxi. Amusing when some anti-porn activists take these transparently phoney scenes seriously.
It's not that they are taking the "premise" of the site seriously... that the models are not being paid, told they are making an "audition" video, etc. That part of it is obviously fake. In this case, and it's the same story with girlsdoporn, they are trying to convince the models that no one will ever find out, which is of course, a lie.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 1 2015 : 10:32PM
^ Is this a posture he takes on the site? Still seems unlikely, probably just part of the salemanship to those who want to buy into that fantasy. Although the overt appeal to some of the subscribers misogyny is certainly scummy. Just one of the reasons I dislike Bang Bus and their ilk.
It is interesting that so many of them just disappear afterwards, and even give up their on-camera anal virginity for a steal. Those buttholes are too clean to be spur of the moment. Methinks what actually happens isn't all that different from the fake set-ups. The girls probably do think nobody will see them, and don't know how the industry actually works. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few had regrets and didn't want their scenes posted but didn't take a close enough look at the contracts they signed and just decide to cut their losses.
No, this is coming from the models themselves. Some don't believe them but there's a reason there are so many one timers on those sites. The stories are similar... they are lured in by modeling ads and promises of good pay, and then told what they have to do, then assured that the videos are behind a pay wall or will only be released on DVD in another country, etc. Those sites target one timers, girls who wouldn't normally do porn. The girls can probably be accused of being naive and some people probably are happy that they are being convinced through deceit to do a porn video but the second part of the story is also familiar, people they know find out and their lives are torn apart. Personally I think models should know exactly what they are getting into, and the people making porn should be honest with them... most porn models generally know what they are getting into and that people they know will find out. These sites are specifically trying to target girls that don't. Edited by - RobinWood on 12/1/2015 11:01:15 PM Edited by - RobinWood on 12/1/2015 11:02:06 PM
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Posted - Dec 2 2015 : 5:03AM
Hahahaha so true!! It's all fake and staged! Has to be as the model surely signs a consent first saying she's aware of what she's doing. So funny when the activists argue otherwise.
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Posted - Dec 2 2015 : 5:34AM
Yep. Common sense would suggest that the reason a girl in Arizona isnt working in LA is a based on her location.
It might have been different some 10 years ago when BRCC and similar sites first sprung up, but in this day and age, I think it would take a spectacularly naive or ill-informed person to believe that "nobody's ever gonna find out you shot porn". Some one-and-doners might get lucky to fly under the radar, but generally because of file-sharing and tube sites, the number of people who'll end up seeing a scene is much greater than just the number who subscribe to the site it's released on, so the odds are always against keeping it secret. That being said, there are frequent stories out of Eastern Europe where unsuspecting girls are apparently still tricked with "the scene won't be available in [country where she's from], so your friends and family won't find out". I don't know if it's still the case, but there were/are some e.g. Czech-produced sites that aren't available to access in the Czech Republic, so such a claim wasn't entirely a lie, but of course "thanks" to file-sharing those scenes will end up seen by local people anyway.
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Posted - Dec 2 2015 : 5:21PM
It occurs to me that there are different levels of commitment at play here. It's one thing for a girl to take a one-time shot and do a porn scene (quite possibly for some decent money when she needs it and/or just plain old curiosity). I don't think that social stigma, at least to younger people, is anywhere near what it once was. However, it's an altogether different level of commitment to decide to make a career out of it. Could also be that, even if a girl decides she'd like to pursue porn further, she can't get an agent and/or she gets offered very little or no work, quite possibly for far less money than she thought was available. Everybody doesn't get offered "The Standard Rich and Famous Contract"
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Posted - Dec 3 2015 : 1:27AM
Try watching facefucking with duke skywalker. How can any girl wanna continue inporn after one of these scenes
brcc is an interesting case its definitely not 100% real as it appears but it is also not as fake as some people are suggesting much of it is unplanned like the anal and some of the creampies etc. you see a lot of genuine reaction from the girls unless you believe that somehow this guy finds the worlds best actresses every week
Who are these so called "activists" who actually buy the premise of this site (or any casting/pick up site)? Methinks you've made them up. The premise here, that the girls are not getting paid, is 100% fake. The misogyny, the exploitation, the deceit and manipulation... that stuff is quite real.
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Posted - Dec 3 2015 : 1:30PM
^ its called acting. They are selling a fantasy. Not only are these girls getting paid but they are well aware of what they must do for the money. From the scenes ive seen on that site there is no force, aggression, whatever else you might associate with taking advantage of a helpless, unwilling, innocent little girl misguided by the evil old man. Stop thinking these girls are something they are not.
Why would he need to make them up when the last sentence of your very post proves such people exist, namely at minimum you? I'm reminded of that one guy on here who seriously claimed that Myveryfirsttime.com shows what shooting anal scenes "is really like" (even though it's just as acted as all the other first anal sites, just with a different "storyline"), simply because it conformed to what he already thought it must be like, regardless of any evidence.
Does watching porn completely decimate ones ability to comprehend the written word? Above two posters, if your intellect is slightly above that of an average bag of rocks, Just google the name "Eric Whittaker" and "Backroom", so as much reading as you are capable of, then get back to me. If not, well, you're hopeless.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 3 2015 : 11:28PM
The anti-porn writer and activist Robert Jenkins wrote about Bang Bus as if the scenes were real, that's what I was referring to.
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Posted - Dec 4 2015 : 12:04AM
No need to be nasty. Just realize these girls arent as innocent as you think. Maybe for your fantasies you want to pretend these are all innocent virgin woman but unfortunately they arent. I can understand that fantasy dude... Good luck